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Post by whatif on Jul 7, 2017 12:14:05 GMT -6
19 “Then I wanted to know the meaning of the fourth beast, which was different from all the others and most terrifying, with its iron teeth and bronze claws—the beast that crushed and devoured its victims and trampled underfoot whatever was left. 20 I also wanted to know about the ten horns on its head and about the other horn that came up, before which three of them fell—the horn that looked more imposing than the others and that had eyes and a mouth that spoke boastfully. 21 As I watched, this horn was waging war against the holy people and defeating them, 22 until the Ancient of Days came and pronounced judgment in favor of the holy people of the Most High, and the time came when they possessed the kingdom.
Yep - it's a beast according to the scriptures.
The fourth beast is a reference to the European Kingdom and to England from which the little horn (America) and the European Americans (the ten kings) arose and came out of. Hi, faye! When you say the European Kingdom, are you referring to the Roman Empire? I have heard some suggest that the US has many historical/prophetic-type connections with both the Greek and the Roman Empire. There is also an Egyptian Empire connection that we've been discussing in other threads related to the Great American Solar Eclipse coming up in August. There's the Babylonian Empire connection by way of "Mystery Babylon." Now we've been getting Persian connections with Trump being remarked as a type of Cyrus. Are all these fallen empires being given a moment of renewed life in these last days, possibly in fulfillment of Daniel 7:11-12? "Then I continued to watch because of the boastful words the horn was speaking. I kept looking until the beast was slain and its body destroyed and thrown into the blazing fire. (The other beasts had been stripped of their authority, but were allowed to live for a period of time.)"
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Post by faye on Jul 12, 2017 10:00:21 GMT -6
The fourth beast is a reference to the European Kingdom and to England from which the little horn (America) and the European Americans (the ten kings) arose and came out of. Hi, faye! When you say the European Kingdom, are you referring to the Roman Empire? Hi whatif,
No, I'm actually referring to the European nations which the European Americans came out of.
Notice Daniel 8, verses 9, 10, and 11 says,
"And out of one of them (out of England) came forth a little horn (America), which waxed exceeding great.......
"And it waxed great even to the host of heaven, and it cast down it's Christian host people to the ground and stompted on them."
"Yes, and (America) the little horn magnified himself even to the prince of the host (even to the blacks), and because of him the daily sacrifice (the daily school prayer) was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary cast down."
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Post by whatif on Jul 12, 2017 12:03:14 GMT -6
I see you've started a new thread to continue the conversation there, faye, so that's great--a good idea. Please fill out a little more detail in your theory in the other thread so we can know how best to really discuss it.
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Jul 13, 2017 7:56:35 GMT -6
Good Morning ! I spend much of my time catching up on all these posts on this site since I am relatively new here. And so, often I think about the things I have learned these past few years in regards to end times and look to find the topics. So if the link I am sharing is "old news" I apologize. It is in regards to the apostasy. I came across an interesting take on the word. Curious as to what others here in this forum think. Basically looking at the Greek meaning and it minor definition of "depart" in the spatial sense, ie rapture.. here is a link to a study on this: www.pre-trib.org/articles/view/a-defense-of-the-rapture-in-2-thessalonians-23
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Post by watchmanjim on Jul 15, 2017 22:24:50 GMT -6
That's a good article, barbio! One thing I sometimes wonder is, whether a verse that can be interpreted multiple ways like that, can sometimes have more than one true, non-conflicting, meanings.
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