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Post by cwood85 on Aug 30, 2017 8:16:26 GMT -6
Don't believe in the Devil? You should, he believes in you.
- quote from the movie Constantine
This video was interesting to say the least... and another to add to the bursting pile of "coincidences." We may not know for absolute certainty what is going to happen, but every bone and fiber in me says something is and it is going to be big very soon!
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Post by stormyknight on Aug 30, 2017 9:08:00 GMT -6
I remember the hype from last year at this time and it makes me wonder if last year was a 'false flag' to give everyone a big let down when nothing happened, even though there were things that did actually happen if you were aware, like the pope addressing the UN, i.e. "I come in my own name". This video, to me, is like Satan mocking God. Saying "look, look! no one is paying attention! I can dangle the date in front of them and they don't even know what it means!! hahahaha!!!" I've got to wonder, for us though, we've got to be patient. My wife has been seeing the numbers 24 and 42 for a couple of years now and just the other day she saw this article, www.unsealed.org/2017/08/could-we-have-wrong-day.html and about fell out of her chair.
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Post by tiffanybw on Aug 30, 2017 10:56:29 GMT -6
I saw that video last night. Crazy for sure! And yes silentknight, I agree with you. We must be patient and trust in Him. God told us that we would not be asleep like those who don't know Him when He returns. And therefore, He would not come upon us as a thief. The reason He won't, is because we will be watching and waiting for Him. Expecting Him. Now, we don't know down to the minute when He will come. We only know that when He does we will not be surprised because we will be watching. Because we are always watching, He rewards us further, gives us more and more clues. The main thing I feel right now when I study and when I pray, like I feel Him telling me: "You STILL don't know it all. And so don't fall for the accusations and deceptions of Satan."
It's how people are. We find a big piece of information... and then we think that means we've got it ALL figured out. No, we don't. What we have, is a big piece of information that we did not previously know. That's it. And I guarantee that something will happen on September 23. Something significant and we should definitely be actively watching during that time because to those with eyes to see and ears to hear, something will be revealed. Or maybe even, we will go Home (and I hope we do)! I don't think we should be dogmatic though, on the "we will go home right at that moment". Because we don't know for sure. And Satan loves to deceive and play tricks. He will try and use whatever is from God and twist it, deceive with it, accuse with it. And just that there are so many people who think that September 23 = Rapture Day. Maybe. Maybe not. For sure though, whatever happens, Satan will use to try and deceive. For those of the crowd who are so sure we are going Home that day... if we don't... satan will attack and cause them to doubt God. He will say something like... "Oh see! See, I told you! Look how God lied to you!"
Well, NO. Because "we" mankind are the ones who equate September 23 = Rapture Day. Not God. We ourselves decided that. Where as God has just told us that this is important and it is the fulfillment of Revelation 12:1-2. Not 3 though. Not 4. Not 5. Now... could be. It could all happen so fast and bam, bam, bam and we are Home with Him. I want for it to be that way! But I also know that the way I want is never the best way. The best way is always God's Way. Like stormyknight says, above all we must remain patient, calm, and watching. We won't miss His Coming because we will be watching. But if something doesn't happen like we *think*, and then we get mad and throw a tantrum i.e. stop watching... do that and one could miss His Coming. We know the hour and we are there and at the hour! So now, be patient, and watch. If we do that we definitely will not miss His Coming, whatever the minute of it is, we will know because we will be watching. Question though about the video: A few times was the number 44 or 4:44. Does anyone know the significance of that?
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Post by stormyknight on Aug 30, 2017 11:33:51 GMT -6
One thing I was taught about Satan is that he cannot read our minds. I can't remember where I learned that, but, I'm thinking if we apply the Miranda Law, "You have the right to remain silent", and pray and be patient, then Satan cannot deceive or accuse us, right? Hope for an early rapture, but wait for it, sisters and brothers, wait for it! About the 4:44, I always understood 444 to mean that 'the angels are about you' or 'angels are close'. If I may I have a story, one of both confession and of witness that concerns the number 444. When I was in high school, I was a little on the shady side of things, not a bad kid or anything, just into drugs a bit. Speed(amphetamines) was my thing. Anyway, one night, I was almost out of pills so for the hell of it, I took the rest of what I had and went to bed. Stupid, I know. Speed before bed. Well, I woke up staring at my digital alarm clock at exactly 4:44. It seemed to take forever for it to pass to 4:45. I've cleaned up since then, married w/kids, even one grandkid now, but throughout my life I've seen the number 444 off and on at different times. About three years ago I finally looked up to see what the number means and that's when I got "the angels are about you" and I thought 'wow, that's nice, maybe they saved my life that night, huh, weird' and then didn't think much about it. My wife and I were starting to get more signals about the upcoming signs, but weren't discerning them yet. Then, two years ago, in July, my mom passed away, two of my brothers, my sister and my dad were there when my wife and I got there as my mom was in her last throes of death. No one was saying anything. My wife, meek as she is, begins to talk to my mom, which breaks the ice in the room and we all kind of start hovering over mom. Dad had been sitting there holding her hand. Anyway, as my wife is talking to her, she said, and I literally quote her, "Look for the angels, Mary" and when she did I looked at the clock and it was 4:44. The even stranger part is, Dad never like to change his clock to daylight saving time, so it was actually 5:44 in the morning. Her official time of death is posted as 5:57. No one, I repeat, no one will ever make me believe that there were not angels in that room with us. Whether to help my mom or to comfort us, I don't know, but I know they were there.
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Post by watchmanjim on Aug 30, 2017 13:18:09 GMT -6
Where does the 444 number idea come from? Does it have to do with Ezekiel 1?
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Post by stormyknight on Aug 30, 2017 17:50:09 GMT -6
Wow, watchmanjim, it has been a long time since I've read that. I had forgotten about the four living creatures with the four faces and four wings. 4 4 4. That very well could be where that comes from. I really don't know, though.
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Post by whatif on Aug 30, 2017 21:06:29 GMT -6
The Little Shop of Horrors moment at about time mark 4:28 reminded me that I recently saw an advertisement here in town for the stage show at one of our historic theaters. It ran from August 18 through August 20, just before the total solar eclipse. Here's a link... Source: "Little Shop of Horrors Presented by Elsinore Theatrical Productions," The Elsinore, 30 August 2017, elsinoretheatre.com/event-details-little-shop-horrors.html
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Post by bella on Aug 31, 2017 6:33:06 GMT -6
I just read that it is believed that Jesus ministry lasted 44 months and 4 days. That could explain the 444 numbers. Also, Revelation has 22 chapters and it's over. No 23...
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Post by MissusMack08 on Sept 1, 2017 4:09:53 GMT -6
One thing I was taught about Satan is that he cannot read our minds. I can't remember where I learned that, but, I'm thinking if we apply the Miranda Law, "You have the right to remain silent", and pray and be patient, then Satan cannot deceive or accuse us, right? Hope for an early rapture, but wait for it, sisters and brothers, wait for it! About the 4:44, I always understood 444 to mean that 'the angels are about you' or 'angels are close'. If I may I have a story, one of both confession and of witness that concerns the number 444. When I was in high school, I was a little on the shady side of things, not a bad kid or anything, just into drugs a bit. Speed(amphetamines) was my thing. Anyway, one night, I was almost out of pills so for the hell of it, I took the rest of what I had and went to bed. Stupid, I know. Speed before bed. Well, I woke up staring at my digital alarm clock at exactly 4:44. It seemed to take forever for it to pass to 4:45. I've cleaned up since then, married w/kids, even one grandkid now, but throughout my life I've seen the number 444 off and on at different times. About three years ago I finally looked up to see what the number means and that's when I got "the angels are about you" and I thought 'wow, that's nice, maybe they saved my life that night, huh, weird' and then didn't think much about it. My wife and I were starting to get more signals about the upcoming signs, but weren't discerning them yet. Then, two years ago, in July, my mom passed away, two of my brothers, my sister and my dad were there when my wife and I got there as my mom was in her last throes of death. No one was saying anything. My wife, meek as she is, begins to talk to my mom, which breaks the ice in the room and we all kind of start hovering over mom. Dad had been sitting there holding her hand. Anyway, as my wife is talking to her, she said, and I literally quote her, "Look for the angels, Mary" and when she did I looked at the clock and it was 4:44. The even stranger part is, Dad never like to change his clock to daylight saving time, so it was actually 5:44 in the morning. Her official time of death is posted as 5:57. No one, I repeat, no one will ever make me believe that there were not angels in that room with us. Whether to help my mom or to comfort us, I don't know, but I know they were there. I have heard that before too, that Satan can't read your mind, but I don't know if it's actually scriptural. I think people just say that to keep people from feeling scared about what they can't see or feel, in an attempt to "take power away from Satan," However, it may actually set them up for spiritual oppression. I think I could make a case, based on experience not scripture, that angels/fallen angels/demons can read your mind. For the bad ones, it's part of how they deceive you. But it doesn't matter if they can or can't. We have authority over them through Christ. But you have to know how they work, and for the most part people are oblivious to the warfare all around them. Then they wonder why they keep struggling with a particular sin. I got my first degree in psychology and actually had considered becoming a psychiatric nurse practitioner before God revealed to me the gift of discerning spirits. It was like a veil was lifted. I stepped through the looking glass. I quickly came to realize that for the most part, psychological disorders are demonically induced. That's not to say their aren't medical conditions that do cause such issues and medications can help. But by and large, it's a spiritual attack on your mind. I learned all this the hard way—getting a good hard look at my sin and the spiritual consequences of it, which included anxiety, depression, insomnia, self-loathing, and narcissism. Demons gone—psychological problems gone.
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Post by watchmanjim on Sept 1, 2017 9:34:29 GMT -6
Yes, MM, I think you are right about everything you said there. My only qualifier would be that I don't know for a fact whether they can read our mind directly or not. I think they have at least a partial ability to do so. But whether or not they can read our inmost thoughts I do not know. They can certainly influence our thoughts, which is problematic, but learning to recognize it for what it is has been helpful to me, along with learning to cry out to the Lord when I recognize I am under attack.
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Post by tiffanybw on Sept 2, 2017 18:38:06 GMT -6
I think about the same way Jim does about it.
I don't think they can actually read a person's thoughts. But they do everything but. They are professionals at everything "human". I believe they study us, study action and words spoken out loud. Not only that, but there is more to communication than spoken words. There is body language and also, don't really know how to say it right; but that which is spiritual. Well, they ARE spiritual, exist in that realm, know it way better than humans do. And so I believe they gather lots of information that way.
They use all of that to attack a person. And do even though they can't read our actual thoughts, with all they can do it makes it seem like they can. And of course, they'll never tell a person the truth, will let the person believe whatever they want. Without The Holy Spirit, if demons decide to attack, the person is A GONER.
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Post by watchmanjim on Sept 3, 2017 21:38:41 GMT -6
One of the saddest things I observed along these lines was when I was a teenager, going on visitation with my pastor up in Maine. We visited this woman whom I believe had visited our church once or twice. She was glad for the visit, and told us many things, including how she had been physically attacked by demons multiple times. The sad thing was, my pastor didn't seem to believe her. He didn't argue with her, but he didn't have anything helpful to say because I don't think he had any training or experience with this type of spiritual warfare. This is something that every Christian should know about.
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Post by bella on Sept 3, 2017 21:58:07 GMT -6
Satan is fine with it when Christians don't believe that he and his minions are real. Unfortunately, most pastors don't seem to have any training in the area of deliverance from oppression and possession, and worse, no discernment of it. And yet, Jesus commanded his apostles to do just that, just like Jesus himself did. It's another way the church has fallen into apostasy. Is it any wonder these same pastors can't discern when God is speaking through signs?
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Post by cwood85 on Sept 4, 2017 9:52:38 GMT -6
One of the saddest things I observed along these lines was when I was a teenager, going on visitation with my pastor up in Maine. We visited this woman whom I believe had visited our church once or twice. She was glad for the visit, and told us many things, including how she had been physically attacked by demons multiple times. The sad thing was, my pastor didn't seem to believe her. He didn't argue with her, but he didn't have anything helpful to say because I don't think he had any training or experience with this type of spiritual warfare. This is something that every Christian should know about. I believe it. I do feel some are more sensitive/susceptible to this than others as well. Why I am not sure, but this is just an opinion of mine. I believe I was under such an attack for the last year up until about six months ago. I was in a deep deep depression, my life in shambles (still trying to fix some of that mess to make my wrongs right) and had finally come to a how and a where to end my life. I couldn't see a way out and was trying to fix my troubles and problems entirely myself. I was seeing therapist, got diagnosed with severe ADHD and major depressive disorder. Medication didn't work, therapy didn't work, my husband didn't know what to do as he could see me going down the rabbit hole and felt helpless. When I found an old leash in my garage that would work as a method to hang myself, I finally broke down and begged, pleaded with God to help me. I didn't want to die, but in my mind and my internal turmoil was at the point of no return. It didn't happen immediately, but over the next couple of weeks after my prayers, I began to feel a peace and comfort that I had not felt in years. The sense of worthlessness and not wanting to live anymore melted away. I started attending church and reading the Bible again, and my eyes started to open more about the events happening now. I am so ever grateful and thankful to our Lord and savior. Unbelievably humbled in his healing so that I could see his coming at his time, not by my own hand. I was saved as a teenager and never lost my beliefs that Jesus is my savior. But I walked away for far to long and was prone to such attacks. While I am not discouraging depression as a real medical condition or the need for medication, our God is a powerful God and can do anything! I don't take medication anymore however, just do not feel it was doing anything.
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Post by whatif on Sept 4, 2017 12:16:01 GMT -6
Praise the Lord! Beautiful testimony, cwood85!
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