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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 10:57:03 GMT -6
MissusMack08 your brain will really be fried. But I will say that you eyes will certainly be opened like never before. I mean that in context of our God and His great creation. There is much more evidence to prove here than Ive ever heard. I like evidence as it leads to proof! Well that's true, but I was referring to my interminable questions and speculations! Lol ROFL..... MissusMack08, you really made my day It will be a pleasure for us, to forward your interminable questions and speculations to the authors of these papers....
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Post by mike on Sept 12, 2017 10:58:26 GMT -6
MissusMack08 i think you'll get more answers than questions from it if you decide to delve into it. Nibiru may become more of a plausibility than before. I can say that I dont know if there is a planet or system of planets out there. Seems to me something is causing our sun to act up during solar minimum. If it is one planet or a system we'll find out soon enough. Reading the link from stephan will help you clear up the possibility that something is happening and ordained. What that is will be determined, and likely very soon.
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Post by MissusMack08 on Sept 12, 2017 11:44:02 GMT -6
MissusMack08 i think you'll get more answers than questions from it if you decide to delve into it. Nibiru may become more of a plausibility than before. I can say that I dont know if there is a planet or system of planets out there. Seems to me something is causing our sun to act up during solar minimum. If it is one planet or a system we'll find out soon enough. Reading the link from stephan will help you clear up the possibility that something is happening and ordained. What that is will be determined, and likely very soon. Is that a dare?!?! 😉 I was thinking that about the sun too. If it's supposed to be going into solar minimum, why is it flaring up like it is? That it's probably the same thing that's screwing with our oceans and electromagnetic field, etc.
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Post by mike on Sept 12, 2017 12:31:18 GMT -6
To the OP ( bernie ?) sorry for the tangent but one last note... MissusMack08 I was just reading in the Mars Wars piece and its interesting you mention our electromagnetic field. Part of the "concept" (i call it concept as I have no better way to describe what they calculate as evidence) is that as Mars passed earth the magnetism between the planets charged the fields between the two. Planets are like gyroscopes, earth a bit complex in that only like 2% is solid the rest liquid, but a gyroscope nonetheless. So as Mars used to regularly pass extremely close to earth its charged the gyro. A top or dreidel is an appropriate analogy but...Much like my 1977 Evel Knievel stunt cycle, the more I cranked on it the faster the gyro and more stable the bike would be until it lost its power due to friction. Evel Knievel stunt cycle! So with the planets in a vacuum (great design right!) there is no friction to cause a loss of the torque on the gyro, but when something else is acting on the top its starts to wobble as it spins. we are wobbling, something is causing that, likely not Mars. So um yeah thats a challenge! EDIT-bernie if there is a planet or planetary system as many speculate, to cause a 3 hour eclipse it would have to either be larger than our moon, and travelling at a speed (slow) and direction that would block the sun for that amount of time. No clue what the math is for that, but it would also have to get close enough to earth to obscure our view of the sun. If it came that close to be here in 10 days, we would be feeling the affects of it already or see it already. Now in the above where I mention Mars flying by earth the distance was believed to be 27,000 miles (moon is about 240,000) but it was also at a speed of about 100,000MPH so it flew by rather quickly 15 minutes or so. At that speed an eclipse wouldnt last 3 hours. Not saying the "Nibiru" effect cant happen, just dont think its the likely candidate for a 3 hour blackout in 10 days. Hey now were back on track!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 13:09:15 GMT -6
Agreed, mike . Just want to add, that the Nibiru/Nemesis thing (and the resulting effects) may be a candidate for the fulfilment of some of the Revelation trumpets and vials. And please, folks, please bear in mind, that IMHO about 95 out of 100 reports on Nibiru/Nemesis in the internet are just conspiracy theories and not based on real and validated data or observations. It is very hard to find trustworthy information on that. But with the mentioned concept in mind it may be easier to detect the true core in this.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 13:27:31 GMT -6
I mentioned this valuable resource from Lu Vega yet in another thread, hundreds of pages full of well researched information on planet X and the implications for the endtimes. I do not buy into all of his theories (several raptures i.e.), but it is even worth reading. p. 349++ discusses the wrath of the lamb.
onedrive.live.com/?cid=F18D5BF95B5644F2&id=F18D5BF95B5644F2%216130&parId=F18D5BF95B5644F2%216153&o=OneUp
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Post by watchman35 on Sept 12, 2017 18:53:51 GMT -6
I found this video about the possibility of Nibiru showing up to cause a solar eclipse on 9/23 for three hours from noon to 3 Israeli time to be something fascinating to contemplate. The logic is tied in to our Lord's crucifixion and how there is no way possible that the moon could have caused the eclipse that darkened the sun for three hours on the day that Jesus was crucified. As Cornelius Jones explains in his video, Passover is always in the middle of the month on Nissan 14 and therefore always on a full moon. Solar eclipses never happen on full moons, they occur on new moons. Furthermore, as I understand it, solar eclipses at most can account for a maximum period of total darkness on the earth for something less than 10 minutes (think closer to 7). It is therefore pretty obvious that it was not and could have been the moon that caused the solar eclipse on the day that Jesus laid down His life for us. So what blocked that sun the day they crucified our Lord? Niburu/Planet X?
Certainly not dogmatic about this, and it is obviously not an essential issue related to salvation. However, that said, I would not be surprised in the least if we encounter some type of extended eclipse on 9/23 that exposes the Great Sign in the heavens for the whole world to look up at, although tragically I suspect for most though seeing, they will not see. Can you imagine what a stir that would cause if that planet shows up to block the sun so that the Great Sign will be revealed in the heavens?
I found the video well worth the time, so I offer it up for your consideration.
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Post by socalexile on Sept 12, 2017 20:13:46 GMT -6
For one, why aren't we seeing Nibiru in the last several years since they started talking about it? Why do people claim there's this mystery planet in Virgo, but can't seem to come up with a picture of it? The earth moves in relation to the sun, there should be plenty of opportunity for a clear shot since they started talking about this. The evidence that should be there, simply isn't there to support this claim.
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Post by sawdy on Sept 12, 2017 20:37:58 GMT -6
This video got me thinking about the three hour eclipse at the time of Jesus' death. If you could "see" a planet, you would be like- "Hey! Check out at that planet over there!- Near the sun!". The reason why an eclipse is so neat is the fact that when the moon eclipsed the sun, it was a new moon. We couldn't see it in the sky leading up to the eclipse. (My son wanted to check- we see the moon in the sky all the time). If you didn't know about the eclipse happening - and saw it happen- it would catch you off guard. The video and the one he speaks about definitely made me think about the possibilities. It definitely seems to be a plausible theory to me as how will we "see the sign" on the 23rd?
Time will tell. And it is not much time to go. If nothing happens, we will have a heightened watch period that ends with the end of fall. Somehow, I think that would be detrimental to all the signs that have led up to this fall.
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Post by linda on Sept 12, 2017 20:47:41 GMT -6
I mentioned this valuable resource from Lu Vega yet in another thread, hundreds of pages full of well researched information on planet X and the implications for the endtimes. I do not buy into all of his theories (several raptures i.e.), but it is even worth reading. p. 349++ discusses the wrath of the lamb. onedrive.live.com/?cid=F18D5BF95B5644F2&id=F18D5BF95B5644F2%216130&parId=F18D5BF95B5644F2%216153&o=OneUp I've been reading this, and like you say, there are some things to be skeptical about. On page 232, he is talking about alien grays that are supposedly already on earth doing genetic engineering on people. Then he states: "According to the Bible, there will be a full disclosure of such entities and interpreted as them being 'saviors' of the human race on the brink of the apocalypse." There was no scripture cited - obviously, because it never says that anywhere in the Bible. So while a lot of his information is good, he puts out a lot of theory as if it is fact.
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Post by linda on Sept 12, 2017 20:52:30 GMT -6
I have a hard time believing that something big enough to eclipse the sun isn't now visible in the sky, since we are now only 11 days away.
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Post by mike on Sept 12, 2017 21:02:45 GMT -6
But you have to consider the eclipse itself. Yes the moon in it's 2300 mph orbit can cover the sun for about 7+ minutes. In a new moon we can't see the moon because it's "between earth and the sun"just not passing directly in front of the sun. So in sawdy theory, this rogue planet would have to be between earth and the sun. If that were possible, it would also need to pass between earth and the sun as to block the sun for 3 hrs. In order for a planet to block the sun for 3 hours it would have be either 1. Larger and further away from earth (240,000 miles) than the moon and travelling slower than 2300 mph. Both not likely. 2. Smaller than the moon and travelling slow enough to block the sun and closer than the orbit of the moon in relation to it's size compared to the sun. The sun 400 times the size of the moon yet 400 times further away from earth when compared. So neither of those seem possible to sneak up on us on Sept 23. The only other planetary option would be a planet small enough to fly past earth, yet close enough to cause catastrophic damage, but to keep going and block the earth view of the sun for 3 hours as it travelled directly in our site line between earth and the sun. Something caused a 3 hrs of darkness. It does not say there was an eclipse. So I'm not sold on any 3 hr eclipse even though I believe in the possibility of a Nibiru or rogue planet someplace in the solar system
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Post by MissusMack08 on Sept 12, 2017 21:36:10 GMT -6
mike , doesn't the moon move opposite from the rotation of the earth and that's also partially why eclipses of the sun occur so rapidly? Does your information factor in a planet coming between the earth and sun that is moving in the same direction that we spin? Also, in all the records of the crucifxion darkness, there is no mention of a planet that anyone saw. So, if a planet DID cause the eclipse at Jesus' crucifixion and nobody saw it coming... maybe we won't either?
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Post by MissusMack08 on Sept 12, 2017 21:41:04 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 23:04:18 GMT -6
It is always up to the reader to use discernment given by the Holy Spirit and the bible. No one of us gets all things right all the time.
But there are indeed some hints in the bible on so called aliens, which are IMO demons. Genesis 6, Jude 1:6
But that's not the topic of this thread and I'm not dogmatic on this because it's not required for salvation.
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