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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2017 9:29:23 GMT -6
^^^ LOL I have been seriously contemplating referring to this thread as the MLK thread... just saying...  ?? I must have missed something. The title of the thread is "I had a dream". Its similar to MLK's famous I Have a Dream speech. |
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Post by watchmanjim on Oct 12, 2017 10:23:33 GMT -6
?? I must have missed something. The title of the thread is "I had a dream". Its similar to MLK's famous I Have a Dream speech. Oh yea, I gotcha. LOL. |
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Post by watchmanjim on Oct 12, 2017 10:26:00 GMT -6
One thing we would sometimes do as kids to be funny was to start out saying dramatically:
"I--have--a dream."
And then get this confused look on our face, and say,
"Well. . . . I HAD a dream. . . ."
As if we couldn't remember now what the dream was about.
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Post by MissusMack08 on Oct 12, 2017 10:26:17 GMT -6
^^^ LOL I have been seriously contemplating referring to this thread as the MLK thread... just saying... ?? I must have missed something. You have to be on the same Theta wave to understand the humor in this thread 😉 (Which has completely derailed the thread...) |
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Post by watchmanjim on Oct 12, 2017 10:27:54 GMT -6
?? I must have missed something. You have to be on the same Theta wave to understand the humor in this thread 😉 (Which has completely derailed the thread...) Oh, ok, I think I'm back up and running now, I got my thromdimbulator combobulating smoothly once again! |
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Post by tiffanybw on Oct 13, 2017 5:09:14 GMT -6
Wow. That's a very heavy dream. Thank you so much for sharing it. Heavy is a very good way to describe it. Heavy in so many ways... I know more than the basics of the Bible, but not a whole lot. Some of you guys just blow me away with what you know. I have been studying and reading a ton over the last few months and still feel like I have just scratched the surface. I am now wondering and thinking about what is this and what does it mean? What is going on in my head lol? Is my very active imagination just really winding up at night? Is there a reason for this? Am I supposed to do something? Am I not doing enough? I could go on and on with what goes through my mind about this and my first dream. I haven't finished reading this thread yet; but I also have had extremely vivid dreams. It's been happening since around 2014 (not sure)? Dreams that seem more real than when I am awake and going about day to day life. Some of them I think have been demonic attack (but that Jesus was allowing it to happen to me to convict me, and so I would then repent and get the sin out of my life). Some of my dreams have been like yours, where I feel like I am fighting a battle. I know who it is I am fighting, Satan. And I know who I am fighting for, God. I don't know that the exact scenarios we dream about, if those exact things will happen. But I do think similar things will. I think that it is The Holy Spirit preparing our hearts for what is to come. I have no answers; such as will Harpazo happen first, or not? Or where exactly we will be (in Israel, in a destroyed USA that has now become a "wilderness" and that God uses to protect the 144,000, and just so many other thoughts and potential scenario's that go through my mind). What I believe for sure, is that we are going to be used by God, each and every one of us who belongs to Jesus. |
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Post by watchmanjim on Oct 15, 2017 6:58:23 GMT -6
I think some of these dreams are not so much prophetic, as they are real-time in the other dimension. That is to say, sometimes, we are actually embroiled in real spiritual warfare with the enemy NOW while we dream it. This is why I have had to learn to fight back IN my dream rather than fight to exit sleep. Fighting back without relying on the power of God is a no-go--you have to call out on the name of Jesus, or at least rely on God's power in one way or another, I think, to actively contribute to the fight. I could be off, but that's what I've found with my own dreams. Sometimes the enemy is sent packing before I can wake up. Other times it results in me waking up.
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Post by tiffanybw on Oct 15, 2017 8:38:44 GMT -6
I think some of these dreams are not so much prophetic, as they are real-time in the other dimension. That is to say, sometimes, we are actually embroiled in real spiritual warfare with the enemy NOW while we dream it. This is why I have had to learn to fight back IN my dream rather than fight to exit sleep. Fighting back without relying on the power of God is a no-go--you have to call out on the name of Jesus, or at least rely on God's power in one way or another, I think, to actively contribute to the fight. I could be off, but that's what I've found with my own dreams. Sometimes the enemy is sent packing before I can wake up. Other times it results in me waking up. Thank you for posting this. This is exactly how I feel! Also where you say that you have had to learn to "fight". Me too! I think that is part of what God was doing with me, back in 2015 when I literally thought I was losing my mind because EVERY TIME I went to sleep (literally, and there was NO break from it), horrible demonic attack would happen. It's unexplainable to anyone who hasn't experienced it for themselves. The only thing I can say about it is that it is not like a normal dream at all. Also, it is more REAL than the real life I live each and every day here on this earth (wake up, get dressed, go to work, etc...). It is way more real than that, probably shouldn't even be called a dream; but just that dream is the closest word I know to describe it. As I look back upon the really scary part of it though back in 2015, just that I couldn't see it then, but now I can; and I can see it was God teaching me how to fight (that which is spiritual evil). In addition, it was Him preparing my spirit to be ready to take on these evil things. Everyone has a "big one", pertaining to some sin in their life. For some it is pride. Or could be sexual confusion (gay or straight), gender confusion, drugs, idol worship, money, power, or a million other things. For me, my "big one" was alcohol. Because of my past, and even my present... all of the hurt, abuse, dysfunction, or whatever one wants to define it as that really and when thinking about it... It does exist to one degree or another in each and every one of our lives... Reason it does is because there is still sin in this world and this world is still very fallen right now. Due to that, we ALL; to one degree or another; we suffer and are persecuted by others. When I was little, I used to literally try and make myself "disappear". I was dumb, just a kid, thought maybe I really would if I prayed hard enough or tried hard enough.  Then came my teen years, and REBELLION. I think it is different for everyone, but for me it lasted all the way up until I was 34/35 years old. (The two numbers, because it isn't like some Christians make it out to be... like POOF!... and one is changed and perfect and delivered from all sin.) It was a slow process. The one sin I had problems giving up and repenting on, was alcohol. Because since my teen years I had used it as a "crutch". It was my magic way of disappearing. Of checking out from life and reality for awhile, I guess. Each and every person has a "big one". Alcohol was mine. Even after I intentionally started following Jesus, it was so hard for me to give up. I turned to it, instead of turning to Jesus. I've talked about it in other posts and so won't go into it any further but to say that God Delivered and Healed me!  It wasn't easy though. At all. And it required me giving my each and every last cell, each and every portion of my sinful DNA, and just everything... to Him. And it required trusting Him completely. And so, everything about this "life"; it is like a "boot camp". Training. Only I do believe we are at the end of the Age of Grace. And so those of us who belong to Jesus, in addition to the normal training; we are also getting the... I don't know... The Navy Seal version of training. Because we are "God's Special Forces". Not because we are special. But because it just happens that we are alive right now during this time which is the end of The Age of Grace. And so God is training us to FIGHT! Because the physical and the spiritual is blurring and this is due to the veil dying (I talked about this in another of my posts, the veil dying and Jesus being the only way through the veil, the only way we won't burn to a crisp once the veil is completely removed by God.) Because in the Millennium, I believe that the physical and the spiritual will all reside together and in the same "realm". So, as it says in the Bible, God will be our only LIGHT (our sun, our moon, our stars). We won't have need anymore of the other that is currently in place and IMO, it is part of the current "veil" that separates us from God (and only for our own good because if it wasn't there we would be looking up at God Himself and because of our corrupted DNA that has been since Adam and Eve we would not survive and we would burn up because we are not worthy for God to look upon). Unless, one knows Jesus! He is the Only Way to be made Worthy. Awesome post, Brother! |
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Post by cwood85 on Oct 15, 2017 17:40:30 GMT -6
I think some of these dreams are not so much prophetic, as they are real-time in the other dimension. That is to say, sometimes, we are actually embroiled in real spiritual warfare with the enemy NOW while we dream it. This is why I have had to learn to fight back IN my dream rather than fight to exit sleep. Fighting back without relying on the power of God is a no-go--you have to call out on the name of Jesus, or at least rely on God's power in one way or another, I think, to actively contribute to the fight. I could be off, but that's what I've found with my own dreams. Sometimes the enemy is sent packing before I can wake up. Other times it results in me waking up. Very awesome analysis!!! Yes, that is exactly how I felt in the dream, like I was fighting and at first, something way beyond my power and comprehension. The destruction and pain I saw in the first part was like nothing I have ever experienced. The people around me were absolutely terrified, but at the same time I got a sense that whatever had happened to the city I saw in ruins and on fire, had not just happened. It had been that way. Everyone was wide eyed and on high alert. I did not directly call out on Jesus, but I did rely on Him and stood by his cross. That I did yell at Satan, which is why he tried to destroy it, and then me. I jerked each time that gun fired and it was like it was in slow motion, waiting for the bullet to come out on the next shot. His face became more twisted after each fire and no bullet. He was enraged, I felt it in every bone in my body. But after the last shot and no bullet, he was terrified and defeated. Boy, I hope I am not in a real spiritual battle with Satan 😳 |
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Post by whatif on Oct 15, 2017 19:37:49 GMT -6
I think some of these dreams are not so much prophetic, as they are real-time in the other dimension. That is to say, sometimes, we are actually embroiled in real spiritual warfare with the enemy NOW while we dream it. This is why I have had to learn to fight back IN my dream rather than fight to exit sleep. Fighting back without relying on the power of God is a no-go--you have to call out on the name of Jesus, or at least rely on God's power in one way or another, I think, to actively contribute to the fight. I could be off, but that's what I've found with my own dreams. Sometimes the enemy is sent packing before I can wake up. Other times it results in me waking up. Thank you, watchmanjim! What you just said has clicked in my head and seems to be a great explanation for some recent dreams I've had. |
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Post by watchmanjim on Oct 16, 2017 9:24:25 GMT -6
The Navy Seal version of the training--I like that!
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Post by kjs on Oct 21, 2017 7:44:44 GMT -6
I had the strangest dream last night / this morning.....
Warning it is most likely a "Bad Pizza Dream" .....
I was with a friend who I knew was a Christian and we were in a park or the countryside .....
When suddenly a man appears before us and says come on it is time to go.....
The man does not look like any picture I have seen of Jesus, but we both know that is who it is.....
Jesus touches us both and suddenly we are flying.....
(Will pause here to say from this point in the dream onward any time I mention a conversation, it is done not through mouth or ears, but simply through some sort of sudden understanding)
so so we are flying through the air and we come upon this huge machine, it kind of reminds me of a wheat harvester, with a huge wheel in front of it. But it was huge, like a five story building.
Jesus tells us to hang on to this bar in the front of the machine. So we all do, hang onto the machine - when suddenly something like a Missile flys in from the side and hits the machine and a huge explosion takes place. Parts of the machine are flying every which way, and a huge wave of fire flashes all around us. Next thing I knew we (Jesus, my friend, and I) are simply floating in the air in front of this wrecked machine. Jesus says the first thing you need to learn is nothing can hurt you, while you are in this mode.
Jesus then says come on we got to go, and we start flying again .... We are flying so fast the ground is nothing more than a blur.
We come to a huge building built into a mountain side. Jesus says I will leave you here. Go into the building, learn all you can, and find and bring out your brother ... We will meet the two of you later and the Jesus and my Friend are gone.
I fly up to the building and try to climb onto one of the walls, and discover myself going through the wall.
There are hundreds of people in the building and the language they are speaking was unknown to me ... But I was understanding them just fine.
I wander up and down the halls, listening on conversations. Suddenly, one conversation catches my attention and I hear one say - You see it has to happen Halloween Morning - Here look at the moon.... And they gather around a chart. I float up and look at the chart in their hands. It shows a colored moon with the bottom portion lite - reminds me of the dream works icon where the boy is fishing while sitting on the moon.
The next thing I know a man is walking down the hall, and I hear that is your brother - go toward him.
I head toward him and just before I reach him - three men in uniforms surround him and pull him down another hallway.
I come up to the group, and I can tell my brother is very nervous. The men are talking very sternly too him, reminding him of a critical deadline.
The men stop talking and turn walk away. My brother is very scared and slightly angry. I try to talk to him. He pauses like he senses me, but otherwise no response from him. He walks down the hall toward a window. He stops at the window and I reach out and touch his shoulder. He loudly grasps and turns toward me. I say I have to get you out of here.
Suddenly sirens are heard and suddenly soldiers are running down the hall toward us. I grab his arm and pull him toward the window. As soon as I touch the window a huge flash of light happens.
At that point I woke up with my heart beating a mile a minute, gasping for air.
Does it mean anything .... Or just a bad pizza dream.....
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Post by mike on Oct 21, 2017 8:26:08 GMT -6
Almost sounds like you fell asleep watching the matrix kjs. Not sure what it means, maybe someone can interpret |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2017 9:40:20 GMT -6
The building in your dream and the fact that language stood out to you reminded me of the Tower of Babel for some reason.
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Post by gkp on Oct 21, 2017 9:44:17 GMT -6
Hi kjs, sounds like you had a busy night! It is so hard to tell others about a dream because we experience them on a level deeper than words can accurately express. My feelings about your dream therefore are limited to what you could convey with words only and may not be accurate in helping you understand. It seems to me that you are processing a number of issues that occupy a lot of your waking hours. Unresolved things. Your hopes and dreams of the rapture influenced and shaken by all the articles and posts expressing a universe of ideas. Your own personal understanding of who Jesus is and how you relate to Him and what He expects from you. Your relationship with you own brother. With these things in the forefront of your thoughts, and no clear resolution to them, it is natural to take them to bed with you and create a stage in which the struggle for clarity and resolution is continued. I know my mind takes a bit of this and a bit of that and then places me in a world where I wrestle with situations at night. Watchmanjim mentioned this in an earlier message on this thread. He is so right!
There may be more prophetic reasons for your dream than this and it is your dream. You can ask Jesus for help in understanding or maybe even adding to if there is a meaning that might help your brothers and sisters in Christ. In the meantime I will pray that Jesus would give you peace and rest both during the day and at night as well. In Him we safely trust.
I re-read my post and realized I may have implied you had a problem. So sorry- I did not mean that. I believe we can only do so much and the rest is out of our hands. Our Lord is keeping the date of His return to Himself it seems like, your relationship with your brother is a two way street and you can only do or say so much, and our relationship with Jesus is never finished. Always learning and trying our best. Thanks for letting me offer these thoughts. Wish we could meet and talk in person.
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?? I must have missed something.
