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Post by whatif on Jul 2, 2017 20:19:35 GMT -6
Watchmanjim, that's fascinating! Do you happen to have eclipse glasses to protect your eyes? I bought some for August, so my husband and I just went outside to take a look at the sun ourselves. We looked at it about 7:15 p.m. Pacific Standard Time, but didn't see anything other than the sun. Since you saw the object last Monday, perhaps it is out of view at the moment, but maybe will eventually come back into view.
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Post by whatif on Jul 2, 2017 20:21:54 GMT -6
I did a little sleuthing and found this very interesting 1983 article from the Washington Post... Welcome to the forum, bloodredmoon! We are so glad you've joined us! The article is very interesting indeed! |
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Post by watchmanjim on Jul 2, 2017 21:50:28 GMT -6
Watchmanjim, that's fascinating! Do you happen to have eclipse glasses to protect your eyes? I bought some for August, so my husband and I just went outside to take a look at the sun ourselves. We looked at it about 7:15 p.m. Pacific Standard Time, but didn't see anything other than the sun. Since you saw the object last Monday, perhaps it is out of view at the moment, but maybe will eventually come back into view. I need to get some glasses. I don't know for sure what the thing is. If it's Nibiru, I don't think it is as big as some people indicate it is. I doubt it has a mass any larger than that of the earth, maybe less, if that's what it is, and that would validate what Beloved was saying about it not having much pull on planetary objects. However, I do think there is evidence that something influenced earth's axial rotation and/or polar tilt at some point in the past, as well as phenomena such as the flood of Noah's day, the crucifixion eclipse and earthquake, and Joshua's long day. Of course, some of these things could have been brought about through pure miracles, I admit, but I see God using natural phenomena as much as possible in cases like these. The atmospheric conditions, I think, had to be just right--the overcast sky where the sun became visible just below the clouds immediately before setting. |
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Post by whatif on Jul 2, 2017 22:31:23 GMT -6
Cool! Whenever I am able, I will try to get a view of the sun through the eclipse glasses to see if I can observe anything!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 18:14:44 GMT -6
Source: www.pseudepigrapha.com/jubilees/5.htmLine 22. And Noah made the ark in all respects as He commanded him, in the twenty-seventh jubilee of years, in the fifth week in the fifth year (on the new moon of the first month). Line 23. And he entered in the sixth (year) thereof, in the second month, on the new moon of the second month, till the sixteenth; and he entered, and all that we brought to him, into the ark, and the Lord closed it from without on the seventeenth evening. 26 jubilees is 1,300th year Sixth year of the fifth week into the 27th jubilee is 34th year (4 x 7 plus 6) Did Noah enter the ark in the 1334th year of creation? |
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Post by whatif on Jul 3, 2017 18:52:48 GMT -6
Hi, bloodredmoon! I'm not sure... That's a good question... As I laid out the timeline of generations from Adam to the Flood, it appears that the Flood would have occurred in the 1656th year after Creation.
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Post by watchmanjim on Jul 3, 2017 22:10:03 GMT -6
Hi, bloodredmoon! I'm not sure... That's a good question... As I laid out the timeline of generations from Adam to the Flood, it appears that the Flood would have occurred in the 1656th year after Creation. Yeah, I'm with Whatif on this one.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 22:28:51 GMT -6
I'm not sure either, but those verses in the book of Jubilees are so specific, I'm having a hard time dismissing it |
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Post by watchmanjim on Jul 3, 2017 22:38:51 GMT -6
Well the verses in the book of Genesis are pretty specific too, when you add up all the begats and deaths, and so on. I've done that several times and always got a number pretty close to the one Whatif has. I'll go by what Genesis says over Jubilees. Your mileage may vary, though. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 9:45:38 GMT -6
Well the verses in the book of Genesis are pretty specific too, when you add up all the begats and deaths, and so on. I've done that several times and always got a number pretty close to the one Whatif has. I'll go by what Genesis says over Jubilees. Your mileage may vary, though. I'm not giving greater weight to the book of Jubilees although I'll be the first to admit I can see how it looks that way because I am admittedly bringing it up quite a bit . The verses in Genesis are specific but I've seen others count them up in different ways (using adjustments for different reasons) and coming to different years. Most come to a different year because of the starting point (which I'm OK with because that's the unknown variable) but I've also seen others add up just the genealogies cited in Genesis and coming to a different result, so I started looking at a few of the apocryphal books for missing clues. Do you have a favorite site that you believe adds them all in a credible way? Thanks! P.S. (later edit) Here's an example of what I mean (notice why he says he had to make a correction) biblescienceforum.com/2016/08/23/world-not-yet-6000-years-old/P.P.S. (later edit) Here is more of what I'm referring to - Are the Genealogies in Genesis 5 Complete? www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don_stewart/don_stewart_719.cfmP.P.P.S. (later edit) Interesting commentary related to counting up genealogies creation.com/biblical-chronogenealogies
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Post by watchmanjim on Jul 5, 2017 10:46:40 GMT -6
I'm a fairly firm proponent of being able to trust the Bible for what it says. Any alleged discrepancies have an explanation, and the explanation is sometimes easy to find and sometimes not. When the Bible presents a series of carefully tabulated numbers, as we see in Genesis 5, my trust goes to the carefully tabulated passage as being more structurally accurate. In the case of a seemingly contradictory passage to the precise one, I understand the (seemingly) contradictory passage to also be accurate, but to understand there is a reason for the seeming contradiction. Sometimes there are shades of meanings to a Hebrew or Greek word, or differing contexts, etc. Sometimes our thoughts are clouded by preconceived ideas. Other times, we just have not read and understood the totality of Scripture enough to understand the reasoning for the discrepancy. And there may be some questions that we simply won't know until we are perfected. Which--will evidently be very soon. |
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