Can we talk? Trumpets and vials/bowls

Thanks Gary. Reading it like that it's the second time through that the second Beast arises that resurrects the first. In a sense, a repeat of 70ad. If the first advent was also one of the 2 witnesses, the time of Jesus ministry would about fit in that 1260 days or whatever it is The dragon isn't hard to spot in church history. I think I know how he try's to devour the baby at birth if the sign of the virgin with the normal gestation period meant normal birth at the second advent. If you follow the narrative of the rider in that white horse you already have him pegged as the AC. It's a false prophecy just like the one saying the temple had to be rebuilt. I think that rider is Jesus.

I've moved the posts after this one to its own thread to keep this one on track and being new discussion here in the 70th week.

Example: Rev 11 shows the 2 witnesses precede the 7th trumpet but if taken chronologically, they cant come in after Rev 10. The reason being, the 2 witnesses are around for 42 months or half of the 70th week. That would place their beginning before the trumpets that sounded. Rev 12 doesn't follow the 7th trumpet. Its showing things in the past and future. It works better as an interlude. Rev 13 is a description to understand the beast. It is not meant for placement in chronology imo.
Rev 14 is not meant to fit chronologically either. What it does is it shows the placement of 3 things how they fall IN THE Chronology previously seen from chapters 6 to 11. It shows Babylon falls after the 144k are sealed. The harvest of the earth also AFTER Babylon's fall. With each of these 3 things shown, there are other things in between them filling in this chronology. But, understanding the when (time) of each thing opens up Revelation. The position of the 144k is easy as most of us already see when it happens. I think God gives that one freely as a starting point. Babylon's fall and the harvest are harder. I have my own opinion on both of these when they happen. 
Rev 15 happens before the bowls as is obvious with the text.
Rev 17 and 18 are explanations.
Rev 19 once again shows Babylon's fall via Rev 14. It precedes the marriage which is between the harvest of the earth and the destruction of the wicked. Lastly, the defeat of the beast and the false prophet. Notice Satan is absent because he's already been sealed. This is shown in Rev 20. You have to wrap your head around the context of it. Satan is sealed when Christ begins to reign and his saints are resurrected. This doesn't happen after the beast is slain, this happens before the beast and false prophet are slain. This is because Christ invites saints to the wedding feast which precedes things events and Christ must make the kingdoms of this world his. He doesn't do this till the 7th Trumpet is sounded in Rev 11:15. The beast and false prophet slain happen at the final destruction of the wicked.

So yes, following it all chronologically is imo impossible. I believe Revelation was written this way for only those who study scripture to one day understand. Its not meant to be understood by a regular person. Its not meant to be understood by the wicked. Its not meant to be put our on the internet and change 150 ways. I think God reveals it a piece at a time to those that seek it. Me, you, others on the forums. But it is complex to hide it to from the world, that they may fall into the pit. I truly believe that. Ears that don't hear, eyes but they cannot see right?

One exercise I did was to read through Revelation and note down where John is in relation to earth, sky and heaven.
John is like a jumping jack, one minute in heaven next on earth, then in midair. He's watching and writing on the move, describing what is is happening but I'm sure that he is sometimes writing and then observing what has just be judged. We are getting various witness statements from different angles that happened at the same time. God is showing John what is happening, what has happened and what's to come all at the same time.
It's no wonder that it's confusing if read strictly chronology.