Job19
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For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:
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Post by Job19 on Jan 16, 2018 0:06:34 GMT -6
Dear Brothers & Sisters in Christ,
I hope that this message finds you safe and well. You may agree that 2017 has been a breath taking year in relation to Bible prophecy especially the Revelation 12 Sign. I have been truly blessed by the studies revolving around this sign but also I little saddened by the mocking, scoffing and falling out that has occurred between some in the body of Christ including some from prominent ministries. However my position remains that it was a “Sign” in that it represented a choreography or a stage play in the heavens to show those watching and paying attention what was to happen (in reality) at some point in the future. It is this “some point in the future” that I would like to discuss with you.
During the ordinary course of my Old Testaments studies a few weeks ago I was struck by the passage of scripture in Genesis 18 regarding the visit of Jesus and two Angels to Abraham and Sarah. In Verse 10 Jesus said told Abraham & Sarah “I will certainly return unto thee according to the time of life; and lo Sarah thy wife shall have a son”. Later in verse 14 Jesus reiterates “At the time appointed I will return unto thee, according to the time of life, and Sarah shall have a Son”. After reading this I immediately thought that this was a pattern for Rev 12. Knowing that Isaac is a model of Jesus in Genesis, my thinking was that the appearance of Jesus to Abraham & Sarah was a “Sign” and then 9 months later there was a actual birth. I then started to look for any correlation or pattern between the signs in the heavens during the birth of Jesus and the Revelation 12 sign. I found out that 80% of babies are born between 261 and 280 days of pregnancy. I know that many scholars believe that Jesus was born on 11th Sept 3BC but I think that there is good evidence that He was actually born a few days later than this, on the 3rd day of Tabernacles (29th Sept 3BC-I have a 30min video on this). There are exactly 261 days between 29th Sept 3BC and a Jupiter/Venus conjunction on 17th June 2BC (very likely the star that the wise men saw)
I see the Revelation 12 sign, as far as it pertains to the body of Christ, coming to and end at verse 5 when the Man Child-"Teknon" enters the Throne room of heaven. It was actually from Paul Dawsons great video teaching on the throne room of Heaven & Libra that I was able to make this "possible" connection and I have joined this forum site to get in touch with you. This is the first time I have ever joined an internet prophecy forum but I have done so now because I think that this may be important.1t seems to me that the Rev 12 sign ended, as far as it pertains to the Church on 24th Dec 2017 at 21.30 GMT. I did a day count from the end of the Rev 12 sign using the same 261 days as the sign of Christ’s birth and was stunned that it landed on the Rosh Hashanna 2018 (11th Sept 2018).
I have prepared an excel spread sheet with this and a few other dates and conjunctions which are by no means exhaustive, its really the 261 day connection where I am most focused, but there is probably more to look into. I would welcome your input and comments on this and hopefully some here on this site will add to this study. I realise that you are probably thinking at this point oh here we go another guy playing with dates and numbers and torturing the statistics so they will confess to anything (yes a Chuck Missler quote !!) but I can promise you that I am really careful not to do that. I believe that this shows a connection to the Birth of Christ (Head) and the Birth of the Church (Body). I am not a subscriber to any prophecy group or a youtuber, I am not seeking any credit for myself (all praise and credit to my SAVIOUR) but if this is genuine then I think that the body of Christ could be edified by this after being in the prophetic doldrums after 23rd September 2017.
Many blessings in Christ
Shalom
David
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Post by mike on Jan 16, 2018 7:09:17 GMT -6
Welcome to the forum David ( Job19) |
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Post by klb on Jan 16, 2018 7:28:32 GMT -6
Welcome David! Very interesting!
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Post by fitz on Jan 16, 2018 8:46:48 GMT -6
The past few days I've been thinking....what if the sign was a 1 year warning and Feast of Trumpets 2018 is the day? Just been thinking that God moves at His pace....slower than ours. i.e. 2 Peter 3:9.
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Post by barb84 on Jan 16, 2018 9:09:38 GMT -6
I have wondered if somehow the length of a human pregnancy played in somehow.
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Post by mike on Jan 16, 2018 9:45:08 GMT -6
fitz similar thoughts this morning (before reading this post). Me "Lord what did the Sign signify?" Me "was it like the original Magi sign? Do we have 3 years, 33 years or what?"
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Post by witness1 on Jan 16, 2018 21:42:11 GMT -6
Before I read your explanation, when I read the “time of life”, I thought of this verse:
Then the LORD said, "My Spirit shall not abide in man forever, for he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years." - Genesis 6:3
I thought, “He will appear according to the time of life which is 120 years?”
Wondering if perhaps this could be more confirmation of the 120 days from the sign?
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Job19
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For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:
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Post by Job19 on Jan 18, 2018 2:49:25 GMT -6
I think we all got I bit excited last year over this sign, and for good reason, but I also think we got a little bit ahead of things due to modern technology such as stellarium. As great as stellarium is in giving us all a heads up on signs in the heavens which the wise men did not have 2 millennia ago it added another stage in proceedings. Its almost like we had the "sign of the sign" (eg: Stellarium) , followed by the sign itself (which I maintain ended on 24th Dec 2017) and now we are waiting for the fulfilment of the sign ( the Rapture)
I had a deeper look into Genesis 18 and in verse 14 the word for appointed time is "mow`ed" (Strongs 4150). I also discovered that some of the bible translators apparently struggled over being sensitive regarding the birth of Issac and some translations appear to be suggesting a year from the Lord giving the sign of a birth and the birth itself. However the King James has it more accurately as the Lord returning at the appointed time of life. So it seems to me that the Lord was setting a 9 month pregnancy period from the sign and an actual birth. I was also puzzled over the fact that the Lord said that He would return for the birth .........why ?. Is this a prophetic pattern. I believe it could well be. The miracle had already been accomplished in causing Sarah to conceive so I was thinking why does the Lord need to return for the birth.
Many blessings David
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Post by witness1 on Jan 18, 2018 6:20:19 GMT -6
Interesting idea that the sign wasn’t merely a day but rather the entire period until 12/25. If schooldad3 is correct, the sign of the dragon was also a period of time which ends today.
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Job19
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For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:
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Post by Job19 on Jan 20, 2018 1:36:20 GMT -6
I thought I would post a Video created last year by some Brothers & Sisters in London regarding the Rev 12 sign and the birth of Christ which provides some pretty compelling evidence for a 29th September 3BC birthday of Jesus and other relevant information. I have also uploaded a simple chart showing the pattern between His birth and the possible birth of the Church. I am really waiting for some of my Brothers & Sisters here to analyse this because I think it may fill in some of the prophetic puzzle pieces after the Rev 12 sign.
As I write this I was just watching the recent webcast with Adam who had Scottie Clarke on as a guest. Scottie was talking about the Genesis 18 connection to Rev 12 but I this it would be helpful for him to watch Paul Dawsons video on the Throne room and Libra. (Jupiter enters throne room on 24th Dec 2017 being the completion of the sign as far as it pertains to the church-Rev 12:5)
Many blessings David
Genesis 18 Connection chart.xlsx (12.74 KB)
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Job19
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For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:
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Post by Job19 on May 13, 2018 6:38:12 GMT -6
I just noticed that there are exactly 120 days from 14th May 2018 to the start of Rosh Hashanna this year. Many bible scholars suggest that 120 is the biblical number for "a period of waiting". So I wonder if there is a 120 day period of waiting for the Bride of Christ after the "Generation" of the fig tree" (Israel is 70) and the rapture. This may of course be a coincidence but the coincidences keep on piling up !!.
I would welcome any input from others regarding any other 120 day patterns which may be relevant here.
David
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Post by dent on May 27, 2018 4:31:59 GMT -6
Dear Brothers & Sisters in Christ,
I hope that this message finds you safe and well. You may agree that 2017 has been a breath taking year in relation to Bible prophecy especially the Revelation 12 Sign. I have been truly blessed by the studies revolving around this sign but also I little saddened by the mocking, scoffing and falling out that has occurred between some in the body of Christ including some from prominent ministries. However my position remains that it was a “Sign” in that it represented a choreography or a stage play in the heavens to show those watching and paying attention what was to happen (in reality) at some point in the future. It is this “some point in the future” that I would like to discuss with you.
During the ordinary course of my Old Testaments studies a few weeks ago I was struck by the passage of scripture in Genesis 18 regarding the visit of Jesus and two Angels to Abraham and Sarah. In Verse 10 Jesus said told Abraham & Sarah “I will certainly return unto thee according to the time of life; and lo Sarah thy wife shall have a son”. Later in verse 14 Jesus reiterates “At the time appointed I will return unto thee, according to the time of life, and Sarah shall have a Son”. After reading this I immediately thought that this was a pattern for Rev 12. Knowing that Isaac is a model of Jesus in Genesis, my thinking was that the appearance of Jesus to Abraham & Sarah was a “Sign” and then 9 months later there was a actual birth. I then started to look for any correlation or pattern between the signs in the heavens during the birth of Jesus and the Revelation 12 sign. I found out that 80% of babies are born between 261 and 280 days of pregnancy. I know that many scholars believe that Jesus was born on 11th Sept 3BC but I think that there is good evidence that He was actually born a few days later than this, on the 3rd day of Tabernacles (29th Sept 3BC-I have a 30min video on this). There are exactly 261 days between 29th Sept 3BC and a Jupiter/Venus conjunction on 17th June 2BC (very likely the star that the wise men saw)
I see the Revelation 12 sign, as far as it pertains to the body of Christ, coming to and end at verse 5 when the Man Child-"Teknon" enters the Throne room of heaven. It was actually from Paul Dawsons great video teaching on the throne room of Heaven & Libra that I was able to make this "possible" connection and I have joined this forum site to get in touch with you. This is the first time I have ever joined an internet prophecy forum but I have done so now because I think that this may be important.1t seems to me that the Rev 12 sign ended, as far as it pertains to the Church on 24th Dec 2017 at 21.30 GMT. I did a day count from the end of the Rev 12 sign using the same 261 days as the sign of Christ’s birth and was stunned that it landed on the Rosh Hashanna 2018 (11th Sept 2018).
I have prepared an excel spread sheet with this and a few other dates and conjunctions which are by no means exhaustive, its really the 261 day connection where I am most focused, but there is probably more to look into. I would welcome your input and comments on this and hopefully some here on this site will add to this study. I realise that you are probably thinking at this point oh here we go another guy playing with dates and numbers and torturing the statistics so they will confess to anything (yes a Chuck Missler quote !!) but I can promise you that I am really careful not to do that. I believe that this shows a connection to the Birth of Christ (Head) and the Birth of the Church (Body). I am not a subscriber to any prophecy group or a youtuber, I am not seeking any credit for myself (all praise and credit to my SAVIOUR) but if this is genuine then I think that the body of Christ could be edified by this after being in the prophetic doldrums after 23rd September 2017.
Many blessings in Christ
Shalom
David
David, Please take a look at my thread "Elijah must come first". We are in total agreement brother. May God richly bless you! Dent |
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Job19
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For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:
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Post by Job19 on May 28, 2018 23:16:27 GMT -6
Dent,
I have read your Elijah post and unfortunately, at the moment, there is very little that we agree on.
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Post by dent on May 30, 2018 7:11:43 GMT -6
Dent,
I have read your Elijah post and unfortunately, at the moment, there is very little that we agree on.
The bit in your opening post that I wanted to highlight was "9 months later there was a actual birth". So, we are agreed that on or around (birth dates are not precise, rather statistical) 23 June 2018 there will be birth. That's a start, hey? Let's build from there please. Dent |
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Post by Gary on May 30, 2018 8:11:48 GMT -6
Dear Brothers & Sisters in Christ,
I hope that this message finds you safe and well. You may agree that 2017 has been a breath taking year in relation to Bible prophecy especially the Revelation 12 Sign. I have been truly blessed by the studies revolving around this sign but also I little saddened by the mocking, scoffing and falling out that has occurred between some in the body of Christ including some from prominent ministries. However my position remains that it was a “Sign” in that it represented a choreography or a stage play in the heavens to show those watching and paying attention what was to happen (in reality) at some point in the future. It is this “some point in the future” that I would like to discuss with you.
During the ordinary course of my Old Testaments studies a few weeks ago I was struck by the passage of scripture in Genesis 18 regarding the visit of Jesus and two Angels to Abraham and Sarah. In Verse 10 Jesus said told Abraham & Sarah “I will certainly return unto thee according to the time of life; and lo Sarah thy wife shall have a son”. Later in verse 14 Jesus reiterates “At the time appointed I will return unto thee, according to the time of life, and Sarah shall have a Son”. After reading this I immediately thought that this was a pattern for Rev 12. Knowing that Isaac is a model of Jesus in Genesis, my thinking was that the appearance of Jesus to Abraham & Sarah was a “Sign” and then 9 months later there was a actual birth. I then started to look for any correlation or pattern between the signs in the heavens during the birth of Jesus and the Revelation 12 sign. I found out that 80% of babies are born between 261 and 280 days of pregnancy. I know that many scholars believe that Jesus was born on 11th Sept 3BC but I think that there is good evidence that He was actually born a few days later than this, on the 3rd day of Tabernacles (29th Sept 3BC-I have a 30min video on this). There are exactly 261 days between 29th Sept 3BC and a Jupiter/Venus conjunction on 17th June 2BC (very likely the star that the wise men saw)
I see the Revelation 12 sign, as far as it pertains to the body of Christ, coming to and end at verse 5 when the Man Child-"Teknon" enters the Throne room of heaven. It was actually from Paul Dawsons great video teaching on the throne room of Heaven & Libra that I was able to make this "possible" connection and I have joined this forum site to get in touch with you. This is the first time I have ever joined an internet prophecy forum but I have done so now because I think that this may be important.1t seems to me that the Rev 12 sign ended, as far as it pertains to the Church on 24th Dec 2017 at 21.30 GMT. I did a day count from the end of the Rev 12 sign using the same 261 days as the sign of Christ’s birth and was stunned that it landed on the Rosh Hashanna 2018 (11th Sept 2018).
I have prepared an excel spread sheet with this and a few other dates and conjunctions which are by no means exhaustive, its really the 261 day connection where I am most focused, but there is probably more to look into. I would welcome your input and comments on this and hopefully some here on this site will add to this study. I realise that you are probably thinking at this point oh here we go another guy playing with dates and numbers and torturing the statistics so they will confess to anything (yes a Chuck Missler quote !!) but I can promise you that I am really careful not to do that. I believe that this shows a connection to the Birth of Christ (Head) and the Birth of the Church (Body). I am not a subscriber to any prophecy group or a youtuber, I am not seeking any credit for myself (all praise and credit to my SAVIOUR) but if this is genuine then I think that the body of Christ could be edified by this after being in the prophetic doldrums after 23rd September 2017.
Many blessings in Christ
Shalom
David
Powerful thoughts. Funny, you posted this months ago and I'm just now seeing this, but I saw your post literally minutes after I posted this: www.unsealed.org/2016/07/rapture-index-score.html?showComment=1527688861579#c6377883509657791345 |
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