Post by barbiosheepgirl on Sept 1, 2017 11:30:06 GMT -6
From another location on the DB, from Big Names, but a rabbit hole started...
I am barren woman..
I have no idea what Tiffany is talking about, nor at this point ever will, but I do raise sheep. And get this: I have always wondered why we as Believers are referred to as Sheep. All over the Bible references are made to the Flock, the fold, "My sheep know me" (Jn 10:14) See John 10 in general, and Psalm 23, for starters...
Being a shepherd nearly everything is biblical with them. They do know me. They know my truck when I drive up. I can call them to me and they follow me. A stray sheep is difficult to herd unless you bring them others to help it along. There are often leadersheep in a flock that the rest of the flock rely on for guidance. They fear 'wolves" seek comfort at Home, have safety and assurance in numbers. Have a memory to things both good and bad for them (a rabbit hole here I will go to later sometime). They do not show that they are sick until they really need help, etc. etc...they are not dumb animals, but if you think so, then think of mankind and, then well...another rabbit hole there again...
But lets get to Gestation. The average gestation of a sheep is 147 days. This is 5 moon cycles. I just looked up a woman's gestation in days, 280. This is pretty darn near 10 lunar cycles (9.49 lunar cycles) if all is normal birth timing.
A lamb at this ranch weighs about 8 pounds at birth. I have seen little ones about 4-6 pounds, I have seen HUGE ones 14 pounds or so. My ewes need to be dilated at 10 cm before any lamb could think of passing thru that canal. A breeding ewe can weigh from 100 lbs (that is small) to some approaching 200 or more pounds (big commercial sheep). ( What do we weigh as people? ) Once the head of the lamb is crowned (front legs in proper position too) the rest of the delivery is easy. We wean our lambs about a good 4 months of age. From birth to weaning of a lamb is about the same as the gestation of the human.
Everything about the sheep is so spot on about us humans. Their typical birth weights, their adult weights, their behavior...The only difference is the gestation is roughly half that for a woman...
Marantha!
from BIG NAMES 8 minutes ago
Post by tiffanybw : 8 minutes ago
It's the same with everything... with marriage, with having children and raising a family, watching your children grow and teaching them... how we see them as newborns, when they crawl, their first steps, their first day of school, graduation, they move out on their own and we have to learn to let go of them (really the entire process we are gradually letting go because they must learn on their own, and must eventually choose on their own who they will follow, who they will serve).
The baby will turn in the womb usually around 7 months pregnant. (?) Could be before or after but it happens because the baby is growing and doesn't have room to move like he/she used to. Once the baby turns his/her head presses down. First the baby does engage, head in the birth canal. Then the head presses on Mom's cervix (sorry if too technical lol). All the pressure causes the cervix to efface and then dilate.
Some women go into labor and are hardly dilated at all (usually this is with first baby and first is usually the toughest birth). With each baby though, it was easier (at least for me). With Liam (my 3rd and we have 4 all together); I went for my regular check, the doctor measured... and I was promptly rushed to the hospital. It was crazy because I didn't even really feel like I was in active labor (though I DID feel it later lol). They had a wheelchair waiting for me at the front door. The doctor said I was in labor and almost 5 centimeters dilated and get to the hospital NOW!
Turns out it was all for nothing, as it was a long while before I had him.
It is different, every birth. But just the word "crowning"; God is definitely showing us through how we have our own children.
I do know that once a woman is 10 centimeters dilated that means it is time to push. And a woman will also naturally feel when it is time to push, will feel a great pressure and it is hard to explain the feeling. But you feel like you HAVE TO PUSH NOW! With my youngest I had to push so bad and the doctor wasn't available and the nurses were telling me no don't push and it was so hard not to. I HAD TO. The doctor did get there in time to deliver Angelina!
Once it is time to push, could be a matter of minutes until birth. Or could be hours. Mine always came pretty quickly. I've heard horror stories though of women having had to push so many hours and like they feel like they are going to die because every ounce of strength is gone from them.
One the head is delivered, usually the rest is very fast and the body comes very quickly. So I don't know... maybe that mean's we will be "born" quickly? I hope!
There ya go guys... your lesson of the day on birthing babies!
Post by tiffanybw : 8 minutes ago
43 minutes ago watchmanjim said:
The baby "crowning." I forgot about that word in that context. I never gave birth to a baby, but my wife had quite a collection of them (all mine and hers together), and so I am familiar with the process as a near outsider. There are several stages in the birthing process, including settling, crowning, engagement, etc. Seems the baby has to turn upside down right before it is born. I wonder if any of these things are significant. . . ? Just thinking with my keyboard. . . .
I've thought about it too, and I think they are significant. God is so Incredible and this is why He made the birthing process the way He did, to show us.
The baby "crowning." I forgot about that word in that context. I never gave birth to a baby, but my wife had quite a collection of them (all mine and hers together), and so I am familiar with the process as a near outsider. There are several stages in the birthing process, including settling, crowning, engagement, etc. Seems the baby has to turn upside down right before it is born. I wonder if any of these things are significant. . . ? Just thinking with my keyboard. . . .
I've thought about it too, and I think they are significant. God is so Incredible and this is why He made the birthing process the way He did, to show us.
The baby will turn in the womb usually around 7 months pregnant. (?) Could be before or after but it happens because the baby is growing and doesn't have room to move like he/she used to. Once the baby turns his/her head presses down. First the baby does engage, head in the birth canal. Then the head presses on Mom's cervix (sorry if too technical lol). All the pressure causes the cervix to efface and then dilate.
Some women go into labor and are hardly dilated at all (usually this is with first baby and first is usually the toughest birth). With each baby though, it was easier (at least for me). With Liam (my 3rd and we have 4 all together); I went for my regular check, the doctor measured... and I was promptly rushed to the hospital. It was crazy because I didn't even really feel like I was in active labor (though I DID feel it later lol). They had a wheelchair waiting for me at the front door. The doctor said I was in labor and almost 5 centimeters dilated and get to the hospital NOW!
Turns out it was all for nothing, as it was a long while before I had him.
It is different, every birth. But just the word "crowning"; God is definitely showing us through how we have our own children.
I do know that once a woman is 10 centimeters dilated that means it is time to push. And a woman will also naturally feel when it is time to push, will feel a great pressure and it is hard to explain the feeling. But you feel like you HAVE TO PUSH NOW! With my youngest I had to push so bad and the doctor wasn't available and the nurses were telling me no don't push and it was so hard not to. I HAD TO. The doctor did get there in time to deliver Angelina!
Once it is time to push, could be a matter of minutes until birth. Or could be hours. Mine always came pretty quickly. I've heard horror stories though of women having had to push so many hours and like they feel like they are going to die because every ounce of strength is gone from them.
One the head is delivered, usually the rest is very fast and the body comes very quickly. So I don't know... maybe that mean's we will be "born" quickly? I hope!
There ya go guys... your lesson of the day on birthing babies!
I have no idea what Tiffany is talking about, nor at this point ever will, but I do raise sheep. And get this: I have always wondered why we as Believers are referred to as Sheep. All over the Bible references are made to the Flock, the fold, "My sheep know me" (Jn 10:14) See John 10 in general, and Psalm 23, for starters...
Being a shepherd nearly everything is biblical with them. They do know me. They know my truck when I drive up. I can call them to me and they follow me. A stray sheep is difficult to herd unless you bring them others to help it along. There are often leadersheep in a flock that the rest of the flock rely on for guidance. They fear 'wolves" seek comfort at Home, have safety and assurance in numbers. Have a memory to things both good and bad for them (a rabbit hole here I will go to later sometime). They do not show that they are sick until they really need help, etc. etc...they are not dumb animals, but if you think so, then think of mankind and, then well...another rabbit hole there again...
But lets get to Gestation. The average gestation of a sheep is 147 days. This is 5 moon cycles. I just looked up a woman's gestation in days, 280. This is pretty darn near 10 lunar cycles (9.49 lunar cycles) if all is normal birth timing.
A lamb at this ranch weighs about 8 pounds at birth. I have seen little ones about 4-6 pounds, I have seen HUGE ones 14 pounds or so. My ewes need to be dilated at 10 cm before any lamb could think of passing thru that canal. A breeding ewe can weigh from 100 lbs (that is small) to some approaching 200 or more pounds (big commercial sheep). ( What do we weigh as people? ) Once the head of the lamb is crowned (front legs in proper position too) the rest of the delivery is easy. We wean our lambs about a good 4 months of age. From birth to weaning of a lamb is about the same as the gestation of the human.
Everything about the sheep is so spot on about us humans. Their typical birth weights, their adult weights, their behavior...The only difference is the gestation is roughly half that for a woman...
Marantha!
