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Post by BSG-Mom on Dec 8, 2017 12:42:43 GMT -6
dennislwatson PLEASE start a new thread with the 50 occurrences and its meanings....It seems pretty interesting! It will get lost in this Lazarus thread... ps, its really barbiosheepgirl hijacking mom's computer. I was showing her how to reply in the threads. I am trying to get her out of the shouutbox
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Post by dennislwatson on Dec 8, 2017 12:43:53 GMT -6
Oh, Dennis! I didn't mean to encourage you! (please take that as the joke I meant it to be  ) OK. You got the joke when I said iron sharpens iron. You actually gave me an idea that allowed me to sharpen up and make more devastating my own ... "iron". I know you didn't mean to do this, but thank you for smiling and getting it and I am so very happy you did. I have learned a lot here and I still am. Thank you Natalie. Moderators have a hard job. You do good work. There is so much to read and pay attention to. Could you imagine ME as a moderator? Hah! Oh that is gruesome. Anyway, you have a hard job. I know the kind of people you need to deal with. I mean ME by that. Blessings. Oh Natalie. Interesting thing but just keep this in mind, there have been things of a "chaotic" nature that have occurred in certain multiples of 11 (represents chaos) since the SECOND GREAT RESURRECTION SIGN OF 9/23/2017. 99 days before 12/31 the Sign itself (which caused chaos at Unsealed) 77 days before 12/31 the fires in Portugal and California were raging. 44 days before 12/31 the 44 submariners were lost on that Argentinian sub. 33 days before 12/31 there was the UN vote from hell that I think was the catalyst for Trump's message about Jerusalem. 22 days before 12/31 is tomorrow December 9. 11 days before 12/31 is December 20. If these world disasters, are occurring because God wants to get our eyes open with another confirmation, I am wondering what might happen tomorrow? Both you and I want nothing to happen. "Lord, if there is a way to avoid a disaster that causes chaos tomorrow, we ask that you provide another way to open people's eyes." Nothing seemed to happen precisely on 88 days, 77 days, or 55 days so this becomes simply a noticed pattern making tomorrow an especially interesting day to watch. It just seems there are so many powder kegs simmering in the world right now. SWRAS UPDATE...It is now December 9, in Israel. Already, the protests over Trump's action are rising to fever levels in many places over the world. Not going to call it yet but keep watching. 3 hours till sunrise in Israel. 4:54pm Pacific Time. |
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Post by yardstick on Dec 8, 2017 12:56:16 GMT -6
Using the celestial event of Sept.23 2017 as a fulfillment of Revelation 12 as the beginning day of your count for the feast of weeks culmination I find speculative but interesting. You are attempting to accurately pinpoint his sudden appearing "Harpazo" for his Church. ... Thank you Brazen for this picture. Now I understand the sign that has been referenced in a multitude of postings. It is quite brilliant. One thing that I have noticed about the signs of the times is that none are pinpoint accurate but seem to provide a shotgun effect for letting us know we are in the right generation for the climatic events to occur. For instance, Gen. 15 points to 400 years from the beginning of Israel coming to the promised land, North America. It gives the date of something like 2016, 17, 18, etc. That is, whenever Israel, the followers of Christ, settled in the new world and add 400 years. So we know that we are right on top of the event. I however think the event is the attack by the beast and the 50 days begin from that point. That is, the attack is the main event and the rapture is the Savior's response. Thus, the feast of weeks is that we need our food in our homes for 50 days. Then we go on the rapture.
Are you suggesting that Abraham was in North America at the time the 400 year prophecy was given? Has there ever been an archaeological record shown that the Amorites were in North America?biblehub.com/niv/genesis/15.htm |
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Post by dennislwatson on Dec 8, 2017 13:24:44 GMT -6
dennislwatson PLEASE start a new thread with the 50 occurrences and its meanings....It seems pretty interesting! It will get lost in this Lazarus thread... ps, its really barbiosheepgirl hijacking mom's computer. I was showing her how to reply in the threads. I am trying to get her out of the shouutbox Umm. I got in trouble for "over posting" when I first got on this site. I don't want to "over thread". My article refers to maybe between 15 and 20 Biblical examples or confirmations and "the 50 occurrences" is but one of them. Is starting again with the same information but modified to minimize confusion or highlight one of the points allowed? It is true, I think I could present the information better now. But, that creates more work, for me, for moderators. I would love to facilitate BSG-Mom or barbiosheepgirl getting into the discussion, but my love to do that would be ... kind of ameliorated... if the reason they wanted to get into the discussion was to oppose the idea I am presenting. Here is how I will test whether this is the time to start again. I will conduct a poll similar to my previous poll. If the results are about the same as the first poll, I will hang back. If the results indicate more people are really taking a look at the Leviticus 23:15 & 16 count from THE SECOND GREAT RESURRECTION SIGN OF 9/23/2017 I will ask the moderators for suggestions as to whether I should or could do anything. How's that? I will do that today as moderators have already indicated it would be OK to post another poll and the day I proposed for it was today, the day before December 9. Thank you for asking. I mean for me, your request alone is really encouraging...I think... Blessings. SWRAS |
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Post by mike on Dec 8, 2017 14:05:30 GMT -6
Dennis,
you dont need permission to start a new thread to discuss a new topic.
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Post by dennislwatson on Dec 8, 2017 16:00:57 GMT -6
Dennis, you dont need permission to start a new thread to discuss a new topic. That's the problem mike. It is not a new topic. It is the same topic, the 50s is just one of the 20 or so confirmations of Scripture in my article. I will think about it. I just posted the second poll so I want to see if people here are more interested in this or less. If less then I am praying and asking God to show me where I should, or if I should spend more time on this. Blessings brother. |
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Post by dennislwatson on Dec 8, 2017 16:14:47 GMT -6
Here is what I did! I simply proposed an end of the Pentecost Season count from the SECOND GREAT REVELATION SIGN OF 9/23/2017. This has made some of you suspect that I am borderline crazy. Read this article and I will prove to you that I am. VIEWING A RESURRECTION.pdf (745.83 KB) |
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Dec 8, 2017 19:05:03 GMT -6
HI Dennis, this is Babs in real life now. And commenting as "reader barbiosheepgirl".. You said Why is fifty used so much by God? 138 times in Scripture.
That is the topic I was excited about, not necessarily that the number 50 is tied to your explanations regarding "the Leviticus 23:15 & 16 count from THE SECOND GREAT RESURRECTION SIGN OF 9/23/2017
" I have become fascinated by Biblical numbers because of the past few intense years of watching. DIdnt know that the Bible had all these interesting Biblical number things. The topic of the number 50 can stand alone as a thread. And, it could be not many even comment, but read and learn what you have found out about 50. Some others may have stuff to contribute. Does that make sense? Mom and I are in stitches reading your posts on this thread and the lively language you have.. You seem to be pure Otter from the personality categories of Gary Smalley...
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Post by boraddict on Dec 8, 2017 19:53:07 GMT -6
Thank you Brazen for this picture. Now I understand the sign that has been referenced in a multitude of postings. It is quite brilliant. One thing that I have noticed about the signs of the times is that none are pinpoint accurate but seem to provide a shotgun effect for letting us know we are in the right generation for the climatic events to occur. For instance, Gen. 15 points to 400 years from the beginning of Israel coming to the promised land, North America. It gives the date of something like 2016, 17, 18, etc. That is, whenever Israel, the followers of Christ, settled in the new world and add 400 years. So we know that we are right on top of the event. I however think the event is the attack by the beast and the 50 days begin from that point. That is, the attack is the main event and the rapture is the Savior's response. Thus, the feast of weeks is that we need our food in our homes for 50 days. Then we go on the rapture.
Are you suggesting that Abraham was in North America at the time the 400 year prophecy was given? Has there ever been an archaeological record shown that the Amorites were in North America?biblehub.com/niv/genesis/15.htmHi Yardstick, I was looking at Gen. Chapter 15 as a type of the 400-year enslavement of Israel and their nation being freed during the time of Moses, and secondly as the type of our time in which the followers of Christ settled in Jamestown approx. 1600 or a little after. We in turn, their children, are captive by the system in which we live and will be freed upon the return of Christ. The time is approximately 400 years. I do not understand the "fourth generation" reference in the verse and it may have some significance to the number 4 that is repeated in scripture. I am not suggesting that Abraham was in North America but only that the prophecy was a dual prophecy not only pertaining to the time of Moses but also to the latter days. Also, I do not understand the reference to "here"; however, if here means the earth then the prophecy to which I am referring might mean that the rapture from the earth lasts four generations. That, however, is a big leap. Just exactly how long those raptured are taken from the earth is not something that I have investigated. It does seem that 400 years is much longer than four generations and four generations is much longer than the 40 years between Moses leaving Egypt and Israel crossing the Jordon River. So I do not know the answer. However, Abraham was never in North America. |
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Post by dennislwatson on Dec 8, 2017 19:54:34 GMT -6
HI Dennis, this is Babs in real life now. And commenting as "reader barbiosheepgirl".. You said Why is fifty used so much by God? 138 times in Scripture. That is the topic I was excited about, not necessarily that the number 50 is tied to your explanations regarding "the Leviticus 23:15 & 16 count from THE SECOND GREAT RESURRECTION SIGN OF 9/23/2017 " I have become fascinated by Biblical numbers because of the past few intense years of watching. DIdnt know that the Bible had all these interesting Biblical number things. The topic of the number 50 can stand alone as a thread. And, it could be not many even comment, but read and learn what you have found out about 50. Some others may have stuff to contribute. Does that make sense? Mom and I are in stitches reading your posts on this thread and the lively language you have.. You seem to be pure Otter from the personality categories of Gary Smalley... Well, I remember a bit about that Smalley animal thing but I don't know if this Otter thing is good or bad. I do know my late wife told me I was a "winter". |
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Post by krnboitae on Dec 8, 2017 21:22:32 GMT -6
Mr. Watson,
Do you think below bible verses numbers are coincidence?
I had these verses on my original post. At first, I didnt think much of it and thought it was coincidence
But I now think it is significant.
25x2=50 days (Pentecost count)
33x3=99 days (Rev 12 virgo count)
It is the glory of God to conceal a matter; to search out a matter is the glory of kings.
Proverbs 25:2
Call to me and I will answer you and tell you great and unsearchable things you do not know
Jeremiah 33:3
I believe God really answered me. Praise God.
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Post by witness1 on Dec 8, 2017 22:20:01 GMT -6
If you also feel my position is attempting to put you under law please let me know. Thanks. Then I know I will need to address it. As far as the count goes, if you are blessed enough to do it, you SHALL do it right if you want the blessing. If you don't do it the way it was commanded it won't make sense. Blessings. Soon we will rise and shine and become joyous and of one accord. Can’t come too soon in my apparently intolerant, prideful, and unrespectful opinion. Those characteristics are not in my heart. I am really sorry you think those things are there they are not. I never got that impression Dennis. I get the impression that you really feel the Spirit is illuminating something to you that is beautiful and encouraging and you want to share it with others. I get the impression that we misunderstood your personality in the beginning due to the nature of written communication as well as other people on this forum who have been dogmatic and proud in their views and left a bad taste behind. I personally am sorry for mischaracterizing you and ask your forgiveness. You have been a great encouragement to me and I am grateful for you. And I agree that we should discuss the SCRIPTURE you are basing your theory on. I read Exodus this morning and would love to steer the conversation that direction as to whether there is a precedent for believing the Pentecost count should be 7 sabbaths and then 50 days. With Dennis and Paul Dawson both presenting the same theory of Dec 31, which is also what I personally had been wondering with the super moon trilogy, I feel like it makes sense to try to flesh this out. Does the scripture back this claim? I think it does! I will share soon! |
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Post by witness1 on Dec 8, 2017 22:21:00 GMT -6
Mr. Watson, Do you think below bible verses numbers are coincidence? I had these verses on my original post. At first, I didnt think much of it and thought it was coincidence But I now think it is significant. 25x2=50 days (Pentecost count) 33x3=99 days (Rev 12 virgo count) It is the glory of God to conceal a matter; to search out a matter is the glory of kings. Proverbs 25:2 Call to me and I will answer you and tell you great and unsearchable things you do not know Jeremiah 33:3 I believe God really answered me. Praise God. I confess I find this interesting! |
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Post by yardstick on Dec 8, 2017 22:54:54 GMT -6
Are you suggesting that Abraham was in North America at the time the 400 year prophecy was given? Has there ever been an archaeological record shown that the Amorites were in North America?biblehub.com/niv/genesis/15.htmHi Yardstick, I was looking at Gen. Chapter 15 as a type of the 400-year enslavement of Israel and their nation being freed during the time of Moses, and secondly as the type of our time in which the followers of Christ settled in Jamestown approx. 1600 or a little after. We in turn, their children, are captive by the system in which we live and will be freed upon the return of Christ. The time is approximately 400 years. I do not understand the "fourth generation" reference in the verse and it may have some significance to the number 4 that is repeated in scripture. I am not suggesting that Abraham was in North America but only that the prophecy was a dual prophecy not only pertaining to the time of Moses but also to the latter days. Also, I do not understand the reference to "here"; however, if here means the earth then the prophecy to which I am referring might mean that the rapture from the earth lasts four generations. That, however, is a big leap. Just exactly how long those raptured are taken from the earth is not something that I have investigated. It does seem that 400 years is much longer than four generations and four generations is much longer than the 40 years between Moses leaving Egypt and Israel crossing the Jordon River. So I do not know the answer. However, Abraham was never in North America. May I suggest the following with respect to the Genesis passage we have been discussing: 1. God spoke to Abraham, prophesying to him that his descendants, the Israelites would be in Egypt for 400~ years (they actually spent 430 - not all of it as slaves - Ex 12:40). 2. The entire book of Exodus is related to the prophecy: The Israelites enslaved (Gen 15:13); the plagues visited upon Egypt when the Pharaoh would not free them, the creation of the Passover feast and their 'exodus' with all their wealth (vs 14); and also the peaceful death of Abraham in the latter part of Genesis (vs 15). 3. In Verse 16, God says that the 4th generation of Abraham's descendants will return 'here', where 'here' is the place where the Abraham is currently (in the scene) talking with God. The translational wording in this part, related to 4 generations, is a bit clumsy as you will see below. By inference, the land of the Amorites is where Abraham is located at the time of the prophecy. In verse 18 we see the land grant given to Abraham by God: from the wadi of Egypt to the river Euphrates (not Jordan River!). Verse 19 describes the groups of people who live in the land, including the Amorites. 4. It appears that the 4 generations referred to by God in Gen 15:16 are those generations which were enslaved (4 x 80 biblical years = 320 years) We know that Jacob lived to be 147 and came to Egypt when he was 130, living in Egypt 17 years before he died: Gen 47:28We know that Joseph was 39 years old when his father and family (the entire population of the Israelites) came to Egypt (there were a total of 14 years in Pharaoh's dream he interpreted - 7 of abundance and 7 of famine). 30 y/o +7 abundant years + 2 famine years = 39 Gen 45:11Gen 41:46We know that Joseph lived to be 110: Genesis 50:22Therefore, since Joseph was 39 when his family came to Egypt; and he lived to be 110, the Israelites were living in Egypt 71 years before they were enslaved for 4 generations (inferred mathematically). If a generation of 80 biblical years is used, 4 x 80 = 320 years. 320 (4 generations) + 71 = 391 years. Assuming the 'clock' started when Joseph was 39; there is a 39 year discrepancy which can be explained by discounting any 'partial generations' (less than 80 years) from the 4 generation count; so that the Israelites spent 430 actual years, but only 4 'full' generations in Egypt. The two partial generations (at the beginning, and at the end) are 'rounded down', since they are both 39, which is less than half of a full generation (80). The 5th generation would be aged 0-39. |
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Post by dennislwatson on Dec 8, 2017 23:01:47 GMT -6
Witness1 - I don't think you would have asked that question if you would have started reading at page 32 of my article and you would have read this...
"11. OUR LOVING CONCEALING, SOVEREIGN AND OMNISCIENT GOD KNEW WHAT DATE WOULD OCCUR AFTER THE COUNT FROM THE END OF THE SECOND GREAT RESURRECTION SIGN of September 23, 2017 and may have given us hints.
Psalm 123:1King James Version (KJV)
123 1 Unto thee lift I up mine eyes, O thou that dwellest in the heavens.
Note 12/31 in the verse number. “I lift up mine eyes” No wonder Jesus told us to Look Up when we see that our redemption is near because of all the signs in geopolitics, in Isreal, in technology, in culture, etc. “O thou that dwellest in the heavens.” The word dwellest in other translations is “sits enthroned”. Saints we are truly going to the place where God dwellest, but where he dwellest is at the throne. Need I remind you of Revelation 12:5? Harpadzoed to the Throne?
Come on Saints. You are going to suggest to me that this is an accident. Hah! It is if this is not the date. Teddy Kim on Unsealed gave us this idea and then I looked up the verses. Here they are. Do you see any clues? Any hints? I do. Some for the Saints, some for the left behind, some about the Prince of the Power of the Air who will be cast down.
This is not the way that I usually do Bible study, but this watching for the day of the rapture, then finding a substantial clue in the Leviticus 23:15 & 16 count allows me to study ideas that I would not normally deal with. Leads me to even suggest this. We are at the end. Not the end of the Bible. We will enjoy that forever. We continue here seeking God’s Word. We have an omniscient, omnipotent God who reigns over everything with His sovereignty. INCLUDING the division of His Word.
Exodus 12:31
“And he called for Moses and Aaron by night, and said, Rise up, and get you forth from among my people, both ye and the children of Israel; and go, serve the LORD, as ye have said.
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Did you see it? Rise up!!!! That’s what I am talking about!!!
Deuteronomy 12:31
“Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God: for every abomination to the LORD, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods.”
2 Samuel 12:31
“And he brought forth the people that were therein, and put them under saws, and under harrows of iron, and under axes of iron, and made them pass through the brickkiln: and thus did he unto all the cities of the children of Ammon. So David and all the people returned unto Jerusalem.”
1 Kings 12:31 JEROBOAM’S EVIL REIGN – 2 CALVES
“And he made an house of high places, and made priests of the lowest of the people, which were not of the sons of Levi.”
1 Chronicles 12:31
“And of the half tribe of Manasseh eighteen thousand, which were expressed by name, to come and make David king.”
Nehemiah 12:31
“Then I brought up the princes of Judah upon the wall, and appointed two great companies of them that gave thanks, whereof one went on the right hand upon the wall toward the dung gate:”
Psalms 123:1
“(A Song of Ascents.) Unto thee lift I up mine eyes, O thou that dwellest in the heavens.”
Matthew 12:31
“Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.”
Luke 12:31
“But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you.”
John 12:31
“Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.”
1 Corinthians 12:31
“But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.”
Saints! I don’t know about you, but I am ready for a more excellent way.
I wish I had years to preach on these verses. However, this particular article has a very severe “half-life”. It is either true and we are out of here at the end of THIS MONTH, OR, my conclusion is incorrect and it, and I will fade away. Hah, I just realized I am going away one way or the other.
I don’t know what you think you will be doing in the Kingdom. I want to continue to teach. So Lord, if you are liking this article, “May I preach about those verses in the kingdom?” Amen."
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