Revelation 10

I have moments like this all the time!

There is a passage either in Daniel or Revelation where the prophet is standing by a river and hears someone speak, but it isn't the angel he is with (his angel answers the questioner - and the questioner isn't Daniel). So he looks over and sees someone else standing by the river (presumably that person is the one who spoke). It might have been Daniel 8:13, but I am not sure. The words there are palah (a set apart one - another holy one) and qodesh (a holy one - the angel who replied to the set apart one). It makes me think that it was the apostle John who asked about the regular sacrifice/2300 days.

And yes, given the timeless nature of reality outside our 'time domain' (as Missler puts it), it would be possible for both Daniel and John to be in Heaven at the same time, 'collecting' their respective prophecies. It also makes no sense that an angel would ask another angel about when the sacrifice would be restarted?

Great insights, yardstick. I did forget to mention that I knew that Daniel 12 and Revelation 10 are clearly related, and you showed us the part that is related. I NEVER thought about the possibility that Daniel and/or John might see each other in the prophecies! Wow!

Now, one thing to notice--in one Rev 10:5 lifts only one hand, but the one in Daniel 12 lifts both hands.


Rev 10:5  And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven, 

Dan 12:7  And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished. 

I need to clarify something in this post:

It made me think it was John that asked about the sacrifice/2300 days, but Daniel overheard the question and the answer. Assuming John knew that Daniel was there, and that John knew Daniel overheard the question and answer; there would have been little reason for John to have recorded that particular prophecy in Revelation, since it would be redundant to do so (since Daniel recorded it). John in the future (before he had the vision) would have known that Daniel already recorded it, and also would have known once he hit the point in time of that part of his vision that he was the one to ask the question, and so would not have recorded it himself. A time loop/paradox!

Reviving this post:

Have you given it thought that this mighty angel that comes down from Heaven, that he cries loudly. Why do you think that?

He yells out loud and in doing so, we are told:

There are really 2 mysteries:
1. Colossians 1:26-27

2. 1 Cor 15:51

Now, I am not picking these out because they say mystery. I am adding these 2 because they show the mystery of God. What the mystery was that was hidden and what the mystery of his reward is for being in Christ.
It is this mystery that he shared with his servants the prophets that they would be resurrected and changed. That is why this 7th angel that blows the shofar preceds the son of man coming. This is the angel described below:

The last Trump is the shofar which the 7th angel sounds. The angel of Rev 10. That is why when this 7th angel in Rev 10 blows the shofar (the 7th trumpet), the mystery of God is finished and now he can reward his saints with immortality.

Once Christ can begin to reign at the 7th Trumpet, it follows the first resurrection as we reign with Christ for 1k years. The reigning with him begins when he begins to reign right at this momment. That is why in verse 18 its said:

This is also the exact moment Satan is sealed in the pit as it shows this is when he reigns. Rev 20...

This all happens at the 7th trumpet leaving the bowls as the punishment for ONLY wicked. That is why when you look at rev 11:18, after we are rewarded with immortality at the 7th trumpet, the next line shows the bowls on thee wicked now that we are saved.

This is the destruction foretold in the parable of the tares.

The tares are bound together in the trumpets. At the end in the 7th Trumpet, the wheat is gathered into His barn. Then the tares that are bound are to be burned in the bowl judgements. 
This is why I stated in a previous post that after the 7th trumpet and we are removed, the wicked are bound to be burned in the fire. The Rev 10 angel is the archangel that sounds the last trumpet of God. And in Rev 15:8, the prelude before the bowls, we see the door is now shut.

We see this angel of rev 10 in 1 Thessalonians 4

That great cry from that mighty angel that is cloud with a rainbow is the archangel of God. The voice in 1 Thessalonians 4 is his great cry he utters. The dead in Christ rising is the 1st resurrection and reward of the saints, the prophets and all small and great that fear His name from the 7th trumpet. 

BORA,

You said:

That would be Chapter 11, verse 15. You are correct, 11:15 answers the question posed in Rev 10:3.

You said:

Again, you are correct. This mighty angel is highlighted to let the reader understand his importance. Not only is he the angel that sounds the last trumpet of God, but it is this cry that announces Christ return. It says Christ is now about to start his reign. It even shows us if Christ has started to reign, that means Satan is now bound and sealed. If the 1st resurrection begins when Christ reigns as we reign with him, that means the 7th trumpet is the 1st resurrection and the rapture itself. That is why 1 Cor 15:51-52 match up perfectly with scripture. It tells us it is the last trumpet that we get changed. 1 Thess 4 shows us it is the return of Christ and also its the voice of an archangel, the same mighty angel clothed with a rainbow. Just as I show the other verses that match up and backup our reward. What people must get over and understand is that we are not under any condemnation of God's wrath because we are redeemed. That is not to say tribulation is His wrath. The destruction of the wicked in his wrath is shown in the bowls prelude when the door is shut. It is also shown in the harvest, in the parable of the weeds and in other places. It is also equally important to understand the Koine Greek words for tribulation never imply God's wrath. God's wrath is always a different word. As a matter of fact, it is told to us by Christ and Paul we will endure tribulation but Christ says don't worry, I have endured it and if Christ can do it we can too. Don't love your lives unto death and a crown will await you. These are things we cannot forget. Not being under condemnation was saying we are no longer a prisoner under bondage of the old law. We are free from the slavery of sin and have washed ourselves in the blood of Christ. That does not mean you wont endure tribulation. That means you wont endure God's wrath. Some here may disagree on placement of God's wrath, that is ok, but this scripture regarding the rapture/1st resurrection, the angel, the reign of Christ, the sealing of Satan and the timetable how it all flows together perfectly, we cannot ignore that fact. 

I don't know. But I know this, right before this 7th angel sounds, we have the 2 witnesses finish their testimony. It follows Matthew 24:14

The end of the old world is at the 7th Trumpet. The beggining of the New world starts when it is blown and Christ reigns. He will clean out the earth of everything that offends in His kingdom.

Weird. I can’t view it

Hi Venge.  Thank you for confirming the proposition that the seven thunders of Rev. 10:3 are the great voices of Rev. 11:15.

Thus an intermission exists as follows:

Rev. 10:1-2, The Mighty Angel
    Rev. 10:3, The loud voice of the mighty angel, and the Seven Thunders uttered their voices
        Rev. 10:4-11:14, Intermission
    Rev. 11:15, The seventh angel sounded, and the great voices in heaven said
Rev. 11:16-19, Link to Rev. 4:4-11


Next, concerning the intermission, the voice from heaven in Rev. 10:8 is the voice from heaven in Rev. 11:12 and the chiasmus continues as follows:

Rev. 10:1-2, The Mighty Angel
    Rev. 10:3, The loud voice of the mighty angel, and the Seven Thunders uttered their voices
        Rev. 10:4-7
            Rev. 10:8, The Voice from heaven
                Rev, 10:9-11:11, Intermission
            Rev. 11:12, The Voice from heaven and the link to Rev. 4:1-3
        Rev. 11:13-14
    Rev. 11:15, The seventh angel sounded, and the great voices in heaven said
Rev. 11:16-19, Link to Rev. 4:4-11
 

Last of all concerning the intermission, the Voice from heaven speaks in Rev. 11:3 and the center of the chiasmus is identified as follows:


Rev. 10:1-2, The Mighty Angel
    Rev. 10:3, The loud voice of the mighty angel, and the Seven Thunders uttered their voices
        Rev. 10:4-7
            Rev. 10:8, The Voice from heaven
                Rev. 10:9-11:2, The angel and John
                    Rev. 11:3, The Voice from heaven
                Rev. 11:4-11, the two witnesses
            Rev. 11:12, The Voice from heaven and the link to Rev. 4:1-3
        Rev. 11:13-14
    Rev. 11:15, The seventh angel sounded, and the great voices in heaven said
Rev. 11:16-19, Link to Rev. 4:4-11


Notice that in the chiasmus the angel and John correspond directly to the two witnesses. It is for this reason that I believe the two witnesses are the angel and John.