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Post by nana on Oct 6, 2017 14:13:59 GMT -6
Have to go to work, this will be short, more later.... Every 3 year period has one leap year, which always leads to 1260 days. There are two 3 year periods with two leap years, as shown by the blue numbers in each 3 year sequence above. The prophetic year of 360 days is not the basis for the Metonic Cycle. Converting the lunar year of 354.36 days to the solar calendar of 365.2422 days is the basis. There are 11 days difference each year between the lunar and solar calendar. Over 3 years this amounts to ~ 33 days..... therefore every 3 years at least, an extra month of 30 days is added......hence, every 3 year cycle of 1260 days already has at least one leap year. This is pretty good, but it is still 3 days off (33-30=3).....over 10 years, this is significant enough (3 x 10 = 30), that a second leap year has to be added in a 3 year cycle. The Metonic cycle is 19 years, so, every 19 years there are two 3 year intervals with 2 leap years, instead of the 1 leap year that every 3 year cycle contains.When you multiply 360 x 3 = 1080, you are including a leap year with 30 extra days already, since the purpose of the Metonic cycle is to correct the lunar year of 354 to the solar of 365....... the 1080 number has 30 days of a leap year buried within. Every 3 year interval above has a blue number, a leap year, which corrects for the 33 day error which accumulates in that 3 year period
Alternately, if the harpazo occurs during Sukkot, then the next feasts could be fulfilled in reverse order.
It almost looks like it doesnt matter which hypothesis we use, by overlapping the time windows for all of them, the harpazo is in the 'window'. This is the idea behind that frequency distribution spreadsheet i did a while back. As we 'layer' each scenario, the parts closest to the most likely time will 'stack up' higher than the other parts.I found this, I don't know if it will help with the 2-3 days
Look at:
Number of days in month:(*) In leap years Adar has 30 days and VeAdar has 29 days and Defective, normal, and complete years:
www.stevemorse.org/jcal/rules.htm
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Post by Natalie on Oct 6, 2017 18:53:04 GMT -6
Here's another hypothesis to think on: This hypothesis assumes that major events will hit on feasts days and that Jesus returns on Atonement. It also fits with Micah 5:3 and the birth of Jupiter on Tishri 23 (Oct 13/14) 70th week possibly starts Oct 15 which is Tishri 24 and the day they remember what happened in Nehemiah chapter 9 (verses 1-2 talk about it being the 24th day. Looking back to 8:13-18 they were celebrating Sukkot right before this. The whole chapter is very interesting with it ending by them making a firm covenant). 1260 days after Oct 15 is March 28, 2021 which is Passover www.hebcal.com/holidays/2020-2021 (and possibly the murder of the two witnesses and stopping of sacrifices) 30 days later is Second Passover (hebcal says it takes place a month after first Passover -- possibly the set up of Abomination and Jews flee) 1260 days after that is 3 days before Atonement 2024. So, I kept thinking over and over today...what is missing? Why three days before? Could it be ... Hosea 5:15-6:3 I will return again to My place, until they acknowledge their guilt and seek My face, and in their distress earnestly seek Me. Come, let us return to the LORD; for He has torn us, that He may heal us; He has struck us down, and He will bind us up. After two days He will revive us;
on the third day He will raise us up, that we may live before Him.Let us know; let us press on to know the LORD; His going out is sure as the dawn; He will came to us as the showers, as the spring rains that water the earth. |
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Post by mike on Oct 6, 2017 19:02:36 GMT -6
The three days is the two witnesses rising @natalie?
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Post by Natalie on Oct 6, 2017 19:10:53 GMT -6
I thought of that, too, but I don't know how to work that in to the timeline. They witness for 1260 days and then the second half is 1290. Putting the 3 days in the middle messes up the landing on second Passover.
I suppose they could be killed on Passover and raise 3 days later which then starts the 30+1260 days, but that 30 would not fall on anything important.
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Post by yardstick on Oct 6, 2017 19:14:01 GMT -6
@natalie your conjecture makes sense.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 20:45:48 GMT -6
I know I am boring.....so you probably went to sleep before finishing the video from over one year ago www.youtube.com/hbjeZiKHNbsAnd this one And this one I don't give one whit for credit....it completely does not matter to me, a grandfather of ten...my life is complete. What pains me is the pre-conceived filter people place on the Word, literally discovering the rapture under every rock unturned....throw the rapture out the window, and study without a preconceived notion |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 21:06:12 GMT -6
Counting back 1290 days from Yom Kippur 12 October 2024 brings us to 1 April 2021, middle of Passover week.....the 1290 of Daniel 12 is satisfied.
Middle of Passover 2021 to Yom Kippur 2024 is 1290 days.
Maybe 2017-2024 is the 70th week, maybe not
We will know by geopolitical events
If you are not "harpazo'd" by then maybe you will be by Yom Kippur 2023, which has a celestial representation of the sign in heaven of the Son of Man....a pre-wrath view
Hosea 5 suggests a harpazo for the son of man.....
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Post by whatif on Oct 6, 2017 23:50:58 GMT -6
When you figure it out please let us know! Oh welcome to the forum  Thank lol and excuse me I am being a little bit slow should had read the thread title. What I meant to ask is where can I find information about this October 13 date. I have been to the main page and read that new artcle that just came out a few days ago but am a little lost on what the date means. My bible knowledge is a little lacking. I am still in the OT reading my way through. Now the rev 12 sign that happened on the 23 of September is to believe to be a true sign from God his son is coming. Are we coming up with theories that with these Jewish freast days he would return because of the fulfilled prorecies of those holidays. Or on that date Jupiter leaves virgo which we assumed would be the male child being born. I hope I don't come off to any of you guys as a troll or someone that wants to argue about what your belifes ate about all this. I am simple trying to understand all of this. Any links or articles about all this would greatly be appreciated. Welcome to the forum, understanding3! Please feel free to ask questions! We are glad to help with answers to the best of our ability!
Currently we are on watch for the rapture to possibly (speculatively) occur at some point during the prophetic season that we've been in since the day of the 21 August eclipse. The eclipse was the 1st day of the 40-day period of Teshuvah, a period of repentance which ended at the Day of Atonement (29/30 September). We've been speculating about the connection of the eclipse and the 40 days to the times of Jonah and his warning from God concerning Ninevah. The Feast of Trumpets was a special watch day within that 40-day period, as was the day of the Revelation 12:1-2 sign in the heavens. The Feast of Tabernacles (Sukkot) finishes out the fall feasts of Israel, and so we are watching this 7-day period, with a special watch for the 8th day, Shemini Atzeret, as Gary's latest article outlines. October 12 to 13 (sunset to sunset) is the 8th Day Assembly that takes place after the 7 days of the Feast of Tabernacles.
Here's a link to our thread about Shemini Atzeret, in case it is helpful! unsealed.boards.net/thread/1032/shemini-atzeret
Also, you can find links to a great many threads regarding the date speculations, the feasts of Israel, the Revelation 12 sign, the eclipse, and many other topics at our Quick Reference Guide. Here's the link! unsealed.boards.net/thread/645/quick-reference-guide-thread-topics?page=1
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Post by understanding3 on Oct 7, 2017 2:13:23 GMT -6
Thank lol and excuse me I am being a little bit slow should had read the thread title. What I meant to ask is where can I find information about this October 13 date. I have been to the main page and read that new artcle that just came out a few days ago but am a little lost on what the date means. My bible knowledge is a little lacking. I am still in the OT reading my way through. Now the rev 12 sign that happened on the 23 of September is to believe to be a true sign from God his son is coming. Are we coming up with theories that with these Jewish freast days he would return because of the fulfilled prorecies of those holidays. Or on that date Jupiter leaves virgo which we assumed would be the male child being born. I hope I don't come off to any of you guys as a troll or someone that wants to argue about what your belifes ate about all this. I am simple trying to understand all of this. Any links or articles about all this would greatly be appreciated. Welcome to the forum, understanding3! Please feel free to ask questions! We are glad to help with answers to the best of our ability!
Currently we are on watch for the rapture to possibly (speculatively) occur at some point during the prophetic season that we've been in since the day of the 21 August eclipse. The eclipse was the 1st day of the 40-day period of Teshuvah, a period of repentance which ended at the Day of Atonement (29/30 September). We've been speculating about the connection of the eclipse and the 40 days to the times of Jonah and his warning from God concerning Ninevah. The Feast of Trumpets was a special watch day within that 40-day period, as was the day of the Revelation 12:1-2 sign in the heavens. The Feast of Tabernacles (Sukkot) finishes out the fall feasts of Israel, and so we are watching this 7-day period, with a special watch for the 8th day, Shemini Atzeret, as Gary's latest article outlines. October 12 to 13 (sunset to sunset) is the 8th Day Assembly that takes place after the 7 days of the Feast of Tabernacles.
Here's a link to our thread about Shemini Atzeret, in case it is helpful! unsealed.boards.net/thread/1032/shemini-atzeret
Also, you can find links to a great many threads regarding the date speculations, the feasts of Israel, the Revelation 12 sign, the eclipse, and many other topics at our Quick Reference Guide. Here's the link! unsealed.boards.net/thread/645/quick-reference-guide-thread-topics?page=1
Thank I will be sure to read these and compare notes in my bible. |
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Post by Natalie on Oct 7, 2017 8:30:43 GMT -6
I wish Sam hadn't left. I didn't see the rapture in Hosea 6:2 at all. I saw it as Israel longing for their Messiah for three days, and after those three days He gives them strength, revives their spirits after passing through the tribulation period. (their distress in 5:15, being torn and struck down in 6:1) Raises them up from their praying positions.
Yes, it does also parallel Christ being raised after three days, but reading the whole section gives a different picture.
And I wanted to let him know that his first video link isn't working.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 8:58:38 GMT -6
I wish Sam hadn't left. I didn't see the rapture in Hosea 6:2 at all. I saw it as Israel longing for their Messiah for three days, and after those three days He gives them strength, revives their spirits after passing through the tribulation period. (their distress in 5:15, being torn and struck down in 6:1) Raises them up from their praying positions. Yes, it does also parallel Christ being raised after three days, but reading the whole section gives a different picture. And I wanted to let him know that his first video link isn't working. Me too.... Here is the working link |
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Post by Natalie on Oct 7, 2017 9:00:21 GMT -6
Thanks Stephan...maybe I can use mod powers and fix it for him.
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Post by yardstick on Oct 7, 2017 9:16:53 GMT -6
I wish Sam hadn't left. I didn't see the rapture in Hosea 6:2 at all. I saw it as Israel longing for their Messiah for three days, and after those three days He gives them strength, revives their spirits after passing through the tribulation period. (their distress in 5:15, being torn and struck down in 6:1) Raises them up from their praying positions. Yes, it does also parallel Christ being raised after three days, but reading the whole section gives a different picture. And I wanted to let him know that his first video link isn't working. What do you think of the 3 days paralleling 3 years of the second half of the trib? The distress at 5:15 being the AoD, and at 6:1 where the woman (Israel) flies to the wilderness and seeks God? There is also an interesting dynamic related to Ephraim and Judah... The worldly jews and the devout jews? |
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Post by Natalie on Oct 7, 2017 10:14:43 GMT -6
I wish Sam hadn't left. I didn't see the rapture in Hosea 6:2 at all. I saw it as Israel longing for their Messiah for three days, and after those three days He gives them strength, revives their spirits after passing through the tribulation period. (their distress in 5:15, being torn and struck down in 6:1) Raises them up from their praying positions. Yes, it does also parallel Christ being raised after three days, but reading the whole section gives a different picture. And I wanted to let him know that his first video link isn't working. What do you think of the 3 days paralleling 3 years of the second half of the trib? The distress at 5:15 being the AoD, and at 6:1 where the woman (Israel) flies to the wilderness and seeks God? There is also an interesting dynamic related to Ephraim and Judah... The worldly jews and the devout jews? I suppose it is possible, but would it be 3 1/2 days? Does that matter? I don't know. I think that Scripture can have so many layers that we can read it one way, like a literal 3 days, then we can study it and pray about it and read it a slightly different way. I have also seen this verse mentioned with the verse that talks about how a day is a thousand years and a thousand years a day, therefore Jesus comes back for us after 2000 years. The slight problem I have decided I might have with that (I am open to changing my mind ) is that if would have to be roughly 2000 years because it would put the second coming at 2032 or 2033 and that would be passed the 70-80 years for a generation. |
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Post by yardstick on Oct 7, 2017 11:11:56 GMT -6
What do you think of the 3 days paralleling 3 years of the second half of the trib? The distress at 5:15 being the AoD, and at 6:1 where the woman (Israel) flies to the wilderness and seeks God? There is also an interesting dynamic related to Ephraim and Judah... The worldly jews and the devout jews? I suppose it is possible, but would it be 3 1/2 days? Does that matter? I don't know. I think that Scripture can have so many layers that we can read it one way, like a literal 3 days, then we can study it and pray about it and read it a slightly different way. I have also seen this verse mentioned with the verse that talks about how a day is a thousand years and a thousand years a day, therefore Jesus comes back for us after 2000 years. The slight problem I have decided I might have with that (I am open to changing my mind ) is that if would have to be roughly 2000 years because it would put the second coming at 2032 or 2033 and that would be passed the 70-80 years for a generation. I knew you might bring up 3 versus 3-1/2, and I've been thinking about that. Isnt it possible that the jews might spend 6 months after their flight trying to figure out 'where we went wrong' before turning back to God? |
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