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Post by thetimeoftheend on Sept 28, 2017 10:09:30 GMT -6
Matthew 24:37-But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
God told Noah in Gen 7:4- For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.
God told Noah, you have 7 days, he gave him a warning and I have always wondered if we would get the same warning because we are told as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be in the coming of the son of man.
Yes Nana. You hit the nail on the head. ;-) Also, in another passage - ummm, can't remember the reference this moment, it seems that it mentions Noah and Lot. In both of these cases, there was a warning and those watching, righteous were warned in advance, and spared.
Picture of the Christians raptured out/ before the tribulation. I also like the idea of a 7 day warning of the Sept alignment and then possibly Harpazo on Day of Atonement. See if this doesn't make your head spin. The Eclipse was August 21 - exactly 40 days before Day of Atonement. What most people don't realize - is that Aug 21 was the 1st of Elul, which starts the 40 days of repentance. I think the eclipse, and the Sept alignment and other bizarre weather events - Hurricanes Harvey, Irma, Maria, and the record-breaking earthquakes are all converging signs. I pray earnestly for Christ to come quickly. - On Day of Atonement. ;-)
What a wonderful thought! I am praying for the same. I found it intriguing that last night Israel celebrated the 120th anniversary of the First Zion Congress (another type of warning/foreshadowing?) But also (in their words) the Golden Jubilee of the retaking of Judea and Samaria in 1967. I know there is debate on whether Yom Teurah is moved in Jubilee year to the 10th, and whether or not this is even a Jubilee year. I'm not well versed enough in either to make a case. But those two celebrations on the same night jumped out at me. Could be coincidence, could be nothing. Could be our Lord dropping some bread crumbs. I'm trying to temper my expectations and not get too hung up on a particular date, but it seems as if the Lord is telling us in no uncertain terms to look up. Let's hope Atonement is when He calls us! |
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Post by mike on Sept 28, 2017 11:06:52 GMT -6
I really like this theory/ hypothesis for so many reasons. ;-)
I am among multitudes of people who have questions/ concerns/ red flags about the Sept alignment. Among the many problems/ issues aside from the fact that there is a ton of conjecture, and speculation, was the fact that this is not on a feast day.
I hold the view, that the Feasts are Inseparably linked with the Messiah. -- That these Feasts are Moadim, - appointed times. ;-) I also still feel that the Feast of Trumpets has more markers and more parallels to the rapture than any other - No other feast even comes close.
***By the way - we are NOT, NOT in a Jubilee year. So many people are saying this - and it is totally without and evidence. Looking back 50 years and 100 years and seeing colossally important events in prophecy - [Israel becoming a nation, Balfour Declaration in 1917 and the Six Day War - where Israel reclaimed Jerusalem in 1967] does not prove these are Jubilee years.
I have five links from different sources 1 1/2 to 2 years ago all citing that the Sanhedrin (Rabbinical counsel) officially declared Jubilee in 2015/2016.
***Could they all be wrong - ?? When we consider that these are the same guys who didn't think Jesus is the Messiah - Uhhhmm, yes. ;-) The rapture at Day of Atonement (On a Jubilee year, scripture does say that the Trumpet is blown on Day of Atonement !!!) would be the ultimate, super stellar fulfillment squared of Day of Atonement and Jubilee. - Release from Bondage - Freedom from slavery, and land being restored to it's Rightful owner. Wow. - What a great way to provoke the Jews to Jealousy. To have Jubilee restored. Just Wow !! The Jews can't even figure out how to determine which calendar to use and how to prove if any given year - was a Jubilee year. - The Jewish Sanhedrin determined that 1967 was the Key year - before that, they didn't have Jerusalem. They also determined that there was no legal precedent for them to retroactively start the count. So they started the count in 2015/2016. I I hope and pray we see the Harpazo this Day of Atonement, -- Maranatha. ;-) Disciple4life.
Hey buddy, I have seen you state in many threads that the feasts are tied to Messiah. I'm not sure I would debate that, but I do have a question for you. I'm not sure how to even phrase it properly. Correct my understanding here too please if i'm wrong Jesus died on Passover - fulfilled Sinless life - Unleavened Bread - fulfilled Resurrection - Firstfriuts - fulfilled Weeks/Pentecost - fulfilled - this is the one i have questions about and how they relate to directly Him (rather than the body). Technically the Holy Spirit fulfilled this through the body right? So the questions I have is do the next three have to be fulfilled by Him or the body or a combo? For example although it seemed to be a stretch, many (including me) were hoping FoT would be 22nd & 23rd timing up with the Sign, fulfilling the rapture/feast of trumpets all at once. (Did seem like a great idea, but His is better, huh?). Could He fulfill the FoT some other way at some other time? For example could He fulfill this at the end of the Tribulation when HE returns, then the following week DoA, and Tabernacles during the 1000 yrs? Just really thinking out loud. Thanks brother |
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Post by disciple4life on Sept 28, 2017 14:00:06 GMT -6
I really like this theory/ hypothesis for so many reasons. ;-)
I am among multitudes of people who have questions/ concerns/ red flags about the Sept alignment. Among the many problems/ issues aside from the fact that there is a ton of conjecture, and speculation, was the fact that this is not on a feast day.
I hold the view, that the Feasts are Inseparably linked with the Messiah. -- That these Feasts are Moadim, - appointed times. ;-) I also still feel that the Feast of Trumpets has more markers and more parallels to the rapture than any other - No other feast even comes close.
***By the way - we are NOT, NOT in a Jubilee year. So many people are saying this - and it is totally without and evidence. Looking back 50 years and 100 years and seeing colossally important events in prophecy - [Israel becoming a nation, Balfour Declaration in 1917 and the Six Day War - where Israel reclaimed Jerusalem in 1967] does not prove these are Jubilee years.
I have five links from different sources 1 1/2 to 2 years ago all citing that the Sanhedrin (Rabbinical counsel) officially declared Jubilee in 2015/2016.
***Could they all be wrong - ?? When we consider that these are the same guys who didn't think Jesus is the Messiah - Uhhhmm, yes. ;-) The rapture at Day of Atonement (On a Jubilee year, scripture does say that the Trumpet is blown on Day of Atonement !!!) would be the ultimate, super stellar fulfillment squared of Day of Atonement and Jubilee. - Release from Bondage - Freedom from slavery, and land being restored to it's Rightful owner. Wow. - What a great way to provoke the Jews to Jealousy. To have Jubilee restored. Just Wow !! The Jews can't even figure out how to determine which calendar to use and how to prove if any given year - was a Jubilee year. - The Jewish Sanhedrin determined that 1967 was the Key year - before that, they didn't have Jerusalem. They also determined that there was no legal precedent for them to retroactively start the count. So they started the count in 2015/2016. I I hope and pray we see the Harpazo this Day of Atonement, -- Maranatha. ;-) Disciple4life.
Hey buddy, I have seen you state in many threads that the feasts are tied to Messiah. I'm not sure I would debate that, but I do have a question for you. I'm not sure how to even phrase it properly. Correct my understanding here too please if i'm wrong Jesus died on Passover - fulfilled Sinless life - Unleavened Bread - fulfilled Resurrection - Firstfriuts - fulfilled Weeks/Pentecost - fulfilled - this is the one i have questions about and how they relate to directly Him (rather than the body). Technically the Holy Spirit fulfilled this through the body right? So the questions I have is do the next three have to be fulfilled by Him or the body or a combo? For example although it seemed to be a stretch, many (including me) were hoping FoT would be 22nd & 23rd timing up with the Sign, fulfilling the rapture/feast of trumpets all at once. (Did seem like a great idea, but His is better, huh?). Could He fulfill the FoT some other way at some other time? For example could He fulfill this at the end of the Tribulation when HE returns, then the following week DoA, and Tabernacles during the 1000 yrs? Just really thinking out loud. Thanks brother Hey Buddy, I really love this forum and that we can learn from each other as we share ideas. I am a fellow watchman with each of you - looking and eagerly expecting the return of our Lord. - I have thought about the possibility that you and others have mentioned - Christ fulfills all the Fall Feasts at the Second coming. But the problem with this is that Feast of Trumpets is Day of Shouting, and Trumpets, and the Day heaven is open/ door of heaven is open, and even understood by Jews as when the Resurrection happens, and the Coronation day of Kings. It's a celebration - wedding theme, bridegroom comes and hides his bride in the chuppah 7 days. The "Last Tump" is the 100th trumpet, and even has a special name in Hebrew - Tekia Hagadol. It is certainly possible that he fulfills it in some other way, but most everyone would agree that the Rapture is a huge event in the Life of Christ and connected to all believers everywhere. So could he come on another day ?? Not a feast ? This doesn't fit the pattern, and then why all the clues that only fit Feast of Trumpets. ?? I'm open, brother. really. ;-) I don't see any scenario that the Feasts could be fulfilled and not be on a Feast day. Like Passover happening in August. Or Day of Atonement in January?? The vast majority of friends - and all the Bible schools i went to, and most of the churches i went to believe - Secret/ Surpise Rapture Any Day, Any Moment. My understanding changed when i started seeing how Paul said that the Feasts are a shadow of things to come, and I couple that with the fact that the Gospel was given to provoke the Jews to Jealousy. They will be provoked when the Gentiles 'See/ understand the things hidden in their feasts and the Messiah comes and takes a Gentile bride. What would be amazing - perfect, ultimate fulfillment when the Messiah comes on Jubilee year, Day of Atonement - the most important day of Jewish year, when for centuries, the rabbis can't even figure out the Jubilee year. ;-)
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Post by dennislwatson on Nov 27, 2017 10:54:26 GMT -6
Some believers in Jesus Christ have expressed disappointment that the rapture did not occur this weekend, at least yet at this time. When a dear Christian brother in Christ expressed discouragement at trying to understand Bible prophecy because the rapture has not occurred this weekend, I wrote him these reminders about distinguishing what the Bible inerrantly teaches from our added assumptions and theological theories. This is what I wrote to him: Nothing in the Revelation 12:1-5 passage necessarily REQUIRES instantaneous fulfillment of all the aspects mentioned in that passage, as we Westerners with "instant coffee," and "fast food" are culturally influenced to think. Let's think about this, removing presuppositions, and just look at what the Revelation 12:1-5 is saying and not saying: Revelation 12:1 "And a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." LOOKS VERY MUCH LIKE THIS WAS INDEED FULFILLED ON September 23/24. Revelation 12:2 "She was pregnant and was crying out in birth pains and the agony of giving birth." I was present for the birth of our sons, and labor occurred over several days with some of our sons--SO SCRIPTURE IS NOT NECESSARILY STATING THAT LABOR IS ALL ACCOMPLISHED ON THE SAME DAY OF THE GREAT SIGN. Revelation 12:3 "And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and on his heads seven diadems." Here we have yet another event, AND SCRIPTURE IS NOT NECESSARILY STATING THAT THIS SECOND SIGN OCCURS ON THE SAME DAY OF THE "GREAT SIGN." But the encouraging fact is that this sequence of events is now started, meaning that the rapture is coming soon. Revelation 12:4 "His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that when she bore her child he might devour it." It is very possible that this next event could take more than one day to occur, or occurs on a subsequent day sequentially, SCRIPTURE IS NOT NECESSARILY STATING THAT THIS THE DRAGON'S TAIL SWEEPS A THIRD OF STARS ON THE SAME DAY OF THE "GREAT SIGN," but this could be very soon because it is next in the sequence of events! Revelation 12:5 "She gave birth to a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne," Now this is the event we are waiting for--with blessed hope! But SCRIPTURE IS NOT NECESSARILY STATING THAT THE WOMAN GAVE BIRTH ON THE SAME DAY OF THE "GREAT SIGN," but only apparently AFTER the second sign and AFTER dragon's predicted actions. So the very text of Revelation 12:1-5 could very well be like the welcomed sign on a highway that our home town is "5 miles ahead." We're getting VERY CLOSE. God never promised that the Great Sign and subsequent events are all going to happen the SAME DAY, but that the sign signals that this sequence of events has been triggered. SO, it is NOT a "fudge factor" (as some think) to consider the possibility, for example, that "as in the days of Noah" that Noah entered the ark 7 days BEFORE RAIN, or that Leviticus 25:8-9 may appropriately tell us that the Apostle Paul's "last trump" teaching for the rapture is going to be on the Day of Atonement (even though we don't know exactly if this is a Jubilee year, but God would certainly know). Both the Noah model and the Leviticus 25:8-9 model would anticipate that the "Great Sign" was a 7 day advanced notice. SO, let's carefully separate [1] what Scripture ABSOLUTELY INFALLIBLY states from [2] our imposed added hypotheses or presuppositions or theological theories that are not part of Scripture. If we do make this careful distinction, and if the astronomy software users are correct that the alignment uniquely occurred yesterday and today (NOTE: the "great sign" was apparently on 2-days itself--not just one day), then the great news is that the Revelation 12:1-5 sequence of events is NOW triggered, so the sequential events are absolutely going to happen over a Scriptually-undefined number of days. Professor Al, Ph.D., Th.D. Bible professor on an undisclosed unreached mission field profalphdthd ... Just wondering about your statement I quote here. "then the great news is that the Revelation 12:1-5 sequence of events is NOW triggered, so the sequential events are absolutely going to happen over a Scriptually-undefined number of days." 1) I too believe it is great news, 2) I too believe that Rev. 12:1-5 triggered a sequence of events, 3) I too believe that it will absolutely happen, 4) BUT, based on Amos 3:7, I don't think the last part of that statement can be true. When you state that Rev. 12:1-5 triggered a sequence of events could this be the sequence? "We count from the Great Sign of Revelation 12 for the PENTECOST TERMINATION COUNT as follows: Read the verses in Leviticus 23:15 & 16 and see if the count could be applicable. 15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete: 16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD. Apply those verses here because perhaps the Pentecost Season will end at the end of this Biblical count: The Great Sign of Rev. 12:1,2 September 23, 2017 ALL SABBATHS 1 The first Sabbath after - September 30, 2017 2 The second Sabbath - October 7, 2017 3 The third Sabbath - October 14, 2017 4 The fourth Sabbath - October 21, 2017 5 The fifth Sabbath - October 28, 2017 6 The sixth Sabbath - November 4, 2017 7 The seventh Sabbath - November 11, 2017 ALL SUNDAYS 1 The morrow after the seventh Sabbath - November 12, 2017 50 The day of the end of the 50 day count - December 31, 2017 Please do not be concerned that the end of Pentecost count (Day 50) will not occur on the same day (Day 1) in Acts 2 that the beginning of Pentecost count started. It will end when the church is COMPLETE ON DAY 50. That’s why Pentecost, in Acts 2 started on DAY 1. Day 1 was the beginning of the Church. Day 50 is the completion of the Church, now READY FOR HARVEST. When you teach on Pentecost do you teach that Pentecost was fulfilled in Acts 2? When you teach on Pentecost do you teach that Pentecost is a "Harvest" feast? If you teach that Pentecost was fulfilled, what do you describe as the "harvest" of Pentecost? It is interesting to note that the 7th day before that Enoch's Day 365, the last day of the year, is Christmas. I wonder if we get a Christmas sign? Blessings. Thanks for your statement. It was encouraging to me because I too believe SOMETHING WAS TRIGGERED. I also believe God has showed his prophets this information, and that would include Enoch, Moses and John and they all give us the information we need. "Scripturally-undefined?" Those prophets may not agree with you. Blessings Saints. If something was triggered it obviously is that great LAST day of the blessed hope. Hang in there. Keep looking up and counting Saints. |
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Post by Natalie on Nov 27, 2017 11:31:18 GMT -6
dennislwatson - Seems you have quoted someone that has not been online since Oct 12. Sometimes that happens when we post to threads that have gone quiet. Maybe he will eventually return. 
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Post by dennislwatson on Nov 27, 2017 18:35:29 GMT -6
Oops. Learning the system. But klb liked it. I wish this other guy came back. Blessings. I thought I sent a reply of thanks before but it wasn't there.
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Post by Natalie on Nov 27, 2017 21:37:17 GMT -6
No problem. Adding to a thread that went quiet is fine and sometimes useful as time passes or we get new people here. I just didn't want you wondering why he was ignoring you. |
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Post by dennislwatson on Nov 27, 2017 23:18:30 GMT -6
I am so used to being ignored. But I do not feel that here at all. Thank you and all moderators for what you do. I see how you corral things when necessary.
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Post by yardstick on Nov 28, 2017 14:47:50 GMT -6
Some believers in Jesus Christ have expressed disappointment that the rapture did not occur this weekend, at least yet at this time. When a dear Christian brother in Christ expressed discouragement at trying to understand Bible prophecy because the rapture has not occurred this weekend, I wrote him these reminders about distinguishing what the Bible inerrantly teaches from our added assumptions and theological theories. This is what I wrote to him: Nothing in the Revelation 12:1-5 passage necessarily REQUIRES instantaneous fulfillment of all the aspects mentioned in that passage, as we Westerners with "instant coffee," and "fast food" are culturally influenced to think. ... SO, let's carefully separate [1] what Scripture ABSOLUTELY INFALLIBLY states from [2] our imposed added hypotheses or presuppositions or theological theories that are not part of Scripture. If we do make this careful distinction, and if the astronomy software users are correct that the alignment uniquely occurred yesterday and today (NOTE: the "great sign" was apparently on 2-days itself--not just one day), then the great news is that the Revelation 12:1-5 sequence of events is NOW triggered, so the sequential events are absolutely going to happen over a Scriptually-undefined number of days. Professor Al, Ph.D., Th.D. Bible professor on an undisclosed unreached mission field profalphdthd ... Just wondering about your statement I quote here. "then the great news is that the Revelation 12:1-5 sequence of events is NOW triggered, so the sequential events are absolutely going to happen over a Scriptually-undefined number of days." 1) I too believe it is great news, 2) I too believe that Rev. 12:1-5 triggered a sequence of events, 3) I too believe that it will absolutely happen, 4) BUT, based on Amos 3:7, I don't think the last part of that statement can be true. ... |
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Post by dennislwatson on Nov 28, 2017 15:00:16 GMT -6
profalphdthd ... Just wondering about your statement I quote here. "then the great news is that the Revelation 12:1-5 sequence of events is NOW triggered, so the sequential events are absolutely going to happen over a Scriptually-undefined number of days." 1) I too believe it is great news, 2) I too believe that Rev. 12:1-5 triggered a sequence of events, 3) I too believe that it will absolutely happen, 4) BUT, based on Amos 3:7, I don't think the last part of that statement can be true. ... The prophets? For starters. Enoch, the teacher, Moses, the law giver, John, the apostle whom Jesus loved, Paul, the apostle to the gentiles, These are the ones who would respond, "Scripturally-undefined? Did you read my stuff? |
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Post by yardstick on Nov 28, 2017 15:36:43 GMT -6
Who are the prophets referred to in Amos 3:7? The prophets? For starters. Enoch, the teacher, Moses, the law giver, John, the apostle whom Jesus loved, Paul, the apostle to the gentiles, These are the ones who would respond, "Scripturally-undefined? Did you read my stuff? I have been looking through your paper. It is a list of hypotheses, correct? Also, are you including yourself or other modern day believers in the term 'prophets'? How do you know when the last day of any given year is? Which calendar system? |
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Post by disciple4life on Oct 20, 2019 15:39:07 GMT -6
watchman35,mike,christian,grandpaskitzo,nana,profalphdthd,yardstick,disciple4life,
Hello Fellow watchmen - I have been watching the news a lot with the recent Turkey/Syria escalation. Then, last week, do anyone else see the article on the main homepage regarding Brexit, and the calm before the storm?
I keep coming back to this thread. The more I thought about it, the more God brings to mind case after case from scripture of warning before calamity.
I'm wondering, regardless of your view regarding Pre-trib, or mid-trib, or post trib, does anyone else think that there will be a warning - ? Why or why not. ??
I'm certainly not dogmatic, and outside the mainstream on some views. I positively don't believe in an "Imminent- any day rapture, in the same way that I don't believe for a moment that a pregnant woman gives birth at any day. LOL.
There is a lot of scripture precedence. Here's just a few that just jump out. I would also love to know what your thoughts are regarding some ''types" or pictures of these people and how they might be connected with Christ.
The first one was the example from @gary 's post on reasons for a Pre-trib rapture, though Im not implying he holds this view. No particular order really. - Joseph was clearly a type of Christ, and he was warned of the famine - wasn't that 7 years. Hmm. - Children of Israel were warned of the judgement/ calamity of the Passover and the death angel. Direct foreshadow of Christ. - Rahab was warned regarding the destruction of Jericho, and was also one of the few women listed in Christ's genealogy. She was saved by a scarlet thread. Wow - the scarlet thread of redemption that runs from Genesis to Revelation --- goose bumps right now. - Jonah was a flashing neon-sign foreshadow of Christ, and Christ gave the Sign of Jonah, as the only sign as proof of his Messiahship. 3 Days and 3 nights in the belly of the fish/heart of the earth. Jonah also was warned of the impending disaster to the ship, and told them to throw him overboard. The ship and sailors were warned and spared. - Lot was warned regarding the destruction of Sodom and also warned his sons in Law. They ignored. - Noah was given a 7 day warning before the rain started - the parallels of this are beyond striking. I'm sure that he also warned others, - the same neighbors who mocked him, and I'm sure that they mocked him again. I can only imagine the absolute hoards of people who had mocked him, how their hearts were gripped with terror when the first drops of rain fell from the sky. - The Wisemen/ Magi were warned in a dream of Herod's plan and went another way - bypassing destruction.
Then, as @reepicheep and @gary and others like to say - Convergence, convergence, convergence.
Christ used idioms, and parables, and stories and lots of methods to tell his followers about his second advent. [all the events including rapture, tribulation, AC and his second coming] Let's look at some of the most notable ones. The one being mentioned above - and by watchman35 - Noah. Christ used this example as a sign for his second advent - Noah was given a warning. I'm not implying that the warning will necessarily be 7 days. I think it very well could be, but I'm also thinking of the technology that is used to detect earthquakes. The other most stunning example that Christ gave regarding his second advent was a woman giving birth.
Before we had our first child, we went to a birthing class. We wanted to be as prepared as we could. They told us about timing the contractions. They said that when contractions are in the beginning, they can be 6 hours apart. Then as J D Farag says about contractions - birth pains, when they start, they increase in frequency and intensity. The amazing thing about birth, is that not only is there a warning, - there are two kinds of warnings, each signaling a much shorter time span.
- First, there are contractions. At this stage, you have days. Some women have Braxton Hicks - false labor. Has all the same sensations as labor, but they aren't the real deal. That was the Rev 12 sign. ***Before people attack me - I do believe it was a sign, and that it has huge prophetic significance. Just not what most people thought - including myself and the discover of the sign. - Then, there is the water breaking. When the water breaks, - there is no more discussions, no more debate - Now, it's not days, not hours - but minutes.
These are the cases you see in the movies, where the Policeman, or fireman delivers the baby in a Wendy's parking lot, or on a subway.
They taught us to have "the bags packed" literally and sitting by the door. Sometimes, things happen faster and the woman goes into labor early. When the contractions are 4-5 minutes apart, grab the bag and go to the hospital.
Imagine your wife is 3 months pregnant and you've just made the news official, at your small group. Jim, your co-worker is 23 and single and at the small group. He gives you a huge pat on the back, and says "Congratulations, Bub, Susan, any day now."  Your wife rolls her eyes and almost spews her coffee. It's clear, Jim knows nothing about childbirth.
Cheers, my fellow watchmen.
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Oct 20, 2019 21:36:14 GMT -6
disciple4life , I will agree that there will be a warning. Because He is merciful, the 2nd Coming will be warned about, I will go with this: 16“And he will turn many of the sons of Israel back to the Lord their God. 17“It is he who will go as a forerunner before Him in the spirit and power of Elijah, TO TURN THE HEARTS OF THE FATHERS BACK TO THE CHILDREN, and the disobedient to the attitude of the righteous, so as to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.”
4as it is written in the book of the words of Isaiah the prophet,
“THE VOICE OF ONE CRYING IN THE WILDERNESS,
‘MAKE READY THE WAY OF THE LORD,
MAKE HIS PATHS STRAIGHT.
5‘EVERY RAVINE WILL BE FILLED,
AND EVERY MOUNTAIN AND HILL WILL BE BROUGHT LOW;
THE CROOKED WILL BECOME STRAIGHT,
AND THE ROUGH ROADS SMOOTH;
6AND ALL FLESH WILL SEE THE SALVATION OF GOD.’”
7So he began saying to the crowds who were going out to be baptized by him, “You brood of vipers, who warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
6There came a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7He came as a witness, to testify about the Light, so that all might believe through him. 8He was not the Light, but he came to testify about the Light.
19This is the testimony of John, when the Jews sent to him priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, “Who are you?” 20And he confessed and did not deny, but confessed, “I am not the Christ.” 21They asked him, “What then? Are you Elijah?” And he said, “I am not.” “Are you the Prophet?” And he answered, “No.” 22Then they said to him, “Who are you, so that we may give an answer to those who sent us? What do you say about yourself?” 23He said, “I am A VOICE OF ONE CRYING IN THE WILDERNESS, ‘MAKE STRAIGHT THE WAY OF THE LORD,’
1Now in those days John the Baptist came, preaching in the wilderness of Judea, saying, 2“Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.”
4Now John himself had a garment of camel’s hair and a leather belt around his waist; and his food was locusts and wild honey.the pattern was shown for the First Coming which I believe is the similar pattern for the 2nd, but now we have the full compliment of testifies because Jesus died for both Jew and Gentile. These are the ones who follow the Lamb wherever He goes. These have been purchased from among men as first fruits to God and to the Lamb. 5And no lie was found in their mouth; they are blameless.
6And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, having an eternal gospel to preach to those who live on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people; 7and he said with a loud voice, “Fear God, and give Him glory, because the hour of His judgment has come; worship Him who made the heaven and the earth and sea and springs of waters.”
“Get up and measure the temple of God and the altar, and those who worship in it. 2“Leave out the court which is outside the temple and do not measure it, for it has been given to the nations; and they will tread under foot the holy city for forty-two months. 3“And I will grant authority to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for twelve hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth.”
I guarantee I will catch grief, but this is where I have come after hanging out with ya'll since the summer of 2017. A combination of all that is spoken here has led me to this. So just when you think 'no way I can agree with you barbio,' I will say its because of other things you showed me that I say amen to that led me here today.
notice the inner court is measurable with worshippers but the outside is not yet, notice what is First Fruits, notice they go wherever Jesus goes
Keeping in mind 1Cor 15:23 and Rev 14:4. and in case you think I am nuts
26For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s descendants, heirs according to promise.
keeping in mind the feast clocks.
Keeping in mind the upper room scenes. both of them. keeping in mind the great commission that has apparently been failing the past 2000 years otherwise, would not we all be of one mind?. which denomination is going to get raptured? really? whose gospel message is the truth? what was the command of Christ before He ascended? the House is rather cluttered with confusion don't ya think?
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Your wife rolls her eyes and almost spews her coffee. It's clear, Jim knows nothing about childbirth. 