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Post by watchman35 on Sept 17, 2017 14:30:44 GMT -6
One of the things that has bothered me a bit about the possible timing of 9/23 as the date of the harpazo is the idea that a sign typically comes ahead of that which it is intended to provide warning for or information about. (I mentioned this briefly as part of another recent post, but wanted to give this its own thread.) For example, if you are going to exit off the highway (I will call it the Highway to Heaven in my allegorical post), you will usually get at least one warning sign that tells you your exit is coming up, say, two miles ahead. Whenever I thought about the harpazo itself falling on the same day as the Rev 12 sign, it always bugged me a little when I consider it in the context of having seemingly no advanced warning in between the timing of the appearance of the sign and the timing of the rapture itself.
Well, I believe the Lord has altered my perspective on this. Continuing with my highway exit analogy, a concept that I first read about on a website called alittlestrength.com, it is true that most exits have at least one warning sign in advance of the actual exit, BUT they also have a sign right at the exit itself as well!!! I believe the Lord was showing me that the blood moon tetrad from 2014-2016 (you know, the one the scoffers said was of no significance) could serve the role of the first warning sign on the highway. In other words, retrospectively interpreting the tetrad with a little creative license, I imagine the sign on the Highway to Heaven at that time reading something like this: "Harpazo Lane: Exit 2 Years Ahead". The Magi from the far east at the time of Jesus' birth would get the two-year reference. The Rev 12 sign, continuing in the context of my analogy, I now envision as: "Harpazo Lane: Exit Now". We got our advanced warning with the tetrad a couple of years back. Now it is time to exit planet earth and travel straight up Harpazo Lane, which will run us directly into the Bridal Chamber at the Father's house. Maranatha, Lord Jesus!!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 14:32:55 GMT -6
Also, watchman35, we had the eclipse just 33 days prior to the sign. Also, some signs are for the immediate - such as For Sale sitting on a bicycle or a house. |
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Post by andrew on Sept 17, 2017 15:22:50 GMT -6
Also, is this sign for the Church, or for Israel? I understand either can look at it, but were both the intended recipient? Could it be a "DANGER!!! Ahead, there be dragons!" sign for anyone who missed the exit?
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Post by watchman35 on Sept 17, 2017 15:29:03 GMT -6
Also, is this sign for the Church, or for Israel? I understand either can look at it, but were both the intended recipient? Could it be a "DANGER!!! Ahead, there be dragons!" sign for anyone who missed the exit? Agreed. Guilty of myopic analysis. If it truly means harpazo for us as the Bride, it undoubtedly means danger for Israel. A remnant third will come through the fire to recognize Him whom they have pierced when He comes back to split the Mount of Olives, but theirs will be, it seems to my finite mind, an unimaginably difficult road to salvation. |
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Post by andrew on Sept 17, 2017 15:36:31 GMT -6
Yes. I had a dream last night about two of my friends, brothers (who believe this is sign #1 from Revelation 12), my parents, and me. We were preparing to leave very soon (no destination noticed in said dream) and the town looked abandoned. I knew it wasn't. I knew everyone was just asleep, and refused to listen if anyone bothered them.
Also one of my friends had rigged up some propane grills and red lasers as some kind of demon trap. Not sure what that has to do with the price of tea in China, but it certainly added flavor!
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Post by andrew on Sept 17, 2017 15:38:22 GMT -6
Also, watchman35 , we had the eclipse just 33 days prior to the sign. Also, some signs are for the immediate - such as For Sale sitting on a bicycle or a house. Interesting 153rd post there, silentknight! |
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Post by thetimeoftheend on Sept 17, 2017 16:49:18 GMT -6
I have thought about this as well. But we know the birth is before the labor right? Those of us in the Church who have been watching and not in the dark, will not be caught unawares, we are seeing this coming, we can already see the sign so to speak - God has set his universe in order, we know where the planets will be relative to the stars. But we will be gone, out of danger. The people who really need the sign are Israel and those left behind. Could this be for them to see and figure out in the aftermath? I could be way off, but something I have been pondering.
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Post by andrew on Sept 17, 2017 17:15:37 GMT -6
I have thought about this as well. But we know the birth is before the labor right? Those of us in the Church who have been watching and not in the dark, will not be caught unawares, we are seeing this coming, we can already see the sign so to speak - God has set his universe in order, we know where the planets will be relative to the stars. But we will be gone, out of danger. The people who really need the sign are Israel and those left behind. Could this be for them to see and figure out in the aftermath? I could be way off, but something I have been pondering. That's my thinking. I suppose we'll know soon enough. |
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Post by found on Sept 17, 2017 18:26:05 GMT -6
With more time to search the scriptures and listen to other believers regarding the Revelation 12 sign, I believe that this is significant, as were the moon tetrads and the eclipse. There are many many views on what this Rev 12 sign means. There is a person on the web Russell Rudd, heard one of his videos regarding the Revelation 12 sign and other signs in the heavens, a phenomenal presentation.
As some of you mentioned, is this a sign for the nation of Israel after departing after being raptured, or is this a sign for the Lost. One of the members, or Gary might have posted Isaiah 26: 17....talks about a woman with child. Verse 18 goes on to talk about the women with child in utero and with pain and yet there is no Deliverance on the Earth.The summation of the verse leads me to think about Israel having not followed their purpose with the Lord, in that they did not preach the gospe, they rejected the Chief Cornerstone Jesus. I wonder in the spiritual realm is this a picture of what Israel was to do for the world as a witness for the Lord, to give birth. In contrast if we think about the church being grafted in; the church is brought forth, birthed, and reveals what the Revelation 12 sign signifies. In the latter part of Revelation 12, we read that the woman is hidden for 1260 days. She is hidden with God's covering. There are so many questions that are, if I might say... "retrograding"in my mind. Perhaps the Lord will let us know this before we are raptured. I pray that the the Lord guides and direct our paths so that we will do what is necessary before that day comes. Keeping our lamps full and shedding Lightof salvation is a must!
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Post by duydao on Sept 17, 2017 18:27:42 GMT -6
I believe our DEPARTURE is a SIGN for the JEWS as well.  The last blood moon = 726 days difference from 9/23. 726 = Harpazo. Daniel 8:26 26"The vision of the evenings and mornings Which has been told is true; But keep the vision secret, For it pertains to many days in the future." 826 = augazó: to shine forth biblehub.com/greek/826.htmThe year 2017 = epiphauskó: to shine forth biblehub.com/greek/2017.htmMaybe I'm playing a numbers game. Maybe God laid it out for us. All I know is I believe and will live my life to further his kingdom now. Wish I had done it earlier in my life but it is never too late. With everyone's research and discoveries in Eschatology and Rapture, I believe a lot of souls have been revived and saved. |
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Post by andrew on Sept 17, 2017 19:57:50 GMT -6
A significant reason for the Church is to make Israel jealous. There can be no room for doubt in the minds of the Israelites who are to have their vision restored after the rapture. I know the rapture doesn't HAVE to occur on or before that date, but I can't help but think how more powerful the impact would be. I do, unequivocally, believe that this is the first sign of Revelation 12. I believe the end of the church age is nigh. I can't help but think the fools at fox pointed to this information a week out because God wants more to see.
I can't say I know the day, or the hour, but the season is definitely upon us.
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