Damascus - Events and Prophecies

Damascus is a hard subject for me. Her fall has already taken place; however, to be completely fallen is for the government to be destroyed. Thus, we are waiting for the fall of the Syrian government, and how does that happen with Russia there shoring her up? For me, that is the real question. Thus, we should see a change in Syria sometime soon. Just exactly how that happens is a mystery; except to say that Damascus "shall be a ruinous heap" (Isa. 17:1).

When you factor in Psalms 83:9 then the chapter seems to indicate that the fall of Damascus is the result of the 144,000, after the rapture. However, the Psalm does not say that the fall of Damascus is like that of Gideon, but that it is hoped to be like that of Gideon. Thus, the fall must come before the rapture as indicated by the chronological order of Isa. Chapters 17, 18, and 19. That is, Damascus falls (17) and then Russia attacks the U. S. (18) then the U. S. Civil war (19).

Thus, it appears that Russia blames the U. S. for the fall of Damascus. That is perhaps their reason for attacking the U. S, in Isa. 18.

Thus, what events would transpire causing the U. S. to attack Damascus and more appropriately stated, what could transpire for one of her protectorates to attack Damascus. Russia knows that to attack a protectorate is to attack the U. S. directly. So why attack the protectorate? They simply attack the U. S. when Damascus falls.

The only thing that makes sense is that a treaty violation causes Israel to respond. 

For me it is easy to see the chiasmus in the chapter. The center is Verse 9 and like I said it appears to be a request. The first parallel seems to break at Verse 83:12 and correspondingly at Verse 83:3. Thus the first parallel appears to be Verses 83:10-12 to Verses 83:3-8. This leaves for the second parallel Verses 83:1-2 to 83:13-18. 

Thus, the ones that hate Lord Jesus have lifted up the head (83:2). The head is the beast of Rev. Chapter 13; thus, in my opinion Psalms 83 is more so about the crushing defeat of the beast after his 3.5 year reign. 

I did not know that until just now as I worked it through. So in my opinion Psalms 83 is not about the fall of Damascus but the destruction of the beast after his 3.5 year reign. 

Having said that, the fact remains that Damascus falls first.

Which of the areas below does the beast come from?



Jordan



Gaza Strip



Lebanon



Turkey





Jordan is out because it is in line with the allied west.

Gaza is out because it holds little world power.

Lebanon is in; however, like Gaza it holds little influence on the world stage.

Thus, my vote is for Turkey. It is perfectly situated to act in the name of the European powers including Russia.

Post Script: It is interesting that Turkey is where the C. church began. That is, correct me if I am wrong; but, did not the C church begin under Constantine, in Constantinople. How interesting is that? Have we come full circle? I remember  parts of a dream that I had years ago that finance was stabilized in Turkey under the direction of the Pope. Wow! I had already summarized that Francis was our man because of the 666 thing; however, I had no idea that he came out of Turkey. I could be way off on this; however, since that man is the one who calls out the beast. Thus, the beast would logically come out of Turkey.


It makes perfect sense.  To me at least. Thus, it seems that Turkey who was once our quasi friend but now has capitulated towards Russia becomes the instrument of the beast. Thus, the beast arises in Turkey.  That does not necessarily mean that the beast is from Turkey, but he arises upon the world scene from there. 

I had no idea that Turkey played this major role. I guess now we should watch for Francis warming up to Turkey and whoever becomes his contact there. They will be two anti-Christs in a pod. You know, two peas in a pod.

Are you referring to conquest, decline, or complete destruction of the physical city?

Isaiah 17 I believe, after listening to Christian commentators on the world's condition, and those every once in a while military rumors, about weapons having been buried throughout the city, and the end product of Isaiah 17 which suggests it is so destroyed it is no longer inhabitable, I am thinking we are anticipating perhaps Israel's use of new and horrendously powerful weapons that we may not quite know of yet. The weapon has to be powerful enough to destroy underground bunkers on a huge scale AND not cause deadly fallout to the nation to the west. Think scalar, think directed energy, (thanks 9/11) we don't even know what has been cooked up in the last 50 years, but Isaiah 17 will be fulfilled and shortly and it is hard to think that destruction will bring God glory but His Word says it and so we wait for the "hammer." May God's Word remain true.

The following is from my own analysis and therefore my personal opinion.

To answer your questions I must first establish the five fallen kings of Rev. 17:10. These are more correctly referenced as fallen kingdoms from the previous verse, Rev. 17:9. That is, the seven heads (of governments) are seven mountains (kingdoms). The fact that the woman sits upon all seven is beside the point and merely shows that the woman does not sit upon the eighth kingdom in Rev. 17:11.

Thus, there are at the time of the rise of the beast in Rev. 13:1, seven fallen kingdoms. However, for my point here I am establishing the first five fallen kingdoms and these are given in Dan. Chapter 2. And they are: Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome, and the nations of the world. This becomes easier to see when the Book of Daniel is understood to be the Book of Judah in Captivity. Thus, Judah is captured in Chapter 1, and freed in Chapter 12. Thus, you can see that Chapters 1 and 12 are the last parallel in the Book of Daniel chiasmus.

Of the five fallen kingdoms, Judah was captured by Babylon who was conquered by Persia, who was conquered by Greece, who was conquered by Rome, and from there Judah was captive in the nations of the world.

The sixth kingdom to preside over Judah was the United Nations and as you know this governmental body gave Judah her homeland back in 1948. Thus, the United Nations "is" kingdom number six in Rev. 17:10. Interestingly, this kingdom is a major player in the rise of the seventh kingdom and this is addressed in Dan. Chapter 7. "I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn" (Dan. 7:8). That is, I considered the sixth kingdom, the United Nations, and there came up among them another little government. This little government claims to have "eyes." That is, this little government can only see as a man sees and not as a prophet sees. Thus this little horn is a false prophet.

In Rev. Chapter 13, this false prophet (Rev. 13:11) brings forth the Verse 13:1 beast. That is, he causes the world to worship the image of the beast. Again; he causes the world to worship the beast (2) of the beast (1). That is, beast 1 is in Rev. 17:3 and beast (2) is in Verse 13:1. Beast 1, the false prophet (Rev. 17:3), causes the rise of beast 2 (Rev. 13:1). This information is given in the angel's explanation, Rev. 17:7-18.

The false prophet is shown to us in the Rev. 13:18 riddle. Since the false prophet claims to be the leader of Christ's church then we must begin with 400. However, since he is a false prophet then 400 must be subtracted from 666 leaving 266 and this is the number of Pope Francis according to the Catholic church.

The question then is how does Francis cause the rise of the beast. It was my summation that he becomes involved in finance and more particularly the finance of Turkey, and as an outgrowth of that work that he causes the rise of the beast. Thus, Francis rises as the seventh kingdom beast as a result of his work in Turkey. Immediately afterwards he causes the rise of the eighth kingdom beast. That is what I meant when I said "he came out of Turkey."

In order for Francis to cause the rise of the beast he must reorganize the United Nations. He does this by destroying three major players and again this is in Dan. Chapter 7. These three kingdoms are: Great Britain (Dan. 7:4), Germany (Dan. 7:6), and Russia (Dan. 7:5). Francis uses the power of Russia to cause the rise of the beast (Dan. 7:7), Russia. Thus, one of its heads was wounded to death and yet lived (Rev. 13:3). The larger question is who is this person that coordinates with Francis in Turkey to overthrow the current Russian Government.

With regard to Jordan, they had their bombers attacking ISIS along side the U. S. and other allied nations. I do not know the extent of their participation but they are not on the side of Iran and Russia. 

Can you clarify the information about the 144,000, please?

I see two references in Revelation for them: Rev 7:1-8 and Rev 14:1-5.

Ch 7 clearly shows the sealing of the 144,000 (12,000 from each of 12 tribes of Israel); and Ch 14 clearly shows (vs 1) the second coming, where Christ is standing on the Mount Zion, with the 144,000 around him. 

I cannot find any other scriptural references to the group referred to in these two passages.

Verse 1 of Chapter 14, which describes Jesus on Mount Zion, appears to clearly show the second coming after He has arrived. This is well established as occurring at the end of the Great Tribulation (the end of the last 3-1/2 years of the Tribulation) from a premillennial viewpoint.

Although I cannot find any specific reference in the above passages to what the 144,000 actually do, it is a commonly held belief that they are witnesses during the tribulation. What passages of scripture clearly show them as warriors?

Lol boraddict, thanks for the chuckle! yardstick is the nerd of nerds 😂