The Coming War - Call to arms! Sept 2, 2017 21:09:22 GMT -6 watchmanjim, whatif, and 2 more like this
Post by tiffanybw on Sept 2, 2017 21:09:22 GMT -6
I've just finished reading this thread and all I can say... Wow!
I feel as silentknight does, that we definitely have a role to play; both right now and in the battle to come.
In reading this thread the main thing that is impressed upon me strongly is how much there is that we still do not know or understand. This past year of 2017, God has revealed SO MUCH. Daily, He reveals something else. And I think... just that... we ain't seen nothing yet!
My thoughts are that it is so important that we all, collectively, His Body; stay in constant prayer, drawing ever closer to Him, yielding everything to Him and even when we think we've yielded All... to give even more... to consciously think about it as we go throughout each day. Whether we are a stay at home mom, in school, at work, and whatever we are doing... to spiritually make sure we are with Him, talking to Him (praying), asking Him what to do, how to do it, where He needs us, to use us as He sees fit, to reveal to us and cause us to understand the things/the knowledge He wishes to impart to us. And so, no matter what, no matter where we are physically, spiritually to make sure we are always present with Him. I truly think it is the only way to make it through the days to come.
For right now, I think by doing that we indeed are engaging in battle, fighting for Him. Because right now, we are not yet whole. We still are with sin presently. And so only HE can do the actual fighting. I truly believe though that He draws strength from us, just from knowing that we are with Him as much as we possibly can be, and that His Great Love for us... it is not for nothing, that by Him making the decision He Did to NOT just wipe the slate clean and start over... That that was the right decision. And that we are not down here goofing off, not down here rolling in the mud with all the sinners who don't know Him, that we are trying the best we can to make Him, our Father, proud of us. And to let Him know with every ounce of our being that we love Him just as much as He Loves us... Or at least as much as we are capable of "love" in this present sinful condition in which we exist.
I don't know... I just think that means SO MUCH to HIM. He loves us and He has chosen us. All He wants in return for ALL He has done for us (which even we who know Him can not even begin to imagine just what He has done, how much He has sacrificed); all He wants in return is for us to choose Him back.
So, it's not that God "needs" anything from us. He chose us though, and chooses to need us; and so yes, He NEEDS our prayer, our worship, our everything! The same as He has given us His Everything! Difficult to put into words, but with God there is no time (also something that is just so difficult for us to understand in our present condition but I do think He is revealing to us bit by bit and so we are starting to gain some understanding). With God, and Him knowing the beginning and the end already; He STILL chose us.
I don't even know half what I'm thinking right now, lol, but just that the verses in the first post from Revelation 12... try and think about them like if there was no such thing as "time". For example, Revelation 12:11 says: "And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb (Jesus), and by the word of their testimony (the condition of our heart; choosing Him as Lord and Savior); and they loved not their lives unto the death (to choose one's physical, sinful, corrupt life; IS death, is what death is)."
Ok... so I used to think of that verse in the context that it refers to only the Tribulation Saints. But now, not so much. I mean, it does refer to them. But it also refers to us, to everyone whom Jesus died for. Time aside, that means everyone who was alive before Jesus came to earth, during, and after. Because people in the Old Testament, they were just people, and they did sin. They tried their best to keep God's Law but we all know that they didn't, they couldn't, it was impossible then and it is impossible now. God still knew their hearts though. Ugh so hard to even say with words!!! But Jesus sacrifice, it applies to them too. It's just we can't fully understand right now because we do not understand existence without time being the main factor of it. Someday we will understand.
The reason I quoted you Jim... because I think you have hit on a BIG part of it, of the current battle and what our role is in it. The Angels. And to pray for them, of course we should! Me too, I've never even thought about praying for them, and really, have always imagined them to be... not gods... but spiritually, way higher, way more... than I am and than we humans are. I have always thought about it like they are already sinless and they help us. Not that we should pray to them because we should not. But they God's Angels; that they go to God, get their instructions from Him, and then carry those instructions out. Those instructions, I've always thought a big part of them are in reference to us His Children, and in watching over us, protecting us both from Satan and from the fallen ones.
I still think that. But in reading what you said... just YES and ABSOLUTELY... we should be praying to Jesus that He will give His Angel's strength, power, perseverance, understanding of the enemy, and really... pretty much all of the same things we pray for ourselves. Because right now, they are doing the majority of the fighting. And they have access to Heaven and so we know they are without sin. But as has been demonstrated in the past... they are capable of falling just as the watcher angels did in the days of Noah. I don't know for sure, but it is possible that just as they were capable to fall then, they are still capable to fall now. Another of those things that we just don't have full understanding about yet.
Now, once we are caught up, and receive our glorified bodies: First, I definitely think there will be, like the biggest celebration EVER!!! Because not only will we have been caught up, but Satan and those who are Satan's will have been cast down (also so many interesting things said in this thread about that and I'm going to pray about it because as of now... my mind has been sent reeling yet again... and I haven't a clue).
First will be celebration though. Then maybe some teaching, we being the students. Then though, I think that 100% we are going to play a role as part of God's Army. We will FIGHT right alongside God's Angels! And we will be way more effective than we are now, because we will no longer be corrupt and sin filled. I think we are going to FIGHT for those people who are still on the earth stuck there with Satan and his fallen ones. It's going to be a battle like has never been seen before in history. It's scary to think about, it's also exciting to think about!
Also, it is comforting to think about. Because I spend SO MUCH of my time worrying about and praying for those I love, my husband, my children, my family. Quite simply, I don't "know" the condition of their hearts. And so it is not for me to say for sure whether or not they will go with me in the Rapture. I have questions about many of them though, am just not sure. And so, regardless of what happens... even if they are not taken because the condition of their hearts are just not right quite yet... THEY WILL BE! Because I am, we are... going to get the chance to FIGHT FOR THEM, for their very souls and eternal lives. And I know that everyone here... that all of you love your family and your friends just as much as I love mine. I believe we are going to get the opportunity to FIGHT for them, and I am so happy to have that opportunity. And Praise God, in knowing that... just that we won't be up there sipping pina colada's and lounging on clouds... we WILL have a job to do, a role... and just as God never gave up on me, and how He still hasn't given up on them... me neither! I WILL NOT GIVE UP ON THEM. I WILL NOT let Satan have not even ONE of them!
I mean... even though sometimes with some of them... well... let's just say that there are times that I'd like to give them back exactly that which they've given me and then some! Maybe even wish upon them the same kind of hurt that they have caused me. That is wrong though. That is the sin in me. And God will deal with that, the same as He will deal with me because I am hardly innocent; and have caused many pain and hurt.
For right now, like silentknight says, we FIGHT and the best way to do that currently is by staying close to Him, actively and intentionally pursuing Him more and more and more and not stopping until He comes to get us! And yes... praying for God's Angels also! And then, when we get to Heaven... I can't wait! And WATCH OUT SATAN because we ARE coming for you.