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Post by markos on Sept 16, 2017 6:43:15 GMT -6
I still feel like we're missing something. If Yeshua would give us the time of his "First Visitation" to the very day if not the very hour, why would he not give us what we need to find his second visitation? There is just some thing we or I don't see. It can be calculated to there very day of his first coming. - Week of years (shabua or shabu’im) = 7 years - ‘Cut-off’... Hebrew karath = “executed!” - The 70th Week is a future 7 years (Apocalypse!) This prophecy of the coming Messiah is both remarkable and extremely precise. God gave the Jews the most sophisticated calendar on Earth. It is both a Lunar and a Solar calendar. The Jewish calendar uses a 360 day lunar (and prophetic) year and then adds a 'Leap Month' on specific years to accurately coincide with the Solar cycle we use on our 'Julian' calendar ... The Bible uses 360 day years for prophecies and expects us to add the appropriate 'leap months' on schedule. So, the easiest way to unravel this prophecy is to first convert this prophecy into days: - Add 7 + 62 weeks = 69 weeks of years - Multiply 69 (weeks) x 7 (years) = 483 years - Multiply 483 years x 360 days = 173,880 days From the command given to rebuild the temple. So, the prophet Daniel, who lived 500 years before Jesus (Yeshua) wrote that from the day of the commandment to rebuild Jerusalem and its walls, until the coming Messiah would be 173,880 days! Remember ... this mathematical prophecy was also translated from Hebrew into Greek in the Septuagint around 300 years before Jesus made His prophetic entry into Jerusalem, riding on a donkey! God Bless~ 2Ti 2:15 Hi Rick, I completely agree with you that the Lord at the very least has given us markers for the return of Jesus if not a time. I mean this time we are living in has so many prophesies occurring it is borderline scary. I mean although not in the Canon the book of Enoch even tells of abortions in the end days. In Genesis it says that the time of man shall be 120 years. Now, we obviously do not live that long and a generation is 70 years... But, if you multiply 120 by a Jubilee then it becomes interesting. 120x50 = 6000 The Hebrew year is 5777. I truly believe that we are in Mat 24 timeline when these days will be shortened. I personally don't think that the Rapture will occur on the 23rd Sept, but I firmly believe that is definitely a Biblical marker. For me, once the NWO and One World Religion comes in to play then things will happen. There was a prophesy from St Malachy back in the 12th Century who said that this will be the last Pope. Now, if I had heard this 20 years ago I would have laughed it off as nonsense. Now, well it is very much possible..... I mean they will no doubt not require a pope in the One World Religion. Markos |
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Post by barb84 on Sept 16, 2017 7:27:37 GMT -6
I need help understanding. 6000 - 5777=223. What about 223 years? I understand where the six thousand comes from, but not 5777.
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Post by markos on Sept 16, 2017 8:08:55 GMT -6
I need help understanding. 6000 - 5777=223. What about 223 years? I understand where the six thousand comes from, but not 5777. Hi barb84, 5777 is what year it is now in the Hebrew calendar (As in 2017 for us using the Gregorian calendar). So there is a possibility that if the time of man is 120 years (As in Jubilee years) then using the Hebrew calendar there would be 223 years left before our Lords return. But, we are told that these years shall be cut short. Mat 24:22 " 22 If those days had not been cut short, nobody would be saved. But for the sake of the elect, those days will be shortened." Hope this helps Markos |
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Post by Rick on Sept 16, 2017 9:51:16 GMT -6
I still feel like we're missing something. If Yeshua would give us the time of his "First Visitation" to the very day if not the very hour, why would he not give us what we need to find his second visitation? There is just some thing we or I don't see. It can be calculated to there very day of his first coming. - Week of years (shabua or shabu’im) = 7 years - ‘Cut-off’... Hebrew karath = “executed!” - The 70th Week is a future 7 years (Apocalypse!) This prophecy of the coming Messiah is both remarkable and extremely precise. God gave the Jews the most sophisticated calendar on Earth. It is both a Lunar and a Solar calendar. The Jewish calendar uses a 360 day lunar (and prophetic) year and then adds a 'Leap Month' on specific years to accurately coincide with the Solar cycle we use on our 'Julian' calendar ... The Bible uses 360 day years for prophecies and expects us to add the appropriate 'leap months' on schedule. So, the easiest way to unravel this prophecy is to first convert this prophecy into days: - Add 7 + 62 weeks = 69 weeks of years - Multiply 69 (weeks) x 7 (years) = 483 years - Multiply 483 years x 360 days = 173,880 days From the command given to rebuild the temple. So, the prophet Daniel, who lived 500 years before Jesus (Yeshua) wrote that from the day of the commandment to rebuild Jerusalem and its walls, until the coming Messiah would be 173,880 days! Remember ... this mathematical prophecy was also translated from Hebrew into Greek in the Septuagint around 300 years before Jesus made His prophetic entry into Jerusalem, riding on a donkey! God Bless~ 2Ti 2:15 In Genesis it says that the time of man shall be 120 years. Now, we obviously do not live that long and a generation is 70 years... But, if you multiply 120 by a Jubilee then it becomes interesting. 120x50 = 6000 The Hebrew year is 5777. I truly believe that we are in Mat 24 timeline when these days will be shortened. I personally don't think that the Rapture will occur on the 23rd Sept, but I firmly believe that is definitely a Biblical marker Hello markos and and welcome to the forums. I've often wondered about the 120 yr reference being Jubilee yrs. I myself do not know if the "catching away" (rapture) will take place on the 23rd but I do know that we are in the season and my spirit tells me we are very close. As far as the Mat 24: 23 timeline you mentioned, we must rightly divide the scripture 2Ti 2:15. When Yeshua told his disciples about "those days" He was speaking to the Jews, about the Jews and what would happen in the last days. The last days being the 70th week of Daniel. I personally believe that when Yeshua said that because He had not been crucified, burried or resurrected yet He knew nothing of the "catching away" because as Paul tells us in Romans 16:25 (KJV 1900) 25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began.
These are just my thoughts as the Holy Spirit has shown me. God Bless~ 2Ti 2:15
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Post by markos on Sept 16, 2017 10:15:09 GMT -6
Hello markos and and welcome to the forums. I've often wondered about the 120 yr reference being Jubilee yrs. I myself do not know if the "catching away" (rapture) will take place on the 23rd but I do know that we are in the season and my spirit tells me we are very close. As far as the Mat 24: 23 timeline you mentioned, we must rightly divide the scripture 2Ti 2:15. When Yeshua told his disciples about "those days" He was speaking to the Jews, about the Jews and what would happen in the last days. The last days being the 70th week of Daniel. I personally believe that when Yeshua said that because He had not been crucified, burried or resurrected yet He knew nothing of the "catching away" because as Paul tells us in Romans 16:25 (KJV 1900) 25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began.
These are just my thoughts as the Holy Spirit has shown me. God Bless~ 2Ti 2:15
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Post by mike on Sept 16, 2017 10:28:04 GMT -6
I don't have the time to look it up now but the reason for the missing 223 years is the rabbis don't recognize a portion of time which would further confirm who Messiah is/was
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Post by christian on Sept 16, 2017 18:55:52 GMT -6
copperhead ...no scholar here on the Mishna or Talmud, but the teachings from those are man-made arent they? Why would God alter His dates based on the teachings of man? Didnt Jesus adress the pharasees about this too? I can be totally wrong so please don't take that the wrong way. EDIT - This could throw off observant Jews who won't recognize the sign itself for what we think it could be. Lev 25:8 And thou shalt number seven sabbaths of years unto thee, seven times seven years; and the space of the seven sabbaths of years shall be unto thee forty and nine years. 9 Then shalt thou cause the trumpet of the jubile to sound on the tenth day of the seventh month, in the day of atonement shall ye make the trumpet sound throughout all your land. 10 And ye shall hallow the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof: it shall be a jubile unto you; and ye shall return every man unto his possession, and ye shall return every man unto his family. 11 A jubile shall that fiftieth year be unto you: ye shall not sow, neither reap that which groweth of itself in it, nor gather the grapes in it of thy vine undressed. 12 For it is the jubile; it shall be holy unto you: ye shall eat the increase thereof out of the field. The last trump should be on Sept 30 then, correct? |
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Post by Natalie on Sept 16, 2017 19:09:12 GMT -6
I was just watching a video on some of this stuff. It seems that the head of the year (aka Rosh Hashanah) would be moved on a jubilee year, but Yom Teruah (Feasts of Trumpets) doesn't change. It's always 7 days before Yom Kippur. The passage Mike posted does not say anything about moving the FOT, it only states that the trumpet of jubilee is blown on the DOA in a jubilee year.
The thing is, we don't know when the Jubilee year is because Israel has not been keeping them. Yes, we are 100 years from the Balfour Declaration in 1917, and 50 years form the 6 Day War, but we don't know for sure that those are Jubilee years.
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Sept 16, 2017 22:18:32 GMT -6
Lets look at 5777 . For more signs, get this: 5 is the number of grace and 7 complete. Take 5+7+7+7 =26 This is the number of the Gospel of Jesus..
If you take the 223 number (the difference between 5777 and 6000) and add those digits, 2+2+3, you get 7.
I have been reading up on my biblical numbers recently,,,find this math interesting..
found in other threads here, 8 is the number of new beginnings, and as we cross over from FOT it will be 5778...
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Post by markos on Sept 16, 2017 23:38:17 GMT -6
Hi Kaylynn, Just think, if the Hebrew calendar is that far out. This could be why no man knows the day or the hour because the calendar is wrong. I did find a good read about the Jubilees, it described events that occurred on each Jubilee, but, I never really took much notice of it because it had 2017 as the 120th Jubilee. If I find it I will post it here. Markos |
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Post by markos on Sept 16, 2017 23:46:42 GMT -6
Lets look at 5777 . For more signs, get this: 5 is the number of grace and 7 complete. Take 5+7+7+7 =26 This is the number of the Gospel of Jesus.. If you take the 223 number (the difference between 5777 and 6000) and add those digits, 2+2+3, you get 7. I have been reading up on my biblical numbers recently,,,find this math interesting.. found in other threads here, 8 is the number of new beginnings, and as we cross over from FOT it will be 5778... Hi Barbiosheepgirl, I don't know if i'm excited or nervous! It is amazing how many signs there is in this age. Where can I read up on bible numbers? It seems interesting. Also, just out of curiosity, what would 27 represent? (5778 5+7+7+8) Markos |
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Post by whatif on Sept 17, 2017 9:31:11 GMT -6
So glad to be seeing so many new members here in the last few days! Welcome to the forum, copperhead, Christian, and Kaylynn!
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