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Post by watchman35 on Sept 15, 2017 19:41:33 GMT -6
If we are going to be harpazoed on 9/23, and if the Lord were going to give us a seven day warning like He did when He had Noah get on the Ark 7 days before He shut the door and brought the rain, then tomorrow, 9//16, would be the day. Watching and praying!!!
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Post by mike on Sept 15, 2017 19:43:49 GMT -6
If we are going to be harpazoed on 9/23, and if the Lord were going to give us a seven day warning like He did when He had Noah get on the Ark 7 days before He shut the door and brought the rain, then tomorrow, 9//16, would be the day. Watching and praying!!! Wouldn't it be today around noon Eastern until about same tomorrow 9/16? Israel time right? |
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Post by watchman35 on Sept 15, 2017 20:01:45 GMT -6
If we are going to be harpazoed on 9/23, and if the Lord were going to give us a seven day warning like He did when He had Noah get on the Ark 7 days before He shut the door and brought the rain, then tomorrow, 9//16, would be the day. Watching and praying!!! Wouldn't it be today around noon Eastern until about same tomorrow 9/16? Israel time right? With the time differential, yep, that sounds about right Mike. Had on my myopic American lenses again  . Still tend to forget that the universe does not revolve around us... |
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Post by mike on Sept 15, 2017 20:40:48 GMT -6
Ok just wanted to be sure. Thanks.
Doubtful the protest in St Louis is related?
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Post by christian on Sept 16, 2017 3:45:05 GMT -6
Ok just wanted to be sure. Thanks. Doubtful the protest in St Louis is related? Just wanted to add this in here, www.fox4news.com/news/pro-confederate-monument-protest-still-on-for-saturday-in-dallas"A group that wanted to keep the Robert E. Lee statue in place at Dallas’ Lee Park will go ahead with its pre-planned protest on Saturday...The group will shuttle its supporters into Lee Park starting late Saturday morning. They are a pro-open carry group and they are encouraging their people to come armed." |
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Post by grandpaskitzo on Sept 22, 2017 19:02:02 GMT -6
Maybe the 7 day warning starts on the 23rd. After all, it is only 33 days after the eclipse, and then the next 7 will complete the 40 day period of repentance after the eclipse.
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Post by nana on Sept 23, 2017 19:03:23 GMT -6
7 days after the Rev 12 sign, the sign of Noah. I have always wondered if we would have a 7 day warning.
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Post by grandpaskitzo on Sept 23, 2017 19:48:34 GMT -6
What is the sign of Noah? I've heard so many different ones.
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Post by nana on Sept 24, 2017 8:59:13 GMT -6
What is the sign of Noah? I've heard so many different ones. Matthew 24:37-But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
God told Noah in Gen 7:4- For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.
God told Noah, you have 7 days, he gave him a warning and I have always wondered if we would get the same warning because we are told as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be in the coming of the son of man.
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Post by profalphdthd on Sept 24, 2017 12:13:55 GMT -6
Some believers in Jesus Christ have expressed disappointment that the rapture did not occur this weekend, at least yet at this time. When a dear Christian brother in Christ expressed discouragement at trying to understand Bible prophecy because the rapture has not occurred this weekend, I wrote him these reminders about distinguishing what the Bible inerrantly teaches from our added assumptions and theological theories. This is what I wrote to him:
Nothing in the Revelation 12:1-5 passage necessarily REQUIRES instantaneous fulfillment of all the aspects mentioned in that passage, as we Westerners with "instant coffee," and "fast food" are culturally influenced to think.
Let's think about this, removing presuppositions, and just look at what the Revelation 12:1-5 is saying and not saying:
Revelation 12:1 "And a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." LOOKS VERY MUCH LIKE THIS WAS INDEED FULFILLED ON September 23/24.
Revelation 12:2 "She was pregnant and was crying out in birth pains and the agony of giving birth."
I was present for the birth of our sons, and labor occurred over several days with some of our sons--SO SCRIPTURE IS NOT NECESSARILY STATING THAT LABOR IS ALL ACCOMPLISHED ON THE SAME DAY OF THE GREAT SIGN.
Revelation 12:3 "And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and on his heads seven diadems."
Here we have yet another event, AND SCRIPTURE IS NOT NECESSARILY STATING THAT THIS SECOND SIGN OCCURS ON THE SAME DAY OF THE "GREAT SIGN." But the encouraging fact is that this sequence of events is now started, meaning that the rapture is coming soon.
Revelation 12:4 "His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that when she bore her child he might devour it."
It is very possible that this next event could take more than one day to occur, or occurs on a subsequent day sequentially, SCRIPTURE IS NOT NECESSARILY STATING THAT THIS THE DRAGON'S TAIL SWEEPS A THIRD OF STARS ON THE SAME DAY OF THE "GREAT SIGN," but this could be very soon because it is next in the sequence of events!
Revelation 12:5 "She gave birth to a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne,"
Now this is the event we are waiting for--with blessed hope! But SCRIPTURE IS NOT NECESSARILY STATING THAT THE WOMAN GAVE BIRTH ON THE SAME DAY OF THE "GREAT SIGN," but only apparently AFTER the second sign and AFTER dragon's predicted actions.
So the very text of Revelation 12:1-5 could very well be like the welcomed sign on a highway that our home town is "5 miles ahead." We're getting VERY CLOSE. God never promised that the Great Sign and subsequent events are all going to happen the SAME DAY, but that the sign signals that this sequence of events has been triggered.
SO, it is NOT a "fudge factor" (as some think) to consider the possibility, for example, that "as in the days of Noah" that Noah entered the ark 7 days BEFORE RAIN, or that Leviticus 25:8-9 may appropriately tell us that the Apostle Paul's "last trump" teaching for the rapture is going to be on the Day of Atonement (even though we don't know exactly if this is a Jubilee year, but God would certainly know). Both the Noah model and the Leviticus 25:8-9 model would anticipate that the "Great Sign" was a 7 day advanced notice.
SO, let's carefully separate [1] what Scripture ABSOLUTELY INFALLIBLY states from [2] our imposed added hypotheses or presuppositions or theological theories that are not part of Scripture. If we do make this careful distinction, and if the astronomy software users are correct that the alignment uniquely occurred yesterday and today (NOTE: the "great sign" was apparently on 2-days itself--not just one day), then the great news is that the Revelation 12:1-5 sequence of events is NOW triggered, so the sequential events are absolutely going to happen over a Scriptually-undefined number of days.
Professor Al, Ph.D., Th.D.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 12:30:23 GMT -6
Great synopsis, prof!
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Post by yardstick on Sept 26, 2017 14:55:26 GMT -6
Some believers in Jesus Christ have expressed disappointment that the rapture did not occur this weekend, at least yet at this time. When a dear Christian brother in Christ expressed discouragement at trying to understand Bible prophecy because the rapture has not occurred this weekend, I wrote him these reminders about distinguishing what the Bible inerrantly teaches from our added assumptions and theological theories. This is what I wrote to him: Nothing in the Revelation 12:1-5 passage necessarily REQUIRES instantaneous fulfillment of all the aspects mentioned in that passage, as we Westerners with "instant coffee," and "fast food" are culturally influenced to think. Let's think about this, removing presuppositions, and just look at what the Revelation 12:1-5 is saying and not saying: Revelation 12:1 "And a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." LOOKS VERY MUCH LIKE THIS WAS INDEED FULFILLED ON September 23/24. Revelation 12:2 "She was pregnant and was crying out in birth pains and the agony of giving birth." I was present for the birth of our sons, and labor occurred over several days with some of our sons--SO SCRIPTURE IS NOT NECESSARILY STATING THAT LABOR IS ALL ACCOMPLISHED ON THE SAME DAY OF THE GREAT SIGN. Revelation 12:3 "And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and on his heads seven diadems." Here we have yet another event, AND SCRIPTURE IS NOT NECESSARILY STATING THAT THIS SECOND SIGN OCCURS ON THE SAME DAY OF THE "GREAT SIGN." But the encouraging fact is that this sequence of events is now started, meaning that the rapture is coming soon. Revelation 12:4 "His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that when she bore her child he might devour it." It is very possible that this next event could take more than one day to occur, or occurs on a subsequent day sequentially, SCRIPTURE IS NOT NECESSARILY STATING THAT THIS THE DRAGON'S TAIL SWEEPS A THIRD OF STARS ON THE SAME DAY OF THE "GREAT SIGN," but this could be very soon because it is next in the sequence of events! Revelation 12:5 "She gave birth to a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne," Now this is the event we are waiting for--with blessed hope! But SCRIPTURE IS NOT NECESSARILY STATING THAT THE WOMAN GAVE BIRTH ON THE SAME DAY OF THE "GREAT SIGN," but only apparently AFTER the second sign and AFTER dragon's predicted actions. So the very text of Revelation 12:1-5 could very well be like the welcomed sign on a highway that our home town is "5 miles ahead." We're getting VERY CLOSE. God never promised that the Great Sign and subsequent events are all going to happen the SAME DAY, but that the sign signals that this sequence of events has been triggered. SO, it is NOT a "fudge factor" (as some think) to consider the possibility, for example, that "as in the days of Noah" that Noah entered the ark 7 days BEFORE RAIN, or that Leviticus 25:8-9 may appropriately tell us that the Apostle Paul's "last trump" teaching for the rapture is going to be on the Day of Atonement (even though we don't know exactly if this is a Jubilee year, but God would certainly know). Both the Noah model and the Leviticus 25:8-9 model would anticipate that the "Great Sign" was a 7 day advanced notice. SO, let's carefully separate [1] what Scripture ABSOLUTELY INFALLIBLY states from [2] our imposed added hypotheses or presuppositions or theological theories that are not part of Scripture. If we do make this careful distinction, and if the astronomy software users are correct that the alignment uniquely occurred yesterday and today (NOTE: the "great sign" was apparently on 2-days itself--not just one day), then the great news is that the Revelation 12:1-5 sequence of events is NOW triggered, so the sequential events are absolutely going to happen over a Scriptually-undefined number of days. Professor Al, Ph.D., Th.D. Bible professor on an undisclosed unreached mission field It never hurts to qualify one's synopsis as a hypothetical/hypothesis. |
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Post by disciple4life on Sept 28, 2017 9:23:46 GMT -6
Maybe the 7 day warning starts on the 23rd. After all, it is only 33 days after the eclipse, and then the next 7 will complete the 40 day period of repentance after the eclipse. I really like this theory/ hypothesis for so many reasons. ;-)
I am among multitudes of people who have questions/ concerns/ red flags about the Sept alignment. Among the many problems/ issues aside from the fact that there is a ton of conjecture, and speculation, was the fact that this is not on a feast day.
I hold the view, that the Feasts are Inseparably linked with the Messiah. -- That these Feasts are Moadim, - appointed times. ;-) I also still feel that the Feast of Trumpets has more markers and more parallels to the rapture than any other - No other feast even comes close.
***By the way - we are NOT, NOT in a Jubilee year. So many people are saying this - and it is totally without and evidence. Looking back 50 years and 100 years and seeing colossally important events in prophecy - [Israel becoming a nation, Balfour Declaration in 1917 and the Six Day War - where Israel reclaimed Jerusalem in 1967] does not prove these are Jubilee years.
I have five links from different sources 1 1/2 to 2 years ago all citing that the Sanhedrin (Rabbinical counsel) officially declared Jubilee in 2015/2016.
***Could they all be wrong - ?? When we consider that these are the same guys who didn't think Jesus is the Messiah - Uhhhmm, yes. ;-) The rapture at Day of Atonement (On a Jubilee year, scripture does say that the Trumpet is blown on Day of Atonement !!!) would be the ultimate, super stellar fulfillment squared of Day of Atonement and Jubilee. - Release from Bondage - Freedom from slavery, and land being restored to it's Rightful owner. Wow. - What a great way to provoke the Jews to Jealousy. To have Jubilee restored. Just Wow !! The Jews can't even figure out how to determine which calendar to use and how to prove if any given year - was a Jubilee year. - The Jewish Sanhedrin determined that 1967 was the Key year - before that, they didn't have Jerusalem. They also determined that there was no legal precedent for them to retroactively start the count. So they started the count in 2015/2016. I I hope and pray we see the Harpazo this Day of Atonement, -- Maranatha. ;-) Disciple4life.
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Post by disciple4life on Sept 28, 2017 9:31:36 GMT -6
What is the sign of Noah? I've heard so many different ones. Matthew 24:37-But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
God told Noah in Gen 7:4- For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.
God told Noah, you have 7 days, he gave him a warning and I have always wondered if we would get the same warning because we are told as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be in the coming of the son of man.
Yes Nana. You hit the nail on the head. ;-) Also, in another passage - ummm, can't remember the reference this moment, it seems that it mentions Noah and Lot. In both of these cases, there was a warning and those watching, righteous were warned in advance, and spared.
Picture of the Christians raptured out/ before the tribulation. I also like the idea of a 7 day warning of the Sept alignment and then possibly Harpazo on Day of Atonement. See if this doesn't make your head spin. The Eclipse was August 21 - exactly 40 days before Day of Atonement. What most people don't realize - is that Aug 21 was the 1st of Elul, which starts the 40 days of repentance. I think the eclipse, and the Sept alignment and other bizarre weather events - Hurricanes Harvey, Irma, Maria, and the record-breaking earthquakes are all converging signs. I pray earnestly for Christ to come quickly. - On Day of Atonement. ;-)
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Post by nana on Sept 28, 2017 10:01:01 GMT -6
Maybe the 7 day warning starts on the 23rd. After all, it is only 33 days after the eclipse, and then the next 7 will complete the 40 day period of repentance after the eclipse. I really like this theory/ hypothesis for so many reasons. ;-)
I am among multitudes of people who have questions/ concerns/ red flags about the Sept alignment. Among the many problems/ issues aside from the fact that there is a ton of conjecture, and speculation, was the fact that this is not on a feast day.
I hold the view, that the Feasts are Inseparably linked with the Messiah. -- That these Feasts are Moadim, - appointed times. ;-) I also still feel that the Feast of Trumpets has more markers and more parallels to the rapture than any other - No other feast even comes close.
***By the way - we are NOT, NOT in a Jubilee year. So many people are saying this - and it is totally without and evidence. Looking back 50 years and 100 years and seeing colossally important events in prophecy - [Israel becoming a nation, Balfour Declaration in 1917 and the Six Day War - where Israel reclaimed Jerusalem in 1967] does not prove these are Jubilee years.
I have five links from different sources 1 1/2 to 2 years ago all citing that the Sanhedrin (Rabbinical counsel) officially declared Jubilee in 2015/2016.
***Could they all be wrong - ?? When we consider that these are the same guys who didn't think Jesus is the Messiah - Uhhhmm, yes. ;-) The rapture at Day of Atonement (On a Jubilee year, scripture does say that the Trumpet is blown on Day of Atonement !!!) would be the ultimate, super stellar fulfillment squared of Day of Atonement and Jubilee. - Release from Bondage - Freedom from slavery, and land being restored to it's Rightful owner. Wow. - What a great way to provoke the Jews to Jealousy. To have Jubilee restored. Just Wow !! The Jews can't even figure out how to determine which calendar to use and how to prove if any given year - was a Jubilee year. - The Jewish Sanhedrin determined that 1967 was the Key year - before that, they didn't have Jerusalem. They also determined that there was no legal precedent for them to retroactively start the count. So they started the count in 2015/2016. I I hope and pray we see the Harpazo this Day of Atonement, -- Maranatha. ;-) Disciple4life.
Have you seen this video it is pretty new? Sound the Jubilee on the Day of Atonement 2017
watchfortheday.org/greattrump.html
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