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Post by watchman35 on Aug 27, 2017 14:18:40 GMT -6
I have thus far been unsuccessful in attempting to find any information on the Feast of Trumpets specifically related to the traditional and exact timing that the 100th and last trumpet blast of Yom Teruah occurs (the Tekiah Hagadol). Has anyone in their research been able to find any explanation on the timing of when the Tekiah Hagadol is actually blown? Is it on the second day, at the end of the day as the sun sets (i.e., as day turns to night in the "twinkling of an eye")?
Would appreciate any insight that our community has to offer on this topic. Thanks in advance.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 14:29:10 GMT -6
Check out this video:
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Post by watchman35 on Aug 27, 2017 15:08:54 GMT -6
Thanks for the suggestion Sam. Unfortunately, after watching the video, it did not speak to my question at all. I am looking for the specific time of day that the Tekia Hagadol is blown each year. Like noon, 3PM, at sundown on the second day, etc. Still would appreciate anyone's feedback who has insight or knowledge on this. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 15:53:06 GMT -6
Yes, my apologies on the video...it was interesting but didn't specifically address your question. The following link is impressive, with the following excerpt: "Laws of Shofar Blowing The commandment to hear the shofar blowing requires conscious intent to fulfill the mitzva. Because this is a legal action, it must take place during daylight hours, from sun up till sun down. Thos who hurry to fulfill the mitzva are praise worthy." Again, it does not explicitly address your question, but at the bottom of the page, the author welcomes questions and provides his email address.....I expect he would know the answer to your question! www.betemunah.org/teruah.html
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Post by MissusMack08 on Aug 28, 2017 18:55:38 GMT -6
I wanted to weep while watching this video. I know it didn't address the OP's question but WOW! "To confuse Satan...": maybe the "Last Trump" according to God is WITHIN the 100 blasts since even the Jews don't know exactly what pattern they're supposed to blow the shofar on that day. Then, nobody would know which day leading up to it or which hour on the day the "Last Trump" will sound. I was so saddened and burdened to hear the explanation for why they celebrate it and how shallow it sounds, when we can see so clearly the deeper meaning and LONG for that day.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 19:14:57 GMT -6
I agree Missus....it is sad, and fascinating simultaneously....look at all the effort they put into it just to "cover all the bases" in their minds......soon maybe they will see Mercy and Grace!
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Post by MissusMack08 on Aug 28, 2017 23:47:44 GMT -6
I agree Missus....it is sad, and fascinating simultaneously....look at all the effort they put into it just to "cover all the bases" in their minds......soon maybe they will see Mercy and Grace! Yes it is fascinating also. They do all these things to keep the letter of the Law without understanding the purpose of the Law to begin with.
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Post by MissusMack08 on Aug 29, 2017 0:16:53 GMT -6
I have thus far been unsuccessful in attempting to find any information on the Feast of Trumpets specifically related to the traditional and exact timing that the 100th and last trumpet blast of Yom Teruah occurs (the Tekiah Hagadol). Has anyone in their research been able to find any explanation on the timing of when the Tekiah Hagadol is actually blown? Is it on the second day, at the end of the day as the sun sets (i.e., as day turns to night in the "twinkling of an eye")? Would appreciate any insight that our community has to offer on this topic. Thanks in advance. Watchman35, I think I found what your looking for. I hope anyway. www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/guide-to-the-rosh-hashanah-morning-serviceI believe what that article is saying is that they are all blown during the morning synagogue service on both days... 10 after each of three themes of 10 verses (30 total), 20 after the repitition of each of these themes (60 total) and 10 shofar blasts at the conclusion. However, they mention both morning and evening services, but don't explicitly say if anything is occurring during the evening service. I'll keep looking since I'm up.
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Post by MissusMack08 on Aug 29, 2017 0:36:14 GMT -6
I have thus far been unsuccessful in attempting to find any information on the Feast of Trumpets specifically related to the traditional and exact timing that the 100th and last trumpet blast of Yom Teruah occurs (the Tekiah Hagadol). Has anyone in their research been able to find any explanation on the timing of when the Tekiah Hagadol is actually blown? Is it on the second day, at the end of the day as the sun sets (i.e., as day turns to night in the "twinkling of an eye")? Would appreciate any insight that our community has to offer on this topic. Thanks in advance. This one gives some more fascinating details, but says there is a custom of the shofar blasts being done at noon but within the same prayer structure. So maybe the morning service stretches on with all the additional prayers and Torah readings such that it is around noon by the time they get to the shofar blasts? www.yeshiva.co/midrash/shiur.asp?id=6251
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Post by MissusMack08 on Aug 29, 2017 0:46:11 GMT -6
Something interesting to note that very well could happen this year... they don't blow the shofar on Shabbat. Sept 23 is the day portion of Shabbat for that weekend. Also, they only blow it during the day, not night. So, if the new moon is sighted the evening of the 22nd, then no shofar would be blown the next day even though it would be the Feast of Trumpets (according to God, not the calendar).
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Post by MissusMack08 on Aug 29, 2017 0:53:18 GMT -6
I have thus far been unsuccessful in attempting to find any information on the Feast of Trumpets specifically related to the traditional and exact timing that the 100th and last trumpet blast of Yom Teruah occurs (the Tekiah Hagadol). Has anyone in their research been able to find any explanation on the timing of when the Tekiah Hagadol is actually blown? Is it on the second day, at the end of the day as the sun sets (i.e., as day turns to night in the "twinkling of an eye")? Would appreciate any insight that our community has to offer on this topic. Thanks in advance. mazornet.com/holidays/RoshHashanah/shofar.htmThis one says it all happens in the morning service but not on Shabbat. I would guess the final blast would be around noon.
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Post by watchmanjim on Aug 29, 2017 1:03:53 GMT -6
Something interesting to note that very well could happen this year... they don't blow the shofar on Shabbat. Sept 23 is the day portion of Shabbat for that weekend. Also, they only blow it during the day, not night. So, if the new moon is sighted the evening of the 22nd, then no shofar would be blown the next day even though it would be the Feast of Trumpets (according to God, not the calendar). Wow, the plot thickens!
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Post by MissusMack08 on Aug 29, 2017 1:13:13 GMT -6
Something interesting to note that very well could happen this year... they don't blow the shofar on Shabbat. Sept 23 is the day portion of Shabbat for that weekend. Also, they only blow it during the day, not night. So, if the new moon is sighted the evening of the 22nd, then no shofar would be blown the next day even though it would be the Feast of Trumpets (according to God, not the calendar). Wow, the plot thickens! I know, right? What does it mean?? Should I start a new thread to start more discussion on this?
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Post by watchmanjim on Aug 29, 2017 1:35:17 GMT -6
Might not be a bad idea, or we can continue talking about it here. Or there may be another FOT thread out there--it's getting late--I mean early--here though and I should go to bed.
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Post by rt on Aug 30, 2017 11:55:25 GMT -6
I have shared this on other threads, but I do not think we should look at current Jewish practice of the feasts to interpret fulfillment of prophecy. Jesus Himself is the last trumpet, not some Jewish religious figure blowing a horn at the feast of trumpets. The feasts as they are celebrated today have very little semblance to how the Jews were instructed to celebrate them in the law.
Not trying to be contrary, just adding my own two cents.
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