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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2019 19:49:43 GMT -6
The lunar year is 355 days...not 360. The ancients adjusted the lunar year to the solar year with intercalated months, ie Adar 2, per a 19 year metonic cycle, in which extra months were added for 7 of the 19 year cycle. There is no such thing as a 360 day lunar year.....
The Jews followed a lunar calendar, but even they corrected their calendar to match the solar....it is a dead end in my opinion to get lost in a swamp of lunar vs solar....the King of the Universe had a reason for not matching the lunar and solar calendars...He could have, but He didn't.
The reality is, we have both....the 0.2422 fraction pertains to the solar year, not the lunar
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Post by Natalie on Jun 7, 2019 21:03:31 GMT -6
@sam , drove a few miles outside of town and nothing is planted, nothing plowed, no one working. It's a sad sight.
This should be corn not yellow flowers:
Nat, is it possible this is canola (rapeseed)? or a sunflower or some other broadleaf rotation to corn? often soybean (legume/broadleaf) is rotated with corn as corn being a grass depletes the soil of nitrogen, among other things. it looks cultivated. Also, corn stockpiles/or canola demand may have warranted the farmer to change crops.. also, I did a google search found this reason for late planting has to do with wet conditions, not drought. "Wet conditions in much of the Corn Belt continue to hamper corn planting progress this spring. The USDA’s most recent weekly Crop Progress report indicated that only 15 percent of the corn acreage in 18 major producing states was planted as of April 28, compared to a five-year average of 25 percent. " from the Illinois farmerdocdaily.. The reason I say this is because last year I thought there was "trouble" with the apple trees in our area. Of course my brain says, END TIMES!!! Turns out, it was late frost while the trees were budding their leaves and the leaves suffered a kill. This year they seem to have rallied. We have been colder and wetter since 2006. We have not had the long hot summer like we did in the early 2000's.. We have had pretty brutal seriously cold winters LIKE THEY USED TO HAVE.. I live in the weather and manage pastures, so I KNOW of what I speak here. Things are cycles, ebbs and flows and no man-made computer model can predict 5 days out let alone 12 years or even 20...my two cents on the matter. No, this is butterweed. This field happened to have the most of it of the fields I saw. I wish I would have taken my good camera with me. This field still had the stalks from last year. Nothing had been done to it. Yes, the fields have all been too wet to plant.
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Post by yardstick on Jun 8, 2019 10:43:10 GMT -6
@sam , drove a few miles outside of town and nothing is planted, nothing plowed, no one working. It's a sad sight.
This should be corn not yellow flowers:
Nat, is it possible this is canola (rapeseed)? or a sunflower or some other broadleaf rotation to corn? often soybean (legume/broadleaf) is rotated with corn as corn being a grass depletes the soil of nitrogen, among other things. it looks cultivated. Also, corn stockpiles/or canola demand may have warranted the farmer to change crops.. also, I did a google search found this reason for late planting has to do with wet conditions, not drought. "Wet conditions in much of the Corn Belt continue to hamper corn planting progress this spring. The USDA’s most recent weekly Crop Progress report indicated that only 15 percent of the corn acreage in 18 major producing states was planted as of April 28, compared to a five-year average of 25 percent. " from the Illinois farmerdocdaily.. The reason I say this is because last year I thought there was "trouble" with the apple trees in our area. Of course my brain says, END TIMES!!! Turns out, it was late frost while the trees were budding their leaves and the leaves suffered a kill. This year they seem to have rallied. We have been colder and wetter since 2006. We have not had the long hot summer like we did in the early 2000's.. We have had pretty brutal seriously cold winters LIKE THEY USED TO HAVE.. I live in the weather and manage pastures, so I KNOW of what I speak here. Things are cycles, ebbs and flows and no man-made computer model can predict 5 days out let alone 12 years or even 20...my two cents on the matter. Do a little reading on "Maunder Minimum". The symptoms are the ones that everyone was screaming about 'global warming' which has been changed to 'climate change' (when they discovered that the temps were trending down, not up) indicating a mini-ice age... The last one was during the thirty-years war, early 1600s, and iirc they tend to occur about every 400 years....
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Jun 8, 2019 10:55:29 GMT -6
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Post by yardstick on May 8, 2024 19:41:45 GMT -6
My thoughts... Rev 12:1-2 were clearly seen as the woman in the stars. Rev 12:3-4 I think, took place with the meteor shower Oct 7-8 last year, confirmed by the appearance of Hurricane Michael. Gary did a good article on it. Rev 15:1 This could be a sign with Pleiades, but to me it needs to be something more than that. I get the seven stars equals seven angels, but Pleiades is always there. It's called "great and amazing" or "great and marvelous". Rev 12:1-2, Virgo is always there, but the other parts are not. So, it had to be a special arrangement. I believe Rev 15:1 has to be something that is not ordinarily there either. I have found something on Stellarium that I think is interesting, but I am sure it's just a matter of waiting to see how things play out. In May 2024 (which is around 6 1/2 years from the Rev 12 sign) in an area known as the Celestial Sea, lots of things are lined up...Jupiter, Uranus, the Sun, Venus, Mercury, Mars, Neptune, Saturn, and the Moon. Uranus and Neptune are not visible to the naked eye, but it got my attention that all the planets, plus the sun and moon are all in the same part of the sky. And, right in front of this line is Taurus and Pleiades. So, seven planets, seven angels? Is the moon representing the church? The sun makes the "sea of glass mingled with fire". Pleiades would be those who "conquered the beast..standing beside the sea of glass (15:2) (Doesn't Pleiades stand for "the congregation" or something like that?) At the time I saw this on Stellarium, I posted here at Unsealed and @sam helped out. He knew, or found out, that the area of the sky all of this is taking place in is the Celestial Sea. Even taking out Uranus and Neptune, there are still seven heavenly bodies there. I don't know if it is the sign in Rev 15, but it sure resembles it to me. But how long from the time a sign appears to when what it signifies happens? I think this is the part we are struggling with, at least I know I am. I'll see if I can get a screen shot. I'm on a new laptop and it's got different programs and operating system than I am used to.
ETA: I edited my attachment. This is looking from Jerusalem. I labeled Neptune and Pleiades. Neptune is under the label for Mars. It's interesting to pull it up on Stellarium and scroll through May 3-11 and watch the moon move past each planet.)
I am bumping this thread (since I have been looking for it for a while) because this event is happening right now! So Natalie, how 'stretched out' do the planets get from each other and 1. are they stretched enough to cover 10 constellations; or 2. are there 10 'major' stars near them (like Aldebaran)...
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Post by Natalie on May 8, 2024 20:03:24 GMT -6
yardstick, not sure I can answer those, but I will try and pull up stellarium this weekend and see what I can find.
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Post by Gary on May 9, 2024 9:08:44 GMT -6
Fascinating. Now this May 2024 sign arguably fits quite well with Rev. 15:1. From a timing perspective, this could be very significant. Back in 2017 we expected that the Trib might run from 2017-2024. The fulfillment of Rev. 15 is toward the very end of the Trib (7 bowls of wrath). Thus sign #1 (Rev. 12:1-2): RAPTURE; sign #2: WAR IN HEAVEN/FALL OF SATAN and His angels / WE go up and THEY come down (Rev. 12:3-4); sign #3: depicting the bowls of wrath near the end of the Trib (Rev. 15:1). However, here we are 7 years later... Now, the chiastic structure of Revelation has been well noted. It even exists within Revelation 12. It can be argued that Rev. 12:1-6 portrays the astronomical/sign prefigurements of the literal fulfillments in vv. 7-17. And given that the literal fulfillments occur over a span of 7 years (the 70th Week), perhaps it was to be expected that the astronomical/sign prefigurements ALSO occur over a span of 7 years. This would explain why a sign portraying Rev. 15:1 toward the end of the Trib, signaling the END of the signs, might occur immediately before, after, or contemporaneously with the beginning of the actual 70th Week. Check out this article from way back in February 2017: www.unsealed.org/2017/02/signs-in-heavens-second-advent.html
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Post by yardstick on May 9, 2024 18:23:11 GMT -6
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| | | | 7Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back.
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| "10Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: “Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Messiah…"
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| | | | | | 1A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth.
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| | 5She gave birth to a son, a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.” a And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne.
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| | "11They triumphed over him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death. 12Therefore rejoice, you heavens and you who dwell in them!..."
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| 3Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads.
| 4Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child the moment he was born.
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| 8But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven.
| 9The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.
| "...10 For the accuser of our brothers and sisters, who accuses them before our God day and night, has been hurled down."
| "…12But woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has gone down to you! He is filled with fury, because he knows that his time is short.”"
| 13When the dragon saw that he had been hurled to the earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child.
| 15Then from his mouth the serpent spewed water like a river, to overtake the woman and sweep her away with the torrent.
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| 17Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring—those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus.
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| 14The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the wilderness, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent’s reach.
| 6The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.
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| | | | | | | | | | 16But the earth helped the woman by opening its mouth and swallowing the river that the dragon had spewed out of his mouth.
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I mapped Rev 12 a couple days ago because I have noticed there are some repetitive bits of information:
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Post by Gary on May 10, 2024 11:18:30 GMT -6
Sorry this is so grainy, but this is about the best Revelation chiasm analysis I've come across. Particularly interesting in Revelation 12.
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Post by Natalie on May 14, 2024 15:15:49 GMT -6
yardstick , sorry I didn't get to this over the weekend, I wasn't feeling great. Anyway, I scrolled through June and they spread out over 5 constellations - Gemini, Taurus, Aries, Pisces, and Aquarius. Major stars still Pleiades. By the end of July, They have spread to include two more constellations Leo and Cancer. By Aug 5th and 6th they are no longer a neat line with Mercury and Venus almost side by side instead of one in front of the other. I don't know if any of that is helpful.
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