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Post by brandon on May 5, 2018 18:05:45 GMT -6
Steve also found that June 20th is month 4 day 5 on torahcalendar.
Ezekiel 1:1 - Now it came to pass in the thirtieth year, in the fourth month, in the fifth day of the month, as I was among the captives by the river of Chebar, that the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of God.
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Post by brandon on May 7, 2018 17:14:31 GMT -6
I found this video to nicely cover a lot of reasons for why a Pentecost rapture fits.
My favorite point is that Mount Sinai, traditionally taught to have been on Pentecost, started the dispensation of the law and likewise the age of grace (maybe kind of started... because some may agrue later after the Stoning of Stephen or earlier right at calvary) at Pentecost. Therefore, wouldn't Pentecost make an interesting time for a 3rd dispensational change into Daniel's 70th Week?
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Post by brandon on May 10, 2018 18:39:52 GMT -6
Anyone wanting something fun to do!?
Go check out what the 2190th verse is in the Bible and then read Part II of my post on page six again. I've added three new verses into that section, which I found to be highly supportive of this #'s interplay with the timing of the rapture.
EDIT (Spoiler Alert): ok... if you're lacking on time, here's a copy and paste of the new stuff, but you don't get the full effect without seeing how this fits with the rest of that section.
Randomly searching for single word(s) summing to 2190, I found ἐχθροὶ (echthroi), which has 6 Occurrences and means hated, hostile, enemy. The second to last occurrence is Roman's 11:28, which I find interesting because as seen above in Romans 11:25, this verse is also showing how Israel was put aside, for the sake of the mystery, the forming of the Body of Christ from both Jew and Gentile, which as seen above is UNTIL the fullness of the Gentiles be come in, which may indicate that the rapture will be when God lifts their blindness.
Romans 11:28 - As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.
Also interesting is the last occurence of ἐχθροὶ (echthroi) in Revelation 11:12, which is the verse describing the resurrection and ascension of the two witnesses, which makes me think of the resurrection of the dead and the catching away of the Body of Christ, at the rapture.
Revelation 11:12 - And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
...and here's the other added part.
Here's another awesome find, which may hint towards a future Pentecost being the timing of the rapture. The 2190th verse in the Bible describes God calling Moses to come up to Him on mount Sinai, when God gave Moses the law.
Exodus 24:12 - And the LORD said unto Moses,
Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will give thee tables
of stone, and a law, and commandments which I have written; that thou
mayest teach them.
Mount Sinai was a dispensational shift into the law period of time, which is traditionally taught to have been on Pentecost. Pentecost is also ushered in the dispensation of the church age, and if it's the timing of the rapture will kick off the dispensation of Jacob's Troubles, and if that time frame is exactly 7 years long, then the date of Pentecost would also transition the world into the dispensation of the Millennial Kingdom, which if it's exactly 1,000 years long would then likewise transition into Eternity.
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Post by brandon on May 11, 2018 15:52:12 GMT -6
Check out some verses from Psalms 18. Might they describe the rapture?
2The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower.
3I will call upon the LORD, who is worthy to be praised: so shall I be saved from mine enemies.
4The sorrows of death compassed me, and the floods of ungodly men made me afraid.
5The sorrows of hell compassed me about: the snares of death prevented me.
6In my distress I called upon the LORD, and cried unto my God: he heard my voice out of his temple, and my cry came before him, even into his ears.
7Then the earth shook and trembled; the foundations also of the hills moved and were shaken, because he was wroth.
8There went up a smoke out of his nostrils, and fire out of his mouth devoured: coals were kindled by it.
9He bowed the heavens also, and came down: and darkness was under his feet.
10And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: yea, he did fly upon the wings of the wind.
11He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round about him were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies.
12At the brightness that was before him his thick clouds passed, hail stones and coals of fire.
13The LORD also thundered in the heavens, and the Highest gave his voice; hail stones and coals of fire.
14Yea, he sent out his arrows, and scattered them; and he shot out lightnings, and discomfited them.
15Then the channels of waters were seen, and the foundations of the world were discovered at thy rebuke, O LORD, at the blast of the breath of thy nostrils.
16He sent from above, he took me, he drew me out of many waters.
17He delivered me from my strong enemy, and from them which hated me: for they were too strong for me.
18They prevented me in the day of my calamity: but the LORD was my stay.
19He brought me forth also into a large place; he delivered me, because he delighted in me.
20The LORD rewarded me according to my righteousness; according to the cleanness of my hands hath he recompensed me.
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Post by brandon on May 12, 2018 4:48:48 GMT -6
I didn't know there were possible connections between Pentecost to Ruth & Boaz. Here's an article that looks at some of the harvest traditions, which played a part in Ruth gleaming Boaz's fields. IMO, this story foreshadows that Jesus would likewise redeem all of mankind. Ruth was a Gentile. blog.israelbiblicalstudies.com/holy-land-studies/read-ruth-pentecost/I find Pentecost's connection with the timing of the wheat harvest interesting because of the following verse. Take note that wheat is specifically mentioned; not barely or the harvesting of fruit. I'm not sure if this would apply more to the rapture or the second coming, but nevertheless, if Pentecost is the rapture, the likewise after a 7 year time frame, Pentecost could also be the second coming, which in either case would make the wheat symbolism apply. Props to Steve Sewell for pointing this out in one of his YouTube Blessed Hope 2018 videos. Matthew 13:30 - Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
Consider also Chuck Missler's below posted web page, which indicates some of his reasons for considering Pentecost a high watch date. This page also goes over various Ruth connections.
www.khouse.org/articles/2003/469/
Now for the fun part. Consider the following verse.
Ruth 3:8 - And it came to pass at midnight, that the man was afraid, and turned himself: and, behold, a woman lay at his feet.
The timing of this verse may have been precisely at midnight on the Shavuot (Pentecost). The timing that Boaz choose to be Ruth's kinsman redeemer could symbolically foreshadow when Jesus likewise redeems his mostly gentile bride. As stated earlier on the top of the post on page six of this thread, Israel's Declaration of Independence didn't officially kick off into effect until midnight of May 14th 1948. Midnight being the transition between the 20th / 21st is therefore highly interesting in light of the other stuff I've wrote about for May 21st.
Here's some other midnight references in the Bible.
Job 34:20 - In a moment shall they die, and the people shall be troubled at midnight, and pass away: and the mighty shall be taken away without hand.
The mighty shall be taken away without a hand. Fascinating! Are the mighty the Body of Christ being caught up by God, while those on earth are dying by a great earthquake?
Acts 16:25-34
25 And at midnight Paul and Silas prayed, and sang praises unto God: and the prisoners heard them.
26 And suddenly there was a great earthquake, so that the foundations of the prison were shaken: and immediately all the doors were opened, and every one's bands were loosed.
27 And the keeper of the prison awaking out of his sleep, and seeing the prison doors open, he drew out his sword, and would have killed himself, supposing that the prisoners had been fled.
28 But Paul cried with a loud voice, saying, Do thyself no harm: for we are all here.
29 Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas,
30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
32 And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.
33 And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.
34 And when he had brought them into his house, he set meat before them, and rejoiced, believing in God with all his house.
Interestingly, these verses mirror up with the rapture quite nicely. There is an earthquake (thinking about Revelation Seal #6), doors being opened (John saw a door being opened before him in Revelation), crying of a loud voice (God's Trumpet voice?), light (thinking about the references I've talked about with lightning and also the Body of Christ being changed into beings of light), trembling (those left behind will be scattered and tremble and have great fear), and during that time God will have taken us, presented us as pure, brought us into his house, and prepared the wedding feast for us to eat with him.
Matthew 25:6 - And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
The rapture is Jesus coming for his bride. Just as Adam's bride Eve was formed out of Adam (the 1st man), so also the Body of Christ is being formed out of Jesus (the second Adam per I Corinthians 15:45).
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Post by douwant2go2heaven on May 12, 2018 15:52:15 GMT -6
Check out some verses from Psalms 18. Might they describe the rapture? 2The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower.
3I will call upon the LORD, who is worthy to be praised: so shall I be saved from mine enemies.
4The sorrows of death compassed me, and the floods of ungodly men made me afraid.
5The sorrows of hell compassed me about: the snares of death prevented me.
6In my distress I called upon the LORD, and cried unto my God: he heard my voice out of his temple, and my cry came before him, even into his ears.
7Then the earth shook and trembled; the foundations also of the hills moved and were shaken, because he was wroth.
8There went up a smoke out of his nostrils, and fire out of his mouth devoured: coals were kindled by it.
9He bowed the heavens also, and came down: and darkness was under his feet.
10And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: yea, he did fly upon the wings of the wind.
11He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round about him were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies.
12At the brightness that was before him his thick clouds passed, hail stones and coals of fire.
13The LORD also thundered in the heavens, and the Highest gave his voice; hail stones and coals of fire.
14Yea, he sent out his arrows, and scattered them; and he shot out lightnings, and discomfited them.
15Then the channels of waters were seen, and the foundations of the world were discovered at thy rebuke, O LORD, at the blast of the breath of thy nostrils.
16He sent from above, he took me, he drew me out of many waters.
17He delivered me from my strong enemy, and from them which hated me: for they were too strong for me.
18They prevented me in the day of my calamity: but the LORD was my stay.
19He brought me forth also into a large place; he delivered me, because he delighted in me.
20The LORD rewarded me according to my righteousness; according to the cleanness of my hands hath he recompensed me.Yes it is. Psalm 18 is all about those who are alive and remain when the rapture happens. Psalm 17:15 ends with the dead in Christ rising first:
"As for me, I shall behold your face in righteousness; when I awake, I shall be satisfied with your likeness." Psalm 17:15 Those who are asleep in Christ will awake first when the trumpet sounds! And then those who are alive and remain will be caught up in the clouds to meet the LORD in the air as Psalm 18 describes. I did a youtube video on Psalm 18 here: You can go to the 46 minute mark to hear the Psalm 17 and 18 break down. Amen. |
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Post by Gary on May 17, 2018 12:03:32 GMT -6
Going back to the 5/22 Pentecost possibility, this is interesting:
Strong's 522: I lift off, I take away, remove; pass: I am taken away, withdrawn [rapture???]
From Israel's rebirth to 5/22 is 3653 weeks.
Strong's 3653: An unripe fig [Israel is the unripe fig]
From Jerusalem returning to Israel (6/7/67) to 5/22/18 is 2658 weeks.
Strong's 2658: I come down, arrive at, reach [see 1 Thess. 4:16]
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Post by klb on May 17, 2018 12:25:47 GMT -6
Going back to the 5/22 Pentecost possibility, this is interesting: Strong's 522: I lift off, I take away, remove; pass: I am taken away, withdrawn [rapture???] From Israel's rebirth to 5/22 is 3653 weeks. Strong's 3653: An unripe fig [Israel is the unripe fig] From Jerusalem returning to Israel (6/7/67) to 5/22/18 is 2658 weeks. Strong's 2658: I come down, arrive at, reach [see 1 Thess. 4:16] And a Tuesday "wedding day" at that! Interesting stuff! |
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Post by brandon on May 17, 2018 18:14:34 GMT -6
I had not thought about 5/22 much, but yes... the 22nd would be the end of the Omer day 50 Pentecost day that was started on the 21st, per how torah calendar counts from sunset to sunset. Therefore, sunset 5/21 to sunset 5/22 are both "month 3 day 6" on the spiritual calendar, right?
Thanks for sharing those Stong# findings from the major Israel events, when looking at counts of weeks!
Gary, I remember that you had also speculated 9/24/17 as being the fulfillment of Rev. 12:2, so using the same pattern of counting forward from that next day would preserve some of the other stuff that I had mentioned.
Also, the G3653 Strong's value ties together nicely with the G967 "house of unrip figs," value that I had noted as being one day after 5/21/18, when counting forward from the last blood moon in the tetrad of perfect symmetry to 5/22/18.
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Post by brandon on May 17, 2018 20:00:04 GMT -6
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Post by brandon on May 20, 2018 10:50:46 GMT -6
As someone who believes in studying the Bible from a dispensational perspective, I've always been fascinated by Jesus's quote of Isaiah in Luke 4:18.
Luke 4:18 - The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
He stops shorts of reading the whole reference, at the point where Isaiah says, "and the day of vengeance of our God;". Why? Well, in hind sight we know that the conclusion of that prophecy in Isaiah was reserved for a yet further point in time. Jesus was well aware of the mystery kept secret since the world began. His partial quote was because of the future to be revealed pause in the prophetic continuation of Israel's program; until the forming of the Body of Christ had been completed.
Isaiah 61:1-2
1 The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me; because the Lord hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;
As I've recently learned from Stephanie Dawn's website, likewise, Peter followed this same pattern on Pentecost.
Act 2:16-17
16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
Here's the full prophesied picture given in Joel.
Joel 2:28-31
28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord come.
In both instances we see a partial reference back to the prophets words and what's left out has been the day of vengeance / the great and terrible day of the Lord. Based on Peter's left out details on Pentecost, I think one can reasonably conclude that Pentecost has only been partially fulfilled, which seems interesting in light of the rapture being the next prophetic dispensational shift from the age of grace into the time of Jacob's Troubles. By Peter's words alone we have verification that the outpouring of the spirit at Pentecost is linked back to Joel. Therefore, we know that when the rest of Pentecost is fulfilled, the sun will be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord, and as mentioned a few days ago, Psalm's 18 being a picture of the rapture seems to link that sort of description back to the rapture.
What does all of this indicate? Well, the rapture appears to be linked to the fulfillment of the rest of Joel 2:30-31, which is linked to Pentecost, through the partial quote given by Peter and testified by Peter to connect back with Joel.
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Post by brandon on May 21, 2018 10:31:33 GMT -6
First, let's recall that Pentecost per torahcalendar.com is from May 21st at sunset to May 22nd at sunset. I looked up what time sunset would be in Jerusalem on the 21st and found 7:32 PM. Therefore, the day of Pentecost this year started at 7:32 PM, per how torahcalendar determines dates.
Now for the fun part, the Hebrew Strong’s word of H732 is “arach,” which means to wander, journey, go keep company with. Even cooler is that “arach” has a numeric value of 209, which is shared by a word that translates to “sojourn” and another that translates to scatter. Recall that the G190 count connected to Psalm 120:5 with “…sojourn in Mesech..” and the H967 count was connected with “disperse, to scatter.”
Also interesting is their newly found chapter locations for these 209 valued words.
The 209 valued word for “sojourn” is found in Genesis 26. (Abraham’s Promise)
The 209 valued word for “scatter” is found in Psalm 68. (Cloud references with earthquakes, wrath, judgment and Israel's deliverance)
Check them out. They’re interesting chapters.
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Post by brandon on Jun 3, 2018 10:38:59 GMT -6
Obviously we're still here. Not only did torahcalendar's day for Pentecost pass, but also 5/27/18 (possibly the real day for Pentecost?) passed by too. Well, I've got a little hope for the Essene's interpretation mixed with the Enoch calendar positioning Pentecost still out into the future, so I'm not giving up on Pentecost for this year just yet! However, I also found a few other interesting connections that someone may enjoy reading.Isaiah 45:8 Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness: let the earth open, and let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousness spring up together; I the Lord have created it.
Immediately, after the above verse, which seems to portray the resurrection, one finds a few Woe's, which in my mind just solidifies the per-tribulation rapture even more.Isaiah 45:9-109 Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands? 10 Woe unto him that saith unto his father, What begettest thou? or to the woman, What hast thou brought forth?Beget (H3205) is an interesting word. It's a word connected with child birth.
www.godrules.net/library/strongs2a/heb3205.htm
Such wording in Isaiah matches nicely with the imagery found in Revelation, which talks about the woman in labor. There are other "beget" associated words in the Bible. One that has recently caught my attention is G313.
www.godrules.net/library/strongs2b/gre313.htm
As one can see in the above link, this form of beget has a more spiritual aspect, which also has a connection to being made to have a mindset that's in line with God's will. Oh what a great day it'll be when we're fully in harmony with Jesus! Continuing on, G313 is found in only two verse locations in the Bible, which is I Peter 1:3 & I Peter 1:23. The context of the chapter is "the blessed hope" of the resurrection of the Body of Christ, who like the head, Jesus Christ, will likewise be literally reborn.
I Peter 1:3 - Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
I Peter 1:23 - Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
If you're wondering what I'm easing into with these passages, well here we go. I caught a glimpse of an interesting chart that Daniel Matson had made showing June 30th (17th day of the spiritual month, 3rd week of the month, 3rd day of the week) being 40 weeks (pregnancy duration anyone?) from the Rev. 12:2 Sign on 9/23/17.
www.facebook.com/watchfortheday/photos/pcb.1805677019494477/1805676889494490/?type=3&theater
This is the day the Jews recognize as when Moses came down from Mount Sinai and found many dancing naked and worshiping the golden calf that Aaron had made, for those who had so easily grown weary of waiting for Moses's return. It's the day Moses threw down and broke the 10 commandments that were carved into stone by the very hand of God. It's the day Moses rounded up the still faithful sons of Levi and had them kill ~3,000 people. Do you recall that 3,000 people who were saved at Pentecost? Let's also not forget that Peter only partially quoted Isaiah (seen two posts up), when he described that day fulfilling part of Isaiah's prophecy, which if fully read goes on to describe the Day of the Lord, which has yet to be fulfilled.
Basically, my thoughts are that the anniversary of the 3,000 being killed would be a fine day to trigger the completion of what Peter described as the fulfillment of Isaiah's prophecy that finishes with the Day of the Lord commencing, which per the other links I've been finding seem to suggest is the beginning of the Tribulation and also the day of the rapture.
www.torahcalendar.com/Calendar.asp?YM=Y2018M4
Interestingly enough, June 30th is also 40 days after torahcalendar.com's day for Pentecost, which they identify as May 21st 2018. If you've followed this thread, then you'll hopefully see the significance of Pentecost and how God seems to have been pointing for us to watch this date. If nothing else, 5/21/18, may have at least been the technical 70th anniversary of Israel, based on the day that their declaration of independence went into effect.
Anyways, June 30th 2018 is 313 days after the the "Great American Eclipse," which as seen above, G313 is about being born again. How very interesting! Digging deeper reveals that G313's Gematria value is 961, which is a value shared by words meaning leave, take, and arise.
Looking further at the 1st occurrence locations of those words, links back to verse references describing Jesus's resurrection, which is likewise the Body of Christ's blessed hope (Acts 3:26) and also to a woman who is weeping for her lost child (Isa. 49:21), which makes one think of Israel, the woman in Revelation, who gives birth before labor and will come to find her child has been harpazo'd away...
Edit: On a side note, Daniel Matson made another interesting chart linking to June 30th 2018. This shows 813 hours from May 27th (possibly the real day of Pentecost) to June 30th. Therefore, there's interesting connections from both of these possible Pentecost days (5/21 & 5/27) to the 17th of Tammuz. Also interesting is that 813 hours is 33.875 days and we saw approximately a 33 day gap between the Revelations 12 Sign and the Great American Eclipse.
www.facebook.com/watchfortheday/photos/pcb.1804673472928165/1804672886261557/?type=3&theater
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Post by davewatchman on Jun 3, 2018 16:47:18 GMT -6
“My beloved spake, and said unto me, Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away.
For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone;
The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle is heard in our land;
The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell.
Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away.”
- Song Of Solomon 2:10-13 (KJV)
I saw a few Youtubers posting this.
It's still Spring until June 21.
I don't see too many Youtube videos lately. I wonder if that's an indicator in and of itself?
I'm sticking to my own knitting, and keeping silent for the most part. I'm still sure that i found the "darkened" sun and can measure the 1290 days with it, among other things. But like everything else, it's time sensitive. I don't even want to say anything. I don't want to say we're close or we're far or we're this or we're that. There's too much spooky doctrine, and i don't have the right to spook the sheep.
The calendars don't bug me too much either because i'm still just counting the days. Regular 24 hour days. From an eclipse and an AofD, to a conjunction, and everything ends at the "darkened" sun and a moon that will not give it's light. The next 70 day slot is coming right up around the mountain when she comes.
And i just refreshed my Hawaii screen and she's reading 1711 earthquakes over a seven day period.
I don't know how they can get any sleep over there.
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Post by fitz on Jun 3, 2018 17:20:38 GMT -6
Hoping the Rev 12 sign was a straight up pregnancy sign. Will be especially watchful 6/20 - 6/30. It happens to be the simplest interpretation with verses 2, 4 & 5 being all about the woman giving birth.
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