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Post by yardstick on May 28, 2019 23:16:31 GMT -6
mike , Amen brother! Set aside all the debates of 70th week, who is the antichrist, is Rev 4:1 the rapture, are the seals open or not, the one thing we do have are those crazy constellations and planets, and how they move and where they are located at certain times and He set them that way from the beginning of time to occur this way now. It is pretty incredible. Where is yardstick to give us the probability of the 1st and third signs to be how they are in conjunction with those solar eclipses? To figure that out, you would have to know how frequently there are solar eclipses (in years). the fraction of occurrences divided by the time would give you the 'probability'. However, I suspect that the frequency of solar eclipses is very large compared to the frequency of the planets lining up as shown in the photo. THAT probability is probably the one we should be looking at. The other is icing. But if you really want to know, then just multiply the probabilities together. That will tell you the frequency such an event as 9/23/17 and 5/3/2024 occur |
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Post by yardstick on May 28, 2019 23:57:33 GMT -6
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Rev 15:1-2 Then I saw another sign in heaven, great and amazing, seven angels with seven plagues, which are the last, for with them the wrath of God is finished. And I saw what appeared to be a sea of glass mingled with fire -- and also those who had conquered the beast and its image and the number of its name, standing beside the sea of glass with harps of God in their hands.
The word 'Heaven' in Rev 15:1 is the same word that is used in Rev 12:1-4. IF this is a similar time-marker, then it might appear to indicate the beginning of the bowl judgments, per Rev 15:1 and Rev 16. IF that is the case, this time period might mark the near-end of the GT, leaving three possible hypotheses: 1. Trib ends some time in 2024 (noting that Sept 2017 to May 2024 is NOT 7 full years). Implying a mid-trib, pre-wrath or post trib harpazo. 2. May 2024 marks the midpoint (or possibly just after the midpoint) implying a non-linear progression of the seal, trumpet and bowl judgments (I believe most currenly believe a linear equidistant progression). Possibly a logarithmic (e x) scale, where things start slow and then the 7 bowls are all crammed together at the end (May-Oct 2024). Excepting the clause in 15:1 where it says 'the wrath is finished', 2024 may be the midpoint, where the sign is projecting what will come (kinda like 9/2017 and 10/2018 might). 3. 2024 starts the Trib (7 years) or Great Trib (3-1/2 - no Daniel 9:27 full 70th week), having taken all the 'signs' as not dependent upon each other; yet all required prior to the beginning. I think I read somewhere on the board that Israel's 80 years is finished by 2031, right? |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 9:21:28 GMT -6
Yardstick, I was not aware of the cattle situation... very interesting! I did read that corn planting is only 30% of normal due to all the water in the midwest....Natalie lives in corn country and probably knows better...
A quart of wheat for a denarius, and don't harm the oil or wine....sounds like food shortages at the 3rd seal. Australia is the 5th largest wheat exporter in the world, and it is currently importing Canadian wheat I read. China is liquidating 1/3 of it's pig population due to swine flu.....America is way behind on planting.....maybe others can make up the difference, but remains to be seen. I am concerned if a 3rd world country has a food shortage, how well can the need be met if world wide supplies are down? Bears watching.......
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Post by Natalie on May 29, 2019 10:35:52 GMT -6
Since moving to a large city I don't get the chance to drive past the fields like I did growing up. My husband said it's not good though.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 10:55:10 GMT -6
I worry about my 4 kids and 11 grandkids especially when I am with them......I've advised they store about 6 months worth of MRE's, beans, rice, baby food, for themselves and to share with others....8 of grandchildren are 4 or younger...
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 11:35:59 GMT -6
Here is an observation I made awhile back and shared with Daniel Matson......not sure if it means anything, but it is interesting
Increasing numbers of scholars believe the correct birth year of Christ was 1 or 2 BCE, later than traditionally thought, as it appears Herod may have died around 1 BCE according to some. If the 1st advent were 2 BCE, and the 2017-2024 time frame is correct, then the time from the first advent to the 2nd advent would be 2025 years.
You may have noticed the number 2422 in one of the parallelograms in the dropbox link.....I recalled 2422 somewhere before, and then I remembered the length of the solar year is 365.2422 days.
Here is what is interesting....take the extra fraction of the solar year, 0.2422 and multiply it by the number of years from the 1st to the proposed 2nd advent....
0.2422 X 2025 years = 490 years, or 70 times 7.....not sure if it means anything, but it is interesting
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Post by davewatchman on May 29, 2019 11:46:33 GMT -6
This does not say that the Lord ascended into heaven out of sight. It says He was lifted up while they were looking and a cloud took Him out of their sight. Did the cloud continue to lift Him, envelop Him or did He just disappear into the clouds? If He continued to be lifted, why the statement men from the two men in white robes? Weren't they looking at where He went.
‘why do you stand here looking into the sky?
‘This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven,
will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven’.”This one is still bugging me. Those angels can talk tricky. Iv'e seen them do it in Daniel 8 and 9. We've got to keep our eye on them. Why look into the SKY? Are they not disqualifying, turning our attention away from, the sky? So if it IS in the same manner, this same Jesus comes back, are they not pointing to the timing? This same Jesus, comes back the same day, Ascension Day, the way you have seen Him go? Take this part out between the commas for a minute: [ ,who has been taken from you into heaven,]. Because we KNOW that He has been taken from us into Heaven. That's obvious. And that Heaven must receive Him until the time comes to restore ALL things. And it leaves us with this: ‘This same Jesus will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven’.” - On Ascension Day. It's angel talk. Like the shell game. The angel tongue is quicker than the eye. Look up to the sky. DON'T look up to the sky. Why are looking up to the sky, men of Jesus? Ascension Day is 144 days from the "Darkened Sun. www.timeanddate.com/date/durationresult.html?m1=1&d1=6&y1=2019&m2=05&d2=30&y2=2019-->And I'm going right out, right out of my head going right out, right out of my head going right out, right out of my head going right out, right out of my head |
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Post by davewatchman on May 29, 2019 12:07:33 GMT -6
A quart of wheat for a denarius, and don't harm the oil or wine....sounds like food shortages at the 3rd seal. Australia is the 5th largest wheat exporter in the world, and it is currently importing Canadian wheat I read. China is liquidating 1/3 of it's pig population due to swine flu.....America is way behind on planting.....maybe others can make up the difference, but remains to be seen. I am concerned if a 3rd world country has a food shortage, how well can the need be met if world wide supplies are down? Bears watching....... I don't worry about this part Sam, i seriously don't. I don't think this seal is talking about famine, i seriously don't. This happened already in the middle 1800's. Jesus began building his Temple one brick at a time. Those are the same commodities that Solomon used to pay the King of Tyre for the materials to build the earthly temple in 2 Chronicles 2. 2 Chronicles 2 New International Version
Preparations for Building the Temple“Now let my lord send his servants the wheat and barley
and the olive oil and wine he promised,This step had to be finished before the end times, the rapture, can begin. Jesus had to finish judging the dead, for they will rise first. The scales in the rider's hand are the scales of justice, like lady justice of the Supreme Court. Some translations read: "A quart of wheat for a days wages". Wages are what i get for a days work. And the wages for sin is, you guessed it, death. Dreadful sorry Clementine. |
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Post by yardstick on May 29, 2019 20:02:28 GMT -6
Here is an observation I made awhile back and shared with Daniel Matson......not sure if it means anything, but it is interesting Increasing numbers of scholars believe the correct birth year of Christ was 1 or 2 BCE, later than traditionally thought, as it appears Herod may have died around 1 BCE according to some. If the 1st advent were 2 BCE, and the 2017-2024 time frame is correct, then the time from the first advent to the 2nd advent would be 2025 years. You may have noticed the number 2422 in one of the parallelograms in the dropbox link.....I had seen 2422 somewhere before, and then I remembered the length of the solar years is 365.2422 days. Here is what is interesting....take the extra fraction of the solar year, 0.2422 and multiply it by the number of years from the 1st to the proposed 2nd advent.... 0.2422 X 2025 years = 490 years, or 70 times 7.....not sure if it means anything, but it is interesting Back in 2017 I believe, there was extensive analysis of the star and planet patterns provided by Stellarium (there was a pattern of alignments similar to the 9/23 sign). The sign that the magi followed (if memory serves) occurred in about 3 or 4 BC. Assuming it took them a year or so to get to Bethlehem, then that might confirm the scholars' opinions. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 21:22:46 GMT -6
Interesting yardstick! I found this discussion which corroborates your recollection: www.hope-of-israel.org/herodsdeath.htmlIt's interesting the early church fathers placed the birth from 3 to 1 BCE |
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Post by Natalie on May 31, 2019 16:33:00 GMT -6
@sam , drove a few miles outside of town and nothing is planted, nothing plowed, no one working. It's a sad sight.
This should be corn not yellow flowers:
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2019 19:52:26 GMT -6
Whoa, something is afoot....Middle America is a bread basket for the world....something is disturbingly wrong when our middle is not planting, this deserves our attention and prayers....I am praying for our farmers at the very moment.....
It's strange America cannot plant and Australia is importing....very strange
Blessings, greater is He in us than he that is in the world....
Shalom!
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Post by venge on Jun 7, 2019 10:01:06 GMT -6
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Rev 15:1-2 Then I saw another sign in heaven, great and amazing, seven angels with seven plagues, which are the last, for with them the wrath of God is finished. And I saw what appeared to be a sea of glass mingled with fire -- and also those who had conquered the beast and its image and the number of its name, standing beside the sea of glass with harps of God in their hands.
The word 'Heaven' in Rev 15:1 is the same word that is used in Rev 12:1-4. IF this is a similar time-marker, then it might appear to indicate the beginning of the bowl judgments, per Rev 15:1 and Rev 16. IF that is the case, this time period might mark the near-end of the GT, leaving three possible hypotheses: 1. Trib ends some time in 2024 (noting that Sept 2017 to May 2024 is NOT 7 full years). Implying a mid-trib, pre-wrath or post trib harpazo. 2. May 2024 marks the midpoint (or possibly just after the midpoint) implying a non-linear progression of the seal, trumpet and bowl judgments (I believe most currenly believe a linear equidistant progression). Possibly a logarithmic (e x) scale, where things start slow and then the 7 bowls are all crammed together at the end (May-Oct 2024). Excepting the clause in 15:1 where it says 'the wrath is finished', 2024 may be the midpoint, where the sign is projecting what will come (kinda like 9/2017 and 10/2018 might). 3. 2024 starts the Trib (7 years) or Great Trib (3-1/2 - no Daniel 9:27 full 70th week), having taken all the 'signs' as not dependent upon each other; yet all required prior to the beginning. I think I read somewhere on the board that Israel's 80 years is finished by 2031, right? This: 2024 starts the Trib (7 years) or Great Trib (3-1/2 - no Daniel 9:27 full 70th week), having taken all the 'signs' as not dependent upon each other; yet all required prior to the beginning. I think I read somewhere on the board that Israel's 80 years is finished by 2031, right? Well, I will check back in 2024 and 2025 and I’m adding this to my ammo!! Here’s a prediction: it will happen sometime AFTER you read this. I guarantee it. |
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Jun 7, 2019 18:43:26 GMT -6
@sam , drove a few miles outside of town and nothing is planted, nothing plowed, no one working. It's a sad sight.
This should be corn not yellow flowers:
Nat, is it possible this is canola (rapeseed)? or a sunflower or some other broadleaf rotation to corn? often soybean (legume/broadleaf) is rotated with corn as corn being a grass depletes the soil of nitrogen, among other things. it looks cultivated. Also, corn stockpiles/or canola demand may have warranted the farmer to change crops.. also, I did a google search found this reason for late planting has to do with wet conditions, not drought. "Wet conditions in much of the Corn Belt continue to hamper corn planting progress this spring. The USDA’s most recent weekly Crop Progress report indicated that only 15 percent of the corn acreage in 18 major producing states was planted as of April 28, compared to a five-year average of 25 percent. " from the Illinois farmerdocdaily.. The reason I say this is because last year I thought there was "trouble" with the apple trees in our area. Of course my brain says, END TIMES!!! Turns out, it was late frost while the trees were budding their leaves and the leaves suffered a kill. This year they seem to have rallied. We have been colder and wetter since 2006. We have not had the long hot summer like we did in the early 2000's.. We have had pretty brutal seriously cold winters LIKE THEY USED TO HAVE.. I live in the weather and manage pastures, so I KNOW of what I speak here. Things are cycles, ebbs and flows and no man-made computer model can predict 5 days out let alone 12 years or even 20...my two cents on the matter. |
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Jun 7, 2019 18:51:21 GMT -6
what are the calculations for lunar period, which is "360" ?
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