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Post by nana on Oct 4, 2017 14:16:47 GMT -6
Nana, the Last Trumpet is a shofar in 1 Cor 15:50-52. Not a silver trumpet.
Also, at Feast of Trumpets there are 99 blasts - 4 separate, distinct patterns of blasts. The Last Trumpet is the 100th blast - There is even a special name in Hebrew for this "Last Trumpet" . It is Tekia Hagodol.
Yes, I know but thought it was interesting that a trumpet is also used the 8th day of Tabernacles.
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Post by yardstick on Oct 4, 2017 15:10:36 GMT -6
- may be off by a month if this is a leap year (delayed barley harvest)
I don't believe this at all. To me this has the same credibility of crop circles or the pyramid angles. It's a slippery slope, if one, then maybe it's off by two months. How many years has this been "off."?? How can anyone prove it.? Why hasn't anyone else noticed this? - The people whose life and culture is surrounded by lunar cycles.
For clarification:
The barley harvest would be reset each year, since as I understand it, it is supposed to signal the beginning of a new year. So if the barley harvest is a month late, then Adar II should have been added to the calendar.
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Post by yardstick on Oct 4, 2017 15:15:53 GMT -6
Nana, the Last Trumpet is a shofar in 1 Cor 15:50-52. Not a silver trumpet.
Also, at Feast of Trumpets there are 99 blasts - 4 separate, distinct patterns of blasts. The Last Trumpet is the 100th blast - There is even a special name in Hebrew for this "Last Trumpet" . It is Tekia Hagodol.
I updated the OP with your info D4L, sorry for the delay. Please let me know what kind of corrections are needed. Also I tried to explain how the barley harvest works, as I understand it. I hope it makes sense. |
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Post by disciple4life on Oct 4, 2017 16:44:58 GMT -6
- may be off by a month if this is a leap year (delayed barley harvest)
I don't believe this at all. To me this has the same credibility of crop circles or the pyramid angles. It's a slippery slope, if one, then maybe it's off by two months. How many years has this been "off."?? How can anyone prove it.? Why hasn't anyone else noticed this? - The people whose life and culture is surrounded by lunar cycles.
For clarification:
The barley harvest would be reset each year, since as I understand it, it is supposed to signal the beginning of a new year. So if the barley harvest is a month late, then Adar II should have been added to the calendar.
Yes, my friend. Thanks for the clarification. We can't just add a leap month for any year. There are not two leap years in a row, and last year was the leap year, according to Torah calendar.
When we look at Torahcalendar.org we can see that last year was a leap year with 14 months. The leap years are 7 times in a 19 year cycle - [Metonic cycle, used since approx. 5th century.] **If we add a leap year every 2 years it's too many - **If we add a leap year every 3 years it's too few. So it just happens that the leap year cycle fits perfectly to the major and minor notes on a piano scale. Start with middle c - each whole step is 2 years + a leap year, C-D. Each half step, is one year and a leap year E-F. See the pattern.?? ? Leap years are added on the 3, 6, 8, 11, 14, 17 & 19. ***That's 7 times in 19 year Metonic Cycle. ;-) Isn't God amazing???
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2017 16:51:07 GMT -6
I studied the Metonic Cycle and it took awhile for me to understand why the first half of the 70th week was 1260, and the last 3 1/2 years was 1290 only twice in a single Metonic cycle, since as D4L points out that an extra month is added 7 of 19 years. The following video explains why, and that a 1290 from Passover to Yom Kippur occurs only twice in the 19 year cycle:
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Post by Natalie on Oct 4, 2017 16:58:14 GMT -6
I think you mean that it was a leap year with 13 months.
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Post by disciple4life on Oct 4, 2017 17:31:36 GMT -6
I think you mean that it was a leap year with 13 months. Yes, Thanks, so much, Natalie. ;-) I appreciate that.
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Post by Natalie on Oct 4, 2017 20:15:23 GMT -6
You are welcome.  I'm going to study your post when I am less tired because I still find it all a bit confusing. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2017 20:33:42 GMT -6
The reason there are only two periods of 3 1/2 years in the 19 year cycle which can account for the 1290 days from Passover to Yom Kippur 3 1/2 years later mentioned in Daniel is because 2 months of Adar 2 get added in the 3 1/2 periods of years 6-8, and 17-19, while all of the rest only get one extra month added.....which means that for all the other periods, one month of Adar 2 accumulates. But for the periods of years 6-8 and 17-19, 2 months of Adar 2 are added, which means those 2 periods of 3 1/2 years accumulate 1 extra month of 30 days relative to the others.
Therefore, 1290 days from Passover one year, to Yom Kippur 3 1/2 years later occurs only for the years 6-8, and 17-19. Practically this means that the 1290 days described in Daniel 12 can only occur on an alternating cycle of 8 and 11 years. The last 3 1/2 year cycle of 1290 days from Passover one year to Yom Kippur 3 1/2 years later was 2013-2016. Obviously, this did not result in the conclusion of the 70th week. The next possible interval is 2021-2024, and that is still open. After that is 2032-2035, then 2040-2043, 2051-2054, 2059-2062.....thereafter, alternating every 8 or 11 years.
To confirm this, use date calendar and hebcal for the jewish holidays over the 3 1/2 year cycle
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Post by disciple4life on Oct 4, 2017 23:34:22 GMT -6
The reason there are only two periods of 3 1/2 years in the 19 year cycle which can account for the 1290 days from Passover to Yom Kippur 3 1/2 years later mentioned in Daniel is because 2 months of Adar 2 get added in the 3 1/2 periods of years 6-8, and 17-19, while all of the rest only get one extra month added.....which means that for all the other periods, one month of Adar 2 accumulates. But for the periods of years 6-8 and 17-19, 2 months of Adar 2 are added, which means those 2 periods of 3 1/2 years accumulate 1 extra month of 30 days relative to the others. Therefore, 1290 days from Passover one year, to Yom Kippur 3 1/2 years later occurs only for the years 6-8, and 17-19. Practically this means that the 1290 days described in Daniel 12 can only occur on an alternating cycle of 8 and 11 years. The last 3 1/2 year cycle of 1290 days from Passover one year to Yom Kippur 3 1/2 years later was 2013-2016. Obviously, this did not result in the conclusion of the 70th week. The next possible interval is 2021-2024, and that is still open. After that is 2032-2035, then 2040-2043, 2051-2054, 2059-2062.....thereafter, alternating every 8 or 11 years. To confirm this, use date calendar and hebcal for the jewish holidays over the 3 1/2 year cycle OK, Sam, This sounds very interesting, but you lost me bro -- and this is not my first eschatology rodeo. Can you talk down to me a little. I'm tracking that you're referring to the Metonic cycle, and it seems like you are saying that the Trib period days - fit the Jewish Feasts. Either the start or the end. ?? Can you elaborate? |
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Post by disciple4life on Oct 4, 2017 23:38:59 GMT -6
You are welcome. I'm going to study your post when I am less tired because I still find it all a bit confusing. Could you tell me what part is confusing -- I promise - I won't be offended. ** Disclaimer, -- I did say above that I am assembling the plane as we fly, so there will likely be a bit of turbulence. heheh. Please keep your seatbelt low and tight on your hips, and hold your coffee carefully. ;-) Is it the thoughts on Israel as the Fig Tree, - Jesus words regarding "This generation shall not pass away until all these things are fulfilled" or something related to Metonic cycle, or my view of Feasts are Inseparably linked to the Messiah. ?
Blessings.
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Post by Natalie on Oct 5, 2017 7:00:30 GMT -6
lol....Just the part about figuring out which year is a leap year. . 2016 / 5776 was a leap year right? Where would that fit on the piano? ETA: I am a visual learner so the piano image helps. |
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Post by Natalie on Oct 5, 2017 7:39:06 GMT -6
Ok, after looking at the keyboard, it's starting to make sense. C would be years one and two C# year three (the leap year), D would be years 4 and 5 with D# the leap year. E would be years 7 and 8 with 8 being a leap year. Am I getting it? I just needed some sleep  |
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Post by nana on Oct 5, 2017 8:09:44 GMT -6
Sunset to sunset
Sept 21/22=1 day (Trumpets)
Sept 22/23=2 days
Sept 23/24=3 days
Sept 24/25=4 days
Sept 25/26=5 days
Sept 26/27=6 days
Sept 27/28=7 days
Sept 28/29=8 days
Sept 29/30=9 days
Sept 30-Oct 1=10 days (Atonement)
Oct 1/2=11 days
Oct 2/3=12 days
Oct 3/4=13 days
Oct 4/5=14 days
Oct 5/6=15 days (Tabernacles)
Oct 6/7=16 days (Tabernacles, day 2)
Oct 7/8=17 days (Tabernacles, day 3)
Oct 8/9=18 days (Tabernacles, day 4)
Oct 9/10=19 days (Tabernacles, day 5)
Oct 10/11=20 days (Tabernacles, day 6)
Oct 11/12=21 days (Tabernacles, Day 7)
Oct 12/13=22 days (Tabernacles, 8th day Sabbath/Shemini Atzeret: Lev 23:36, Numbers 29:35)
Oct 13/14=23 days (Simchat Torah)
Oct 14/15= day 24 (Israel Set Apart)
I am a very visual person and setting the days in my head, using the bible for the days and using the sighting of the Tishri new moon.
Jupiter LEAVES Virgo on the 13th of October somewhere between 20-22 hours? I don't know what time Stellarium uses, UT?
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Post by nana on Oct 5, 2017 8:43:14 GMT -6
Sunset to sunset Sept 21/22=1 day (Trumpets) Sept 22/23=2 days Sept 23/24=3 days Sept 24/25=4 days Sept 25/26=5 days Sept 26/27=6 days Sept 27/28=7 days Sept 28/29=8 days Sept 29/30=9 days Sept 30-Oct 1=10 days (Atonement) Oct 1/2=11 days Oct 2/3=12 days Oct 3/4=13 days Oct 4/5=14 days Oct 5/6=15 days (Tabernacles) Oct 6/7=16 days (Tabernacles, day 2) Oct 7/8=17 days (Tabernacles, day 3) Oct 8/9=18 days (Tabernacles, day 4) Oct 9/10=19 days (Tabernacles, day 5) Oct 10/11=20 days (Tabernacles, day 6) Oct 11/12=21 days (Tabernacles, Day 7) Oct 12/13=22 days (Tabernacles, 8th day Sabbath/Shemini Atzeret: Lev 23:36, Numbers 29:35) Oct 13/14=23 days (Simchat Torah) Oct 14/15= day 24 (Israel Set Apart) I am a very visual person and setting the days in my head, using the bible for the days and using the sighting of the Tishri new moon. Jupiter LEAVES Virgo on the 13th of October somewhere between 20-22 hours? I don't know what time Stellarium uses, UT?
If these calculation are correct:
So if Jupiter leaves Virgo between 20-22 hours UT converted to Israel time that would be 11pm to 1am. The midnight hour is in the middle?
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I'm going to study your post when I am less tired because I still find it all a bit confusing. 