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Post by sog on Mar 23, 2018 9:52:39 GMT -6
The Vatican has taken new measures to punish critics of Pope Francis in a move that seems to belie the pope’s earlier calls for greater dialogue and debate within the Church. www.breitbart.com/national-security/2018/03/23/vatican-cracks-critics-pope-francis/On Thursday, the Rome-based Sovereign Order of Malta, which reports directly to the Holy See, suspended historian Henry Sire after he was revealed to be the author of the bestselling book The Dictator Pope: The Inside Story of the Francis Papacy, a critical examination of the pontificate of Pope Francis. ...In it, Sire portrayed Francis as an authoritarian leader who does not brook opposition or criticism. Contrary to his public persona as a jovial man of the people, Sire wrote that Francis has turned out to be “a papal tyrant the like of whom has not been seen for many centuries” and under his administration, “the Vatican is systematically silencing, eliminating and replacing critics of the Pope’s views.” “When the publicity cameras are off him, Pope Francis turns into a different figure: arrogant, dismissive of people, prodigal of bad language and notorious for furious outbursts of temper which are known to everyone from the cardinals to the chauffeurs,” he declared. He is my leading candidate for THE False Prophet. |
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Post by stormyknight on Mar 23, 2018 11:52:42 GMT -6
This news does not surprise me in the least. It is similar to reports of Hillary Clinton behind the scenes. I believe our Heavenly Father did, indeed, intervene in this last election. This being a higher earthly office, it does kind of send chills down one's spine. That moment is almost upon us, brethren. Jesus is at the door and turning the doorknob!
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Post by kjs on Mar 23, 2018 15:05:15 GMT -6
While it is perfectly possibly that the current Pope is indeed the False Prophet mentioned in Revelation ....
I wish to caution everyone that we DO NOT KNOW with 100% certainty.....
I have the viewpoint that WE ALL (Believers) will BE GONE -- when the AC and FP come upon the scene ......
so the only thing for us to worry about -- is the "knowing" -- if that is even something to worry about.....
ABOUT all these "exposure" Books -- coming out --- again we should be very cautious accepting the "WORD" of these authors, if you do not personally know them and how credible they are.....
For example Hillary got beat up pretty bad in the conservative press -- for things that have YET to be proven.
One such thing is the PizzaGate/ Child Pornography Ring based upon some rumors that have never even panned out.
Heck I been to the Bar/Pizza place in DC -- headquarters of these villains (supposedly) and all it is is a sleazy Bar/Pizza joint.
It does not have even half the space available for the tales being spun about it.
A guy (shortly after these rumors were told) went in with a GUN to "Save these Children" and He could not even find evidence of anything going on in this VERY SMALL business.... and all he got for his trouble is threatening people with a gun.
Sad fact is people LIE and even authors Lie.........
So unless you know with 100% certainty -- Like eyewitness certainty -- take all these exposure books with a grain of salt.....
How big a grain -- depends on who is telling the story........
AND before someone claims me being a Hillary Supporter --- Let's just say there is enough "legit" questions about her that makes one think twice about supporting her -- Like those missing emails..........
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Post by sog on Mar 29, 2018 14:25:10 GMT -6
kjs, I get what you are saying, and I agree that we do not know 100%. Which is why I used “leading candidate”. At the same time the Pope continues to say and do things that solidify my opinion that that is what he is. His teachings are from Satan. www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/pope-francis-there-no-hellFrom recent interview- In another interview with his longtime atheist friend, Eugenio Scalfari, Pope Francis claims that Hell does not exist and that condemned souls just "disappear." This is a denial of the 2,000-year-old teaching of the Catholic Church about the reality of Hell and the eternal existence of the soul. ... Pope Francis says, "They are not punished, those who repent obtain the forgiveness of God and enter the rank of souls who contemplate him, but those who do not repent and cannot therefore be forgiven disappear. There is no hell, there is the disappearance of sinful souls." I ask, is there anyone currently more deserving of False Prophet than he is ?
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Post by kjs on Mar 29, 2018 15:11:56 GMT -6
Hey, I do hear you and you do make a strong argument ...
When the Pope said he was going to "SAVE" aliens -- the hair on my head/neck stood up....
The thing with the False Prophet though (if I read it correctly) -- He (the FP) will be promoting the AC.....
Right now he just seems to be promoting self .......
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Post by sog on Apr 4, 2018 20:58:43 GMT -6
kjs , obviously the False Prophet is not going to promote the AC until that time that the AC is to be revealed. Until that time, I think the FP needs to promote himself in order to gain trust and respect of not just Christians, but more importantly to him, the AC, and Satan, the trust of the ungodly masses. I believe that is what is taking place with this Pope. He’s had a movie made about him. He seems to relish the spotlight. He’s continually moving away from God’s word towards more secular beliefs. He doesn’t need to promote the AC at this point, but he does need to get the masses to believe in him and his heretical views thereby making it easier for the world to believe him when he speaks of the AC and his trust in AC. This is a pretty good article about this latest controversy. www.lifesitenews.com/news/catastrophic-for-the-catholic-church-world-media-reacts-to-pope-franciss-deFrom article (but there is much more said)- “There is thus a game being played by Scalfari and Bergoglio for over five years now, in which the Argentine pope consents to a sort of double Magisterial track. When he speaks to Catholics he expresses himself in a certain vague and theologically ambiguous way. He avoids explicit statements and thus little by little demolishes doctrine (the tactic of boiling frogs slowly). Meanwhile, he speaks through Scalfari to the secular world, making known his true ideas, which are so totally modern, in order to build up his “revolution” and to have popularity among non-Catholics and the media.” This is one person’s opinion from the article, but I believe he is spot on.
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Post by venge on Apr 5, 2018 12:02:20 GMT -6
no txt
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Post by sog on Apr 5, 2018 12:42:47 GMT -6
Why would the pope be the AC? He does not deny Christ therefore he cannot be an antichrist. Look toward religions that deny Christ. Judaism, Islam and a few others. The pope is not one of them. The assertion of this thread is that the Pope is the False Prophet, not the Anti-Christ. However, I respectfully disagree with the premise that the AC has to deny Christ. Satan himself didn’t. Otherwise he wouldn’t have even wasted time trying to tempt him. When that didn’t work Satan set out to destroy Jesus. Why do that if you have no fear that he was Christ. Actions mean more than words. Some people say things out of both sides of their mouth so as to deceive. In my opinion this Pope reveals who he is by his actions and words. |
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Post by mike on Apr 5, 2018 14:11:23 GMT -6
1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would [no doubt] have continued with us: but [they went out], that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. 21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth. 22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also ]. 24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
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Post by venge on Apr 5, 2018 15:10:41 GMT -6
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Post by sog on Apr 5, 2018 18:20:52 GMT -6
Does anyone know with 100% certainty that the Pope is saved and going to heaven? Is anyone 100% sure I’m saved and going to heaven? No? Why? Because only the Father knows. God told us we will have a good idea by our fruits, but not 100% knowledge. Only God holds that power. Is it possible to say one thing publicly, but believe in your heart another? Sure, man is deceitful by sinful nature. You can lie to man, but not to God. Can man fool many time and time again in order to the reach the highest levels of power and respect? Lol, has it not happened throughout history? I believe the Pope is such a man. By his fruits and words. 100% sure ? No. Again, only God holds that power. Only time will tell. www.davidjeremiah.org/site/articles/bible-say-about-false-prophet-in-revelation.aspxI’m not a bible scholar, but Dr Jeremiah is. He believes there is a separate Antichrist and False Prophet. That’s good enough for me. I’ve been through a few of his bible studies. I trust Dr. J |
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Post by venge on Apr 6, 2018 4:04:54 GMT -6
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Post by venge on Apr 6, 2018 4:10:09 GMT -6
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Post by fitz on Apr 6, 2018 4:30:45 GMT -6
Yes I have read his stuff. If there are 2 people, please explain how that is. Only 1 man of sin. Only 1 son of perdition. Only 1 man of lawlessness and only 1 false prophet. They are the same because the apostles only spoke of 1. The Old Testament speaks of only 1. The confusion lies in the beast. When the beast is a lion it’s an empire. When the beast is a leopard it’s an empire etc..Daniel demonstrates each beast raises out of the sea and the angel defines a sea. When the final beast comes out of the sea it is the final empire, not a separate man. That is why it has 10 horns. Who is the 11th horn but the AC. But no false prophet is mentioned. Is he a 12th horn? No because they are the same. Each is described having powers from Satan to bring down fire and to deceive the elect. Man arises out of earth, empires arise out of a sea. Isa 2:22 Stop regarding man, whose breathe is in his nostrils; for why should he be esteemed? Don’t trust Dr J. He is fallible and does not speak for God. He may have wisdom which is good. But trust in the Lord I wish I had a dime for every "new revelation" I've seen in the past year. 2000 years of church history...countless men of God, theologians whose lives were devoted to the study of scripture, but in the last minutes of human history, an avalanche of self proclaimed theological geniuses arise. Rev 13:11-14 Clearly "another" beast...a second beast that refers to the first beast and cause all to worship that first beast. 11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. |
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Post by venge on Apr 6, 2018 6:10:37 GMT -6
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