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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 8:59:13 GMT -6
Possibly! It's going to happen And we will find out later how it went down!
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Post by socalexile on Aug 14, 2017 9:51:50 GMT -6
I think that they know what God has allowed them to know. Don't worry too much about what demons can do, instead focus on what the Lord has done. Are you saying I am not focus on what the Lord has done? No. I'm saying that it doesn't matter what they know. The Lord has already won the war. There tends to be too much focus and too much credit given to the Devil and his lackeys. A lot of people almost elevate him to a god. He's just a finite being, created in eternity, but limited nonetheless. Sorry for not expounding. It's a bit of a peeve of mine. It seems some Christians (not accusing you here) blame Satan for everything they don't like in their lives - no, just no. We're all fallible human beings and sometimes adversity is due to us following our own lusts.  Sorry for venting. |
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Post by watchmanjim on Aug 14, 2017 10:06:14 GMT -6
socal, there is some truth to what you are saying. We really don't need to worry about the enemy and his machinations, as long as we are in the center (or "totality!") of God's will for our lives. And it is always wrong to give any kind of praise or too much acknowledgement to the enemy.
But.
We are not wrong to learn about our enemy. And it is one of the biggest questions in all of spirituality, how it can be that he actually seems to think he can defeat the Almighty God of the universe. What makes him so blind? Does he actually think that absurdity?
Anyway, let's all be kind as we deal with each other.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 10:20:17 GMT -6
Yes, WJ.. again...
2 Peter 1:5-8
And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, and to virtue knowledge; And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
This is the order of growth:
1- faith
2- knowledge
3- temperance
4- patience
5- godliness
6- brotherly kindness
7- charity
and again...
Colossians 3:4-14 4When Christ, who is your life, appears, then you also will appear with him in glory. 5Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry. 6Because of these, the wrath of God is coming. 7You used to walk in these ways, in the life you once lived. 8But now you must also rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips. 9Do not lie to each other, since you have taken off your old self with its practices 10and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator. 11Here there is no Gentile or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all. 12Therefore, as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience. 13Bear with each other and forgive one another if any of you has a grievance against someone. Forgive as the LORD forgave you. 14And over all these virtues put on love, which binds them all together in perfect unity.
We need to be kind to one another.
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Post by watchmanjim on Aug 14, 2017 10:23:19 GMT -6
I don't think you meant to, but you left out virtue! (#2)
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Post by watchmanjim on Aug 14, 2017 10:24:41 GMT -6
And yet abideth these three, faith, hope, and charity, but the greatest of these is charity.
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Post by tiffanybw on Aug 14, 2017 10:52:41 GMT -6
I always wonder what was said during the 7 thunderings, I assumed it was hidden from humans, but it may have another reason to be hidden. yardstick, Thank you for sharing. It is a common teaching that Christmas is not the date of Jesus birth, because it is on a pagan holiday, but with foreknowledge of a future event allowed by God they created pagan holiday to mark the Jesus' birth. Something interesting to share, while most Jews could not see instantly who Jesus really was there was some exceptions: 1) Nathanael (Israelite in whom there is no deceit) saw who he really was(John 1:47-49) 2) Simeon(righteous jew) was told by Holy Spirit who he really was(Luke 2:25-32) 3) impure spirits(full of deceit) Mark 1:24 Luke 4:34 could also see who Jesus really was. Any idea why major events happen on December 26? My wife and I was led by the Holy Spirit to make the largest stock donation in our life to a Christian Emergency Aid Organization exactly so the money was made available(after selling it) few days later exactly on Dec 26, 2004, on the exact day of Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami. It is amazing how God works. I remember the tsunami in so much detail. I was glued to my television, made donations, cried and cried for those people, wished I could somehow go there and help them. I was not saved then. But that is when God first woke me up as to the world around me and that there was more in existence than just me, my family, my friends, The United States of America. I became aware of the world and the many in it who suffer. I wasn't saved immediately after, fought with God for years. It was at that moment though, I became quite the philanthropist and for a long time after found it difficult to enjoy anything because I felt guilty I was enjoying while other people were suffering. Became interested in other nations and cultures and read so many books about many different conflicts in various countries in Africa (I developed a love for and still have such a love for Africa), in Asia... Cambodia, Burma. I read a lot and learned a lot. About what Satan knows, I think along the same lines of Whatif. When God created us, He chose us. Then when we fell (Adam and Eve), fell again (events leading to flood), fell again (tower of babel), fell again (not being able to follow God's Law and so He sent us Jesus), again (we killed Jesus), many more things but you get the point. And so, God has chosen us over and over again. God could have easily made us so that we automatically followed Him. And I believe why God put the tree in the Garden of Eden, He wanted Adam and Eve to choose Him. Not because they were created to, not because they had to. But because they loved Him so much they wanted to. They, of their own will, voluntarily submitting themselves to He who created them, who loved them so much, who chose them. He wanted them to love Him with that same love He had for them, with a true and joyful unconditional love. As we all know, they did not choose Him. And ever since, many do not choose Him. All that God has gone through for us over all these thousands of years, because He wants us to choose Him. All that is happening now, because He wants us to choose Him, to love Him, to trust Him. It is what Salvation is, choosing Him.God didn't want to be our master as if we were slaves. If one looks back upon slavery in the Bible, there were slaves that were kept against their will. Also though there were slaves who chose their master, who served their master because they loved their master and they wanted to serve him. I think it is the reason God allowed slavery in the first place, to give humanity a picture that they could understand. He does it with so many things, everything in life and that happens to us in this temporary life, mothers, fathers, and children being another example, to show us, give us a picture, just like the parables Jesus told in the Bible... all so we can understand Him better; speaking to us in terms that we can understand. It is what this life is all about, deciding whether or not we will choose Him. Satan is for sure round and about, and everywhere. Not that he is omniscient like God. But he is like the head of an evil body, all that is sin, all that is wrong. Satan's body, those who choose Satan, either by intention and knowingly, or by refusing to make a choice for God and refusing to choose anyone or anything except for themselves. The angel's that followed Satan, demons, all that is evil; running about doing his work. And I think that Satan knows God's Word forwards and backwards, better than any of us do. In addition, he knows God up close and personal because he was with God, the angel held in highest esteem, in human terms he was "Hand of the King" to God, who is THE KING. Satan wasn't happy being only Hand of the King (don't know if anyone has ever watched Game of Thrones and not saying it is a Godly television show; but whomever writes that show I guarantee is heavily in occult and most likely a follower of Satan, as many parallels can be drawn between that show and Scripture, but also that tv show twists scripture... definitely of Satan... meant to confuse people so they will choose Satan). Satan wanted to BE The King. He knows a lot, as Whatif said, whatever God allows him to know. He is kind of like the tree that was in the Garden of Eden and the earth kind of like the Garden of Eden. It's just much worse here, more than only a tree to watch out for, because Satan is the prince of this current and fallen earth. And so, he knows a lot. The reason God allows him to do what he does, is the same reason the tree was there in the Garden of Eden. He wants us to choose Him, to love Him as He loves us. Not because we have to, but because we want to. We experience Satan's attacks and accusations constantly. God allows it because He knows the big picture, and He wants us to choose Him, and to trust Him with all that we don't know. Because HE does know. I had never been attacked by Satan so much as when I first became a believer. After I chose Jesus I was literally attacked, it was awful, it was scary, it was horrible, and even when I reached out to brothers and sisters in Christ to try and get help... like they didn't believe me and thought I was crazy, told me God would not allow such dreams, told me that I was not being attacked by Satan because it was not possible for a Christian with The Holy Spirit, not possible to happen. They suggested a psychiatrist and therapy. Well, I wasn't crazy and I'm not crazy. I was diagnosed a long time back with panic attacks, still get them now to this day, though not as often as I used to. That was psychological (though there could have been a spiritual component). What happened to me was WAY different from a panic attack, very real, more real than this physical world around us. God brought me through it though. Yes, He allowed it to happen. And I'm glad He did! I know that seems a strange thing to say. But there was much sin in my life that did not just "poof" and disappear when I gave my life to Jesus. Believe me when I say that Jesus had A LOT of work to do with me. He did. One thing at a time He convicted me, I resisted and did not listen at first, I was attacked. Stupid me, I should never have fought God. But you know how people are, and I thought I knew better, would even talk to God before willfully committing sin and make excuses to Him as to why it was ok that I was getting ready to do what I was and how I knew how He would "understand", and just on and on. (My biggest sin stronghold was alcohol and it was the last thing to go, the last thing God dealt with). Over and over it happened, me giving in to this sin (my husband is unfortunately an alcoholic and drinks all the time and so even after I decided to stop, it was hard and it was always right there in front of me and so hard to say no to... my feeble attempt at an excuse lol). And so... "Just this one last time Jesus". That very night and for a few nights after, demonic attack. You think I would have learned after the first 4 or 5 times. But nope. It is not that I didn't notice or that it was no big deal. It did impact me, oh did it!!! I started going longer and longer between giving in to the sin. But after a few weeks or after a month would give in (and by this time I knew very well just why I was being demonically attacked... that darkness and light CAN NOT reside together in the same body, that God was removing His Hand of Protection from me and allowing it to happen to me... and as time went on, even though the amount of time between drinking increased and I didn't do it as much, when I did... the attacks got worse and worse. Until finally, I said ENOUGH, I truly repented (this is a major problem for so many Christians because IMO they don't understand the difference between saying sorry and repenting). Well, a few months ago, I had this wonderful dream. It was more than a "dream", and just like the demonic attacks except beautiful, incredible, so joyful, so amazing... difficult to explain but very real, more real than what is around me in this room I am in right now. I don't remember all of it. But I do remember at first I was on the ground and looking at all these huge tornado like storms all around me. There were other people there and seemed like I knew all of them but no one's name came to mind in the dream. Also, I remember thinking in the dream to myself that I should be afraid right now and so it was weird how I wasn't and I was just watching out of a sliding glass door. Next thing I remember, like I was in the sky looking down upon it all. I knew I had been raptured and was with Jesus and felt so joyful, but also like I was there for a purpose, that it was a serious situation, not afraid, but maybe I was involved in some type of battle? There were many in the sky with me; looking down upon the earth, it was dark (not completely pitch black as I could see), like the air was either thick fog or dust, and then these big tornado type huge funnels everywhere. Next thing I remember is a man hugging me and I knew it was Jesus. He was holding me like one would hold a child and hugging me. I did not see His Face but I knew it was Him. And I will never forget what He said to me. He said, "Well just look at you. You didn't turn out so bad now did ya? I'm proud of you."He said that, though I don't know if it was exactly those words, or even if He said it audibly out loud to me, maybe communicating through the spirit and how when you read one of those stories about a person whom has had a near death experience and how there aren't necessarily words spoken but they just know. It is so hard to explain! It was awful what I went through. And that last dream, so wonderful. I've had dreams since, but none I remember so vividly and like it actually happened. No more demonic attack. I know though, that those types of things do exist and I don't think it is wrong for us to think upon what they may or may not know, and all of that. Must be careful for sure. And if you feel The Holy Spirit prompting you, listen to Him. That is the best advice I could give. During the time I was being attacked I researched deep into all that stuff because I didn't know what was happening to me, if I was losing my mind, took me a long time to figure it all out. Mainly because I was fighting and struggling with Jesus (NOT a good idea or what I would suggest to anyone but it is what I did). What I experienced and what I learned, I feel that God wanted me to learn and just how I did. Another thing I can definitely say, I know my enemy way better than I ever did before. I KNOW God is real and there is not a doubt in my mind about anything. I KNOW Jesus is the ONLY WAY to God. Before, I did have doubt. Yet another reason why He probably let me experience what I did. God is good. And He uses ALL for good. Even Satan, as much as satan might hate that, HA HA! Satan knows exactly what God wants him to know. Praise His Name and God Bless all the members of this forum! For anyone who took the time to read, thanks. Somehow I never intend on writing so much. Once I start though it's like it is not even me typing and I end up going to places and discussing topics I never intended to as I began responding to the post. Sorry about that! |
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Post by mike on Aug 14, 2017 11:35:45 GMT -6
I always wonder what was said during the 7 thunderings, I assumed it was hidden from humans, but it may have another reason to be hidden. yardstick, Thank you for sharing. It is a common teaching that Christmas is not the date of Jesus birth, because it is on a pagan holiday, but with foreknowledge of a future event allowed by God they created pagan holiday to mark the Jesus' birth. Something interesting to share, while most Jews could not see instantly who Jesus really was there was some exceptions: 1) Nathanael (Israelite in whom there is no deceit) saw who he really was(John 1:47-49) 2) Simeon(righteous jew) was told by Holy Spirit who he really was(Luke 2:25-32) 3) impure spirits(full of deceit) Mark 1:24 Luke 4:34 could also see who Jesus really was. Any idea why major events happen on December 26? My wife and I was led by the Holy Spirit to make the largest stock donation in our life to a Christian Emergency Aid Organization exactly so the money was made available(after selling it) few days later exactly on Dec 26, 2004, on the exact day of Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami. It is amazing how God works. I remember the tsunami in so much detail. I was glued to my television, made donations, cried and cried for those people, wished I could somehow go there and help them. I was not saved then. But that is when God first woke me up as to the world around me and that there was more in existence than just me, my family, my friends, The United States of America. I became aware of the world and the many in it who suffer. I wasn't saved immediately after, fought with God for years. It was at that moment though, I became quite the philanthropist and for a long time after found it difficult to enjoy anything because I felt guilty I was enjoying while other people were suffering. Became interested in other nations and cultures and read so many books about many different conflicts in various countries in Africa (I developed a love for and still have such a love for Africa), in Asia... Cambodia, Burma. I read a lot and learned a lot. About what Satan knows, I think along the same lines of Whatif. When God created us, He chose us. Then when we fell (Adam and Eve), fell again (events leading to flood), fell again (tower of babel), fell again (not being able to follow God's Law and so He sent us Jesus), again (we killed Jesus), many more things but you get the point. And so, God has chosen us over and over again. God could have easily made us so that we automatically followed Him. And I believe why God put the tree in the Garden of Eden, He wanted Adam and Eve to choose Him. Not because they were created to, not because they had to. But because they loved Him so much they wanted to. They, of their own will, voluntarily submitting themselves to He who created them, who loved them so much, who chose them. He wanted them to love Him with that same love He had for them, with a true and joyful unconditional love. As we all know, they did not choose Him. And ever since, many do not choose Him. All that God has gone through for us over all these thousands of years, because He wants us to choose Him. All that is happening now, because He wants us to choose Him, to love Him, to trust Him. It is what Salvation is, choosing Him.God didn't want to be our master as if we were slaves. If one looks back upon slavery in the Bible, there were slaves that were kept against their will. Also though there were slaves who chose their master, who served their master because they loved their master and they wanted to serve him. I think it is the reason God allowed slavery in the first place, to give humanity a picture that they could understand. He does it with so many things, everything in life and that happens to us in this temporary life, mothers, fathers, and children being another example, to show us, give us a picture, just like the parables Jesus told in the Bible... all so we can understand Him better; speaking to us in terms that we can understand. It is what this life is all about, deciding whether or not we will choose Him. Satan is for sure round and about, and everywhere. Not that he is omniscient like God. But he is like the head of an evil body, all that is sin, all that is wrong. Satan's body, those who choose Satan, either by intention and knowingly, or by refusing to make a choice for God and refusing to choose anyone or anything except for themselves. The angel's that followed Satan, demons, all that is evil; running about doing his work. And I think that Satan knows God's Word forwards and backwards, better than any of us do. In addition, he knows God up close and personal because he was with God, the angel held in highest esteem, in human terms he was "Hand of the King" to God, who is THE KING. Satan wasn't happy being only Hand of the King (don't know if anyone has ever watched Game of Thrones and not saying it is a Godly television show; but whomever writes that show I guarantee is heavily in occult and most likely a follower of Satan, as many parallels can be drawn between that show and Scripture, but also that tv show twists scripture... definitely of Satan... meant to confuse people so they will choose Satan). Satan wanted to BE The King. He knows a lot, as Whatif said, whatever God allows him to know. He is kind of like the tree that was in the Garden of Eden and the earth kind of like the Garden of Eden. It's just much worse here, more than only a tree to watch out for, because Satan is the prince of this current and fallen earth. And so, he knows a lot. The reason God allows him to do what he does, is the same reason the tree was there in the Garden of Eden. He wants us to choose Him, to love Him as He loves us. Not because we have to, but because we want to. We experience Satan's attacks and accusations constantly. God allows it because He knows the big picture, and He wants us to choose Him, and to trust Him with all that we don't know. Because HE does know. I had never been attacked by Satan so much as when I first became a believer. After I chose Jesus I was literally attacked, it was awful, it was scary, it was horrible, and even when I reached out to brothers and sisters in Christ to try and get help... like they didn't believe me and thought I was crazy, told me God would not allow such dreams, told me that I was not being attacked by Satan because it was not possible for a Christian with The Holy Spirit, not possible to happen. They suggested a psychiatrist and therapy. Well, I wasn't crazy and I'm not crazy. I was diagnosed a long time back with panic attacks, still get them now to this day, though not as often as I used to. That was psychological (though there could have been a spiritual component). What happened to me was WAY different from a panic attack, very real, more real than this physical world around us. God brought me through it though. Yes, He allowed it to happen. And I'm glad He did! I know that seems a strange thing to say. But there was much sin in my life that did not just "poof" and disappear when I gave my life to Jesus. Believe me when I say that Jesus had A LOT of work to do with me. He did. One thing at a time He convicted me, I resisted and did not listen at first, I was attacked. Stupid me, I should never have fought God. But you know how people are, and I thought I knew better, would even talk to God before willfully committing sin and make excuses to Him as to why it was ok that I was getting ready to do what I was and how I knew how He would "understand", and just on and on. (My biggest sin stronghold was alcohol and it was the last thing to go, the last thing God dealt with). Over and over it happened, me giving in to this sin (my husband is unfortunately an alcoholic and drinks all the time and so even after I decided to stop, it was hard and it was always right there in front of me and so hard to say no to... my feeble attempt at an excuse lol). And so... "Just this one last time Jesus". That very night and for a few nights after, demonic attack. You think I would have learned after the first 4 or 5 times. But nope. It is not that I didn't notice or that it was no big deal. It did impact me, oh did it!!! I started going longer and longer between giving in to the sin. But after a few weeks or after a month would give in (and by this time I knew very well just why I was being demonically attacked... that darkness and light CAN NOT reside together in the same body, that God was removing His Hand of Protection from me and allowing it to happen to me... and as time went on, even though the amount of time between drinking increased and I didn't do it as much, when I did... the attacks got worse and worse. Until finally, I said ENOUGH, I truly repented (this is a major problem for so many Christians because IMO they don't understand the difference between saying sorry and repenting). Well, a few months ago, I had this wonderful dream. It was more than a "dream", and just like the demonic attacks except beautiful, incredible, so joyful, so amazing... difficult to explain but very real, more real than what is around me in this room I am in right now. I don't remember all of it. But I do remember at first I was on the ground and looking at all these huge tornado like storms all around me. There were other people there and seemed like I knew all of them but no one's name came to mind in the dream. Also, I remember thinking in the dream to myself that I should be afraid right now and so it was weird how I wasn't and I was just watching out of a sliding glass door. Next thing I remember, like I was in the sky looking down upon it all. I knew I had been raptured and was with Jesus and felt so joyful, but also like I was there for a purpose, that it was a serious situation, not afraid, but maybe I was involved in some type of battle? There were many in the sky with me; looking down upon the earth, it was dark (not completely pitch black as I could see), like the air was either thick fog or dust, and then these big tornado type huge funnels everywhere. Next thing I remember is a man hugging me and I knew it was Jesus. He was holding me like one would hold a child and hugging me. I did not see His Face but I knew it was Him. And I will never forget what He said to me. He said, "Well just look at you. You didn't turn out so bad now did ya? I'm proud of you."He said that, though I don't know if it was exactly those words, or even if He said it audibly out loud to me, maybe communicating through the spirit and how when you read one of those stories about a person whom has had a near death experience and how there aren't necessarily words spoken but they just know. It is so hard to explain! It was awful what I went through. And that last dream, so wonderful. I've had dreams since, but none I remember so vividly and like it actually happened. No more demonic attack. I know though, that those types of things do exist and I don't think it is wrong for us to think upon what they may or may not know, and all of that. Must be careful for sure. And if you feel The Holy Spirit prompting you, listen to Him. That is the best advice I could give. During the time I was being attacked I researched deep into all that stuff because I didn't know what was happening to me, if I was losing my mind, took me a long time to figure it all out. Mainly because I was fighting and struggling with Jesus (NOT a good idea or what I would suggest to anyone but it is what I did). What I experienced and what I learned, I feel that God wanted me to learn and just how I did. Another thing I can definitely say, I know my enemy way better than I ever did before. I KNOW God is real and there is not a doubt in my mind about anything. I KNOW Jesus is the ONLY WAY to God. Before, I did have doubt. Yet another reason why He probably let me experience what I did. God is good. And He uses ALL for good. Even Satan, as much as satan might hate that, HA HA! Satan knows exactly what God wants him to know. Praise His Name and God Bless all the members of this forum! For anyone who took the time to read, thanks. Somehow I never intend on writing so much. Once I start though it's like it is not even me typing and I end up going to places and discussing topics I never intended to as I began responding to the post. Sorry about that! Tiffany, I'm not sure I can agree with you on the statement of Satan being everywhere. God is not only omniscient (all-knowing) but is also omni-present (everywhere) in addition to a few others (all-benevolent, eternal, etc.). I dont think we have any support scripturally to see that the enemy is everywhere, in fact if we resist him he will flee (James 4:7). If he were everywhere, where would he flee to. I do echo sentiments of what SoCalExile says about giving the devil too much credit. I'm not saying you are doing that here, but I do see many in the culture we live in today who are "quick to pass the buck" and not be accountable for their own actions. We live in this fleshly body which is at enmity with God from jumpstreet (Romans 8:7), we must accept some responsibility for our decisions.  I do agree with you that Satan knows the Word better than we do. He was there in heaven with Him, so "knowing" better Him is likely and he will twist and manipulate the word and situations to pull you away from God |
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Post by tiffanybw on Aug 14, 2017 13:03:48 GMT -6
I remember the tsunami in so much detail. I was glued to my television, made donations, cried and cried for those people, wished I could somehow go there and help them. I was not saved then. But that is when God first woke me up as to the world around me and that there was more in existence than just me, my family, my friends, The United States of America. I became aware of the world and the many in it who suffer. I wasn't saved immediately after, fought with God for years. It was at that moment though, I became quite the philanthropist and for a long time after found it difficult to enjoy anything because I felt guilty I was enjoying while other people were suffering. Became interested in other nations and cultures and read so many books about many different conflicts in various countries in Africa (I developed a love for and still have such a love for Africa), in Asia... Cambodia, Burma. I read a lot and learned a lot. About what Satan knows, I think along the same lines of Whatif. When God created us, He chose us. Then when we fell (Adam and Eve), fell again (events leading to flood), fell again (tower of babel), fell again (not being able to follow God's Law and so He sent us Jesus), again (we killed Jesus), many more things but you get the point. And so, God has chosen us over and over again. God could have easily made us so that we automatically followed Him. And I believe why God put the tree in the Garden of Eden, He wanted Adam and Eve to choose Him. Not because they were created to, not because they had to. But because they loved Him so much they wanted to. They, of their own will, voluntarily submitting themselves to He who created them, who loved them so much, who chose them. He wanted them to love Him with that same love He had for them, with a true and joyful unconditional love. As we all know, they did not choose Him. And ever since, many do not choose Him. All that God has gone through for us over all these thousands of years, because He wants us to choose Him. All that is happening now, because He wants us to choose Him, to love Him, to trust Him. It is what Salvation is, choosing Him.God didn't want to be our master as if we were slaves. If one looks back upon slavery in the Bible, there were slaves that were kept against their will. Also though there were slaves who chose their master, who served their master because they loved their master and they wanted to serve him. I think it is the reason God allowed slavery in the first place, to give humanity a picture that they could understand. He does it with so many things, everything in life and that happens to us in this temporary life, mothers, fathers, and children being another example, to show us, give us a picture, just like the parables Jesus told in the Bible... all so we can understand Him better; speaking to us in terms that we can understand. It is what this life is all about, deciding whether or not we will choose Him. Satan is for sure round and about, and everywhere. Not that he is omniscient like God. But he is like the head of an evil body, all that is sin, all that is wrong. Satan's body, those who choose Satan, either by intention and knowingly, or by refusing to make a choice for God and refusing to choose anyone or anything except for themselves. The angel's that followed Satan, demons, all that is evil; running about doing his work. And I think that Satan knows God's Word forwards and backwards, better than any of us do. In addition, he knows God up close and personal because he was with God, the angel held in highest esteem, in human terms he was "Hand of the King" to God, who is THE KING. Satan wasn't happy being only Hand of the King (don't know if anyone has ever watched Game of Thrones and not saying it is a Godly television show; but whomever writes that show I guarantee is heavily in occult and most likely a follower of Satan, as many parallels can be drawn between that show and Scripture, but also that tv show twists scripture... definitely of Satan... meant to confuse people so they will choose Satan). Satan wanted to BE The King. He knows a lot, as Whatif said, whatever God allows him to know. He is kind of like the tree that was in the Garden of Eden and the earth kind of like the Garden of Eden. It's just much worse here, more than only a tree to watch out for, because Satan is the prince of this current and fallen earth. And so, he knows a lot. The reason God allows him to do what he does, is the same reason the tree was there in the Garden of Eden. He wants us to choose Him, to love Him as He loves us. Not because we have to, but because we want to. We experience Satan's attacks and accusations constantly. God allows it because He knows the big picture, and He wants us to choose Him, and to trust Him with all that we don't know. Because HE does know. I had never been attacked by Satan so much as when I first became a believer. After I chose Jesus I was literally attacked, it was awful, it was scary, it was horrible, and even when I reached out to brothers and sisters in Christ to try and get help... like they didn't believe me and thought I was crazy, told me God would not allow such dreams, told me that I was not being attacked by Satan because it was not possible for a Christian with The Holy Spirit, not possible to happen. They suggested a psychiatrist and therapy. Well, I wasn't crazy and I'm not crazy. I was diagnosed a long time back with panic attacks, still get them now to this day, though not as often as I used to. That was psychological (though there could have been a spiritual component). What happened to me was WAY different from a panic attack, very real, more real than this physical world around us. God brought me through it though. Yes, He allowed it to happen. And I'm glad He did! I know that seems a strange thing to say. But there was much sin in my life that did not just "poof" and disappear when I gave my life to Jesus. Believe me when I say that Jesus had A LOT of work to do with me. He did. One thing at a time He convicted me, I resisted and did not listen at first, I was attacked. Stupid me, I should never have fought God. But you know how people are, and I thought I knew better, would even talk to God before willfully committing sin and make excuses to Him as to why it was ok that I was getting ready to do what I was and how I knew how He would "understand", and just on and on. (My biggest sin stronghold was alcohol and it was the last thing to go, the last thing God dealt with). Over and over it happened, me giving in to this sin (my husband is unfortunately an alcoholic and drinks all the time and so even after I decided to stop, it was hard and it was always right there in front of me and so hard to say no to... my feeble attempt at an excuse lol). And so... "Just this one last time Jesus". That very night and for a few nights after, demonic attack. You think I would have learned after the first 4 or 5 times. But nope. It is not that I didn't notice or that it was no big deal. It did impact me, oh did it!!! I started going longer and longer between giving in to the sin. But after a few weeks or after a month would give in (and by this time I knew very well just why I was being demonically attacked... that darkness and light CAN NOT reside together in the same body, that God was removing His Hand of Protection from me and allowing it to happen to me... and as time went on, even though the amount of time between drinking increased and I didn't do it as much, when I did... the attacks got worse and worse. Until finally, I said ENOUGH, I truly repented (this is a major problem for so many Christians because IMO they don't understand the difference between saying sorry and repenting). Well, a few months ago, I had this wonderful dream. It was more than a "dream", and just like the demonic attacks except beautiful, incredible, so joyful, so amazing... difficult to explain but very real, more real than what is around me in this room I am in right now. I don't remember all of it. But I do remember at first I was on the ground and looking at all these huge tornado like storms all around me. There were other people there and seemed like I knew all of them but no one's name came to mind in the dream. Also, I remember thinking in the dream to myself that I should be afraid right now and so it was weird how I wasn't and I was just watching out of a sliding glass door. Next thing I remember, like I was in the sky looking down upon it all. I knew I had been raptured and was with Jesus and felt so joyful, but also like I was there for a purpose, that it was a serious situation, not afraid, but maybe I was involved in some type of battle? There were many in the sky with me; looking down upon the earth, it was dark (not completely pitch black as I could see), like the air was either thick fog or dust, and then these big tornado type huge funnels everywhere. Next thing I remember is a man hugging me and I knew it was Jesus. He was holding me like one would hold a child and hugging me. I did not see His Face but I knew it was Him. And I will never forget what He said to me. He said, "Well just look at you. You didn't turn out so bad now did ya? I'm proud of you."He said that, though I don't know if it was exactly those words, or even if He said it audibly out loud to me, maybe communicating through the spirit and how when you read one of those stories about a person whom has had a near death experience and how there aren't necessarily words spoken but they just know. It is so hard to explain! It was awful what I went through. And that last dream, so wonderful. I've had dreams since, but none I remember so vividly and like it actually happened. No more demonic attack. I know though, that those types of things do exist and I don't think it is wrong for us to think upon what they may or may not know, and all of that. Must be careful for sure. And if you feel The Holy Spirit prompting you, listen to Him. That is the best advice I could give. During the time I was being attacked I researched deep into all that stuff because I didn't know what was happening to me, if I was losing my mind, took me a long time to figure it all out. Mainly because I was fighting and struggling with Jesus (NOT a good idea or what I would suggest to anyone but it is what I did). What I experienced and what I learned, I feel that God wanted me to learn and just how I did. Another thing I can definitely say, I know my enemy way better than I ever did before. I KNOW God is real and there is not a doubt in my mind about anything. I KNOW Jesus is the ONLY WAY to God. Before, I did have doubt. Yet another reason why He probably let me experience what I did. God is good. And He uses ALL for good. Even Satan, as much as satan might hate that, HA HA! Satan knows exactly what God wants him to know. Praise His Name and God Bless all the members of this forum! For anyone who took the time to read, thanks. Somehow I never intend on writing so much. Once I start though it's like it is not even me typing and I end up going to places and discussing topics I never intended to as I began responding to the post. Sorry about that! Tiffany, I'm not sure I can agree with you on the statement of Satan being everywhere. God is not only omniscient (all-knowing) but is also omni-present (everywhere) in addition to a few others (all-benevolent, eternal, etc.). I dont think we have any support scripturally to see that the enemy is everywhere, in fact if we resist him he will flee (James 4:7). If he were everywhere, where would he flee to. I do echo sentiments of what SoCalExile says about giving the devil too much credit. I'm not saying you are doing that here, but I do see many in the culture we live in today who are "quick to pass the buck" and not be accountable for their own actions. We live in this fleshly body which is at enmity with God from jumpstreet (Romans 8:7), we must accept some responsibility for our decisions. I do agree with you that Satan knows the Word better than we do. He was there in heaven with Him, so "knowing" better Him is likely and he will twist and manipulate the word and situations to pull you away from God Absolutely agree. I didn't mean to imply that we human beings were not at fault. Each and every thing that has happened to me, it was my choice to make. God gives us all our own choice. And it is not Satan whom is accountable for our choice, it is us, we who are held to account and will be held to account in the future, for our own choices. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 14:33:16 GMT -6
I always wonder what was said during the 7 thunderings, I assumed it was hidden from humans, but it may have another reason to be hidden. yardstick, Thank you for sharing. It is a common teaching that Christmas is not the date of Jesus birth, because it is on a pagan holiday, but with foreknowledge of a future event allowed by God they created pagan holiday to mark the Jesus' birth. Something interesting to share, while most Jews could not see instantly who Jesus really was there was some exceptions: 1) Nathanael (Israelite in whom there is no deceit) saw who he really was(John 1:47-49) 2) Simeon(righteous jew) was told by Holy Spirit who he really was(Luke 2:25-32) 3) impure spirits(full of deceit) Mark 1:24 Luke 4:34 could also see who Jesus really was. Any idea why major events happen on December 26? My wife and I was led by the Holy Spirit to make the largest stock donation in our life to a Christian Emergency Aid Organization exactly so the money was made available(after selling it) few days later exactly on Dec 26, 2004, on the exact day of Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami. It is amazing how God works. If you check out the various looks into the Star of Bethlehem, Christ was likely conceived on Hanukkah, where the Light of the World entered on the Festival of Lights, or as it's referred to int he bible in John 10:22, as the Feast of Dedication. The Magi likely presented their gifts and worshiped Christ on Dec. 25th, given the movement of the conjunction of Venus and Jupiter, which was the Star of Bethlehem. Keep in mind we give gifts on this day. Dec. 25th is not a pagan holiday; the Roman celebrated Saturnalia on December 17th-23rd. Isn't it interesting that Christmas and Hanukkah overlapped the last Christmas before the Rev 12 sign. Here is the link of the Pagan Holiday on Dec 25th en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sol_Invictus |
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Post by socalexile on Aug 14, 2017 15:05:05 GMT -6
If you check out the various looks into the Star of Bethlehem, Christ was likely conceived on Hanukkah, where the Light of the World entered on the Festival of Lights, or as it's referred to int he bible in John 10:22, as the Feast of Dedication. The Magi likely presented their gifts and worshiped Christ on Dec. 25th, given the movement of the conjunction of Venus and Jupiter, which was the Star of Bethlehem. Keep in mind we give gifts on this day. Dec. 25th is not a pagan holiday; the Roman celebrated Saturnalia on December 17th-23rd. Isn't it interesting that Christmas and Hanukkah overlapped the last Christmas before the Rev 12 sign. Here is the link of the Pagan Holiday on Dec 25th en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sol_Invictus Please watch: |
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I remember the tsunami in so much detail. I was glued to my television, made donations, cried and cried for those people, wished I could somehow go there and help them. I was not saved then. But that is when God first woke me up as to the world around me and that there was more in existence than just me, my family, my friends, The United States of America. I became aware of the world and the many in it who suffer. I wasn't saved immediately after, fought with God for years. It was at that moment though, I became quite the philanthropist and for a long time after found it difficult to enjoy anything because I felt guilty I was enjoying while other people were suffering. Became interested in other nations and cultures and read so many books about many different conflicts in various countries in Africa (I developed a love for and still have such a love for Africa), in Asia... Cambodia, Burma. I read a lot and learned a lot. About what Satan knows, I think along the same lines of Whatif. When God created us, He chose us. Then when we fell (Adam and Eve), fell again (events leading to flood), fell again (tower of babel), fell again (not being able to follow God's Law and so He sent us Jesus), again (we killed Jesus), many more things but you get the point. And so, God has chosen us over and over again. God could have easily made us so that we automatically followed Him. And I believe why God put the tree in the Garden of Eden, He wanted Adam and Eve to choose Him. Not because they were created to, not because they had to. But because they loved Him so much they wanted to. They, of their own will, voluntarily submitting themselves to He who created them, who loved them so much, who chose them. He wanted them to love Him with that same love He had for them, with a true and joyful unconditional love. As we all know, they did not choose Him. And ever since, many do not choose Him. All that God has gone through for us over all these thousands of years, because He wants us to choose Him. All that is happening now, because He wants us to choose Him, to love Him, to trust Him. It is what Salvation is, choosing Him.God didn't want to be our master as if we were slaves. If one looks back upon slavery in the Bible, there were slaves that were kept against their will. Also though there were slaves who chose their master, who served their master because they loved their master and they wanted to serve him. I think it is the reason God allowed slavery in the first place, to give humanity a picture that they could understand. He does it with so many things, everything in life and that happens to us in this temporary life, mothers, fathers, and children being another example, to show us, give us a picture, just like the parables Jesus told in the Bible... all so we can understand Him better; speaking to us in terms that we can understand. It is what this life is all about, deciding whether or not we will choose Him. Satan is for sure round and about, and everywhere. Not that he is omniscient like God. But he is like the head of an evil body, all that is sin, all that is wrong. Satan's body, those who choose Satan, either by intention and knowingly, or by refusing to make a choice for God and refusing to choose anyone or anything except for themselves. The angel's that followed Satan, demons, all that is evil; running about doing his work. And I think that Satan knows God's Word forwards and backwards, better than any of us do. In addition, he knows God up close and personal because he was with God, the angel held in highest esteem, in human terms he was "Hand of the King" to God, who is THE KING. Satan wasn't happy being only Hand of the King (don't know if anyone has ever watched Game of Thrones and not saying it is a Godly television show; but whomever writes that show I guarantee is heavily in occult and most likely a follower of Satan, as many parallels can be drawn between that show and Scripture, but also that tv show twists scripture... definitely of Satan... meant to confuse people so they will choose Satan). Satan wanted to BE The King. He knows a lot, as Whatif said, whatever God allows him to know. He is kind of like the tree that was in the Garden of Eden and the earth kind of like the Garden of Eden. It's just much worse here, more than only a tree to watch out for, because Satan is the prince of this current and fallen earth. And so, he knows a lot. The reason God allows him to do what he does, is the same reason the tree was there in the Garden of Eden. He wants us to choose Him, to love Him as He loves us. Not because we have to, but because we want to. We experience Satan's attacks and accusations constantly. God allows it because He knows the big picture, and He wants us to choose Him, and to trust Him with all that we don't know. Because HE does know. I had never been attacked by Satan so much as when I first became a believer. After I chose Jesus I was literally attacked, it was awful, it was scary, it was horrible, and even when I reached out to brothers and sisters in Christ to try and get help... like they didn't believe me and thought I was crazy, told me God would not allow such dreams, told me that I was not being attacked by Satan because it was not possible for a Christian with The Holy Spirit, not possible to happen. They suggested a psychiatrist and therapy. Well, I wasn't crazy and I'm not crazy. I was diagnosed a long time back with panic attacks, still get them now to this day, though not as often as I used to. That was psychological (though there could have been a spiritual component). What happened to me was WAY different from a panic attack, very real, more real than this physical world around us. God brought me through it though. Yes, He allowed it to happen. And I'm glad He did! I know that seems a strange thing to say. But there was much sin in my life that did not just "poof" and disappear when I gave my life to Jesus. Believe me when I say that Jesus had A LOT of work to do with me. He did. One thing at a time He convicted me, I resisted and did not listen at first, I was attacked. Stupid me, I should never have fought God. But you know how people are, and I thought I knew better, would even talk to God before willfully committing sin and make excuses to Him as to why it was ok that I was getting ready to do what I was and how I knew how He would "understand", and just on and on. (My biggest sin stronghold was alcohol and it was the last thing to go, the last thing God dealt with). Over and over it happened, me giving in to this sin (my husband is unfortunately an alcoholic and drinks all the time and so even after I decided to stop, it was hard and it was always right there in front of me and so hard to say no to... my feeble attempt at an excuse lol). And so... "Just this one last time Jesus". That very night and for a few nights after, demonic attack. You think I would have learned after the first 4 or 5 times. But nope. It is not that I didn't notice or that it was no big deal. It did impact me, oh did it!!! I started going longer and longer between giving in to the sin. But after a few weeks or after a month would give in (and by this time I knew very well just why I was being demonically attacked... that darkness and light CAN NOT reside together in the same body, that God was removing His Hand of Protection from me and allowing it to happen to me... and as time went on, even though the amount of time between drinking increased and I didn't do it as much, when I did... the attacks got worse and worse. Until finally, I said ENOUGH, I truly repented (this is a major problem for so many Christians because IMO they don't understand the difference between saying sorry and repenting). Well, a few months ago, I had this wonderful dream. It was more than a "dream", and just like the demonic attacks except beautiful, incredible, so joyful, so amazing... difficult to explain but very real, more real than what is around me in this room I am in right now. I don't remember all of it. But I do remember at first I was on the ground and looking at all these huge tornado like storms all around me. There were other people there and seemed like I knew all of them but no one's name came to mind in the dream. Also, I remember thinking in the dream to myself that I should be afraid right now and so it was weird how I wasn't and I was just watching out of a sliding glass door. Next thing I remember, like I was in the sky looking down upon it all. I knew I had been raptured and was with Jesus and felt so joyful, but also like I was there for a purpose, that it was a serious situation, not afraid, but maybe I was involved in some type of battle? There were many in the sky with me; looking down upon the earth, it was dark (not completely pitch black as I could see), like the air was either thick fog or dust, and then these big tornado type huge funnels everywhere. Next thing I remember is a man hugging me and I knew it was Jesus. He was holding me like one would hold a child and hugging me. I did not see His Face but I knew it was Him. And I will never forget what He said to me. He said, "Well just look at you. You didn't turn out so bad now did ya? I'm proud of you."He said that, though I don't know if it was exactly those words, or even if He said it audibly out loud to me, maybe communicating through the spirit and how when you read one of those stories about a person whom has had a near death experience and how there aren't necessarily words spoken but they just know. It is so hard to explain! It was awful what I went through. And that last dream, so wonderful. I've had dreams since, but none I remember so vividly and like it actually happened. No more demonic attack. I know though, that those types of things do exist and I don't think it is wrong for us to think upon what they may or may not know, and all of that. Must be careful for sure. And if you feel The Holy Spirit prompting you, listen to Him. That is the best advice I could give. During the time I was being attacked I researched deep into all that stuff because I didn't know what was happening to me, if I was losing my mind, took me a long time to figure it all out. Mainly because I was fighting and struggling with Jesus (NOT a good idea or what I would suggest to anyone but it is what I did). What I experienced and what I learned, I feel that God wanted me to learn and just how I did. Another thing I can definitely say, I know my enemy way better than I ever did before. I KNOW God is real and there is not a doubt in my mind about anything. I KNOW Jesus is the ONLY WAY to God. Before, I did have doubt. Yet another reason why He probably let me experience what I did. God is good. And He uses ALL for good. Even Satan, as much as satan might hate that, HA HA! Satan knows exactly what God wants him to know. Praise His Name and God Bless all the members of this forum! For anyone who took the time to read, thanks. Somehow I never intend on writing so much. Once I start though it's like it is not even me typing and I end up going to places and discussing topics I never intended to as I began responding to the post. Sorry about that! Thank You for your powerful testimony. Satan (or one of the top fallen angels) tried to kill me twice The last time Satan tried to kill me, he could no longer use my sin to attack me, but used my daughter's sins to attack me in a phone call. During a phone call I caught the President of our Local Church in lies, his voice started to change and he started to have what appeared omnipresent knowledge (mix of truth with lies) much more than he could known by a normal man, I again confronted the new lies and his voice changed again to the same voice of the creature who tried to kill me 30 years earlier, standing up to such a power was about impossible, but I held my ground as long as possible, to the point of death, after about 5 minutes my heart stopped and I stopped breathing, I was white as a ghost with no color in my skin and fell the the ground. At the start of the phone call in another town a message from God from one the most Holiest women of the church was given to my wife, she arrived home at the moment to catch me falling, bring life back into my body, and deliver the message within about 3-5 seconds after my heart stopped. tiffanybw I would like to share with you part of the message to you because I believe it also applies to you "For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe in him, but also to suffer for him" it is a high honor to also suffer for him. |
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Post by tiffanybw on Aug 15, 2017 12:41:49 GMT -6
Thank You for your powerful testimony. Satan (or one of the top fallen angels) tried to kill me twice The last time Satan tried to kill me, he could no longer use my sin to attack me, but used my daughter's sins to attack me in a phone call. During a phone call I caught the President of our Local Church in lies, his voice started to change and he started to have what appeared omnipresent knowledge (mix of truth with lies) much more than he could known by a normal man, I again confronted the new lies and his voice changed again to the same voice of the creature who tried to kill me 30 years earlier, standing up to such a power was about impossible, but I held my ground as long as possible, to the point of death, after about 5 minutes my heart stopped and I stopped breathing, I was white as a ghost with no color in my skin and fell the the ground. At the start of the phone call in another town a message from God from one the most Holiest women of the church was given to my wife, she arrived home at the moment to catch me falling, bring life back into my body, and deliver the message within about 3-5 seconds after my heart stopped. tiffanybw I would like to share with you part of the message to you because I believe it also applies to you "For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe in him, but also to suffer for him" it is a high honor to also suffer for him. Thank you so much for sharing with me, Jimla. If you would have told me this 5 years ago, I'd have never believed you. I do believe you now though! I believe every word, and I'm so happy you are here today to continue fighting for Him. How great is our God... that He used another member of His Body, delivered His Message to your wife, and your wife was able to get home to you right when she did. I believe in Him. And it is simply my opinion, certainly do not want to argue and absolutely I do respect the opinion of all members here, but I think the opposite of some in this thread. I think that too many people underestimate satan. And that too many Christians underestimate satan. God is Pure, Perfection, Love, and ALL that is Good. Well... Satan... and those in his domain whom have chosen to follow him... they are the exact opposite, pure evil, pure hate, pure corruption. There is a spiritual world, which is all around us at all times that we can not see unless God chooses to show us. Or... if you are of satan... and into all the new age, astral projection, meditation, yoga, consciousness altering things... are able to see somewhat but most likely what you are seeing is a lie and a deception of the devil and of those who follow him. There was another thread here, talking about the crystal sea, the veil, I'm not sure. And this thought just hit me right now, but maybe what it is, is what separates us and keeps the spiritual world and the physical world separate. Just a random thought and not saying I'm right. For me, the first 2 years I was saved, and I gave my heart to him in all genuineness and sincerity in 2010; I pursued Christ, but I also had sin in my life, sin I did not want to give up. And I was very stubborn, wanted to pick and choose instead of yielding all to Jesus. He put up with it for some time, and then decided Enough. Many things I quickly gave up upon being saved, many things I gave up without being too stubborn. I fought, but not for long, and I would give it to God. There were a few strongholds I did not give up so easily (alcohol being the main one). I was very stubborn, and so God allowed me to experience what I did. That is what I believe anyway. It was my fault. It was Satan who attacked me. It was God who allowed it and for very good reason. I feel that He was telling me... "Tiffany, you can not have it all ways. It can NOT be your way and My Way. You have a choice to make Tiffany. Choose." I chose Him, of course! I don't believe that I was attacked by Satan himself, but by demons, by whatever one wishes to call it... I call it those who follow Satan. I do believe you when you say you were attacked by either Satan himself or a very high ranking entity of his domain. Because we have The Holy Spirit (this is what I think anyways), we just know. I don't think that Satan is omni-present and everywhere at once. But I do think he is like the king, those who follow him his kingdom. And as in any kingdom (compare again to the GoT tv show), everyone has a role they play for their king. Because of that it seems like Satan is everywhere and is omni-present. And in a way, he is, because he has his legions reporting to him. And so everywhere, yes, I do believe everywhere on earth. I don't think that they ever tried to kill me, or really most likely it is that they would have if they could but that God did not allow that. He allowed me to experience what I did for His Purpose, not because He wanted to cause me to suffer or be harmed, but because I was one HARD HEADED sinner. My fault and no one else's. Maybe I am meant to suffer for Christ. If that is so, then His Will be done. I don't say that lightly and at first when I read what you said I was afraid for a moment. Because who wants to suffer? Of course, no one does. But whatever His Will is, it is Righteous and it is True. My flesh fights it, my flesh is afraid, but when it comes time The Lord WILL be with me. Whatever happens, He Will be with me and I trust Him to get me through it. I feel so honored, just in truly knowing that I belong to Him and that I am His. I feel and I KNOW that I don't deserve it. And so I pray, that whatever His Will is, that He will give me what is required, to fulfill that which is His Will. It would literally break my heart to disappoint Him. Truly, I would do ANYTHING for Him. Absolutely anything. I don't say that with confidence though. I say it with fear. Because of my flesh and because of my sin. That said, because of Jesus, my flesh and my sin is crucified with Him on the Cross. And I will someday be completely alive, both body and spirit, perfect, with no more sin. In the meantime, I, you, all of us... we battle; against this world and even against our own physical and corrupt body. Because even though we have been born again in the Spirit, we have not yet been born again of the Body. Christ's Body. Revelation 12. Praise HIS Name! God Bless you, Brother. *big hugs* (And, I think I read you live in Hawaii? I am so jealous! And there goes my flesh again. Also though, I am so honored be be a part, any part, whatever His Will is for me... of His Body; and so happy to call everyone here on this forum, everyone in this world who is also of His Body... my Brothers and Sisters in Jesus Christ! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 21:52:58 GMT -6
Are you saying I am not focus on what the Lord has done? No. I'm saying that it doesn't matter what they know. The Lord has already won the war. There tends to be too much focus and too much credit given to the Devil and his lackeys. A lot of people almost elevate him to a god. He's just a finite being, created in eternity, but limited nonetheless. Sorry for not expounding. It's a bit of a peeve of mine. It seems some Christians (not accusing you here) blame Satan for everything they don't like in their lives - no, just no. We're all fallible human beings and sometimes adversity is due to us following our own lusts. Sorry for venting. The graphics you include say "The devil aint attacking you like that, you just reaping the consequences Of the decisions you made." A famous devil attack is in the bible: Matthew 4 New International Version (NIV) Jesus Is Tested in the Wilderness 4 Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. 2 After fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry. 3 The tempter came to him and said, “If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread.” 4 Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’” 5 Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. 6 “If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down. For it is written: “‘He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.’” 7 Jesus answered him, “It is also written: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’” 8 Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. 9 “All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.” 10 Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’” 11 Then the devil left him, and angels came and attended him. What lust or action was Jesus "reaping the consequence of the decision he made"? What lust or action was Job (man was blameless and upright; he feared God and shunned evil) "reaping the consequence of the decision he made"? I will have to disagree with "The devil aint attacking you like that, you just reaping the consequences Of the decisions you made." I believe it is a teaching was authored by the devil himself. The same twisting of scripture that he did when he tested Jesus in the Wilderness. |
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