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Post by rt on Jun 22, 2017 21:55:22 GMT -6
Interesting take on peace initiative and the vatican's role in it. This is what I believe is going to happen too, that the events that happen at the rapture, will be claimed to be the start of the millennial reign and the antichrist will be believed to be the messiah by the Jews. Also goes along with the alien deception. israelinewslive.org/Russia Shoots Down US Drone Near Syria Starts at the 5:26 minute mark |
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Post by watchmanjim on Jun 22, 2017 22:09:55 GMT -6
Very likely.
I've been watching some "alien" videos. I don't find them worth posting here because I can't verify any of the truth of any of it. But upshot is that people are claiming the govt. will be making a huge public disclosement about aliens in August. For what it's worth.
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Post by watchmanjim on Jun 22, 2017 22:22:28 GMT -6
I had to do a double-take when he mentioned the drone had a cost of 222 million dollars. That didn't sound right, but when I looked it up on Wikipedia, that's exactly what it said. By comparison, an F-16 fighter costs about 18 million.
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Post by watchmanjim on Jun 22, 2017 23:05:51 GMT -6
This video helps connect a number of dots. If he's accurate with everything he said, that is. A few thoughts:
I do think it is pretty clear that the three monotheistic religions are being rigged to cooperate unnaturally with each other. Trump's recent trip to visit all three was pretty clear. He also visited what might be called the capital of a fourth world religion--atheism--in Belgium. His trip was clearly very intentional.
I have had a moslem online try to convince me that Islam and Christianity can and will merge. False "gospels" or supposedly ancient documents are being unearthed to try to facilitate this as if it were God's will all along. What we are looking at is an attempt at sycretism of all the world religions.
I suspect the catalyst for making this a reality will be the events of Revelation, particularly the 6th seal revelation of the Lord Jesus to the earth, and the revelation of the hazards that are threatening the earth. The "alien abduction" of the rapture event and the sudden appearing on earth, in an undeniable fashion, of the "alien life forms" will probably bring the atheists and agnostics on board. "Aha! See, we told you, there never really was such a thing as God--there are just aliens, and they are responsible for all the things people mistook for God in the past." A strong delusion. And they will offer the old boondoggle of immortality to the human race--whoever receives our barcode/chip/serum/DNA editing/etc. will live forever. All who do not, their support will be discontinued. And eventually they will be eliminated as unnecessary parasites to the greater good of the "evolved."
And perhaps--thought the Bible does not say it, I conjecture--quite possibly the lie will be that the "enemy aliens" abducted all the wacko Christians and children to use for hostages. But---we have a plan. If you EVER hope to see your precious children or grandchildren again, you MUST cooperate with us. We WILL get them back. No, not the adult Christians, we didn't need them anyway--we'll let the enemy aliens destroy them or keep them as slaves or harvest them for parts or whatever they want to do--we will either negotiate or overpower or outsmart the enemy and rescue your children, but you MUST DO AS WE SAY! We. Have. A plan. We're the good guys here. Obviously. Because what kind of creeps would snatch your babies away from you? Seriously.
I also assume there will be a massive push to repopulate the earth with "new" babies to perpetuate the species--oh, but to enhance the species. These new babies are intended to be designer babies--you're gonna love them--and they will have modified genetics. Manipulated, terrible genetics. In fact, they are going to be extra-human. And it turns out, these terrible new babies will be nephilim spawn, like those in the days of Noah, and after that, in the days of Anak and Og. Remember the controversial thing God had Israel do when they came into the land of Canaan-- kill them, and kill them all, man, woman, and child--? We have often asked, Why would God have them kill children? Why not raise the children up as adopted children, or even make slaves of them--but why kill them? Wellll, if the children are not truly human, and have no redeemable soul, then the wickedness of these demonic creatures would have to be destroyed. And this would be true in the end-times as well, if it were to happen. Perhaps this is what this means then, in another controversial passage, Psalm 137:
Psa 137:8 O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us.
Psa 137:9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.
I am reminded of the account of Jesus and the maniac of Gadera. Remember the legion of demons? They begged Jesus to let them go into the pigs, and they were no sooner entered into the pigs then the pigs ran down a hill into the sea and were drowned. If there are huge hoards of demons out there possessing people and animals, might they go into these parahuman babies instead of the actual soul?
Just my thoughts for now.
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Post by whatif on Jun 22, 2017 23:59:08 GMT -6
Frightening thoughts, and I lean toward the same theory, watchmanjim!
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Post by whatif on Jun 23, 2017 0:00:36 GMT -6
But upshot is that people are claiming the govt. will be making a huge public disclosement about aliens in August. Wowww! August is our eclipse month... I wonder what will be revealed if that is indeed the case... |
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Post by rt on Jun 23, 2017 6:05:51 GMT -6
I have followed the new age channelers for years now, having done considerable research on them. They claim to channel these "alien" entities and they already give an explanation for the disappearance of those who believe in the "book". They call them a cancer that needs to be removed so that mankind can pass into the next phase of evolution, their deification. The claim is that many will be removed, though some claim that they actually remain in the present dimension while everyone else moves into the higher one, anyway they claim that those who are removed will stay in another dimension which will be like a classroom, and when they are ready they will rejoin the rest of mankind, once they can get passed the "false belief system" that impedes them. No I think the delusion will be so powerful and irresistible, that mankind won't have to have their arms twisted through the claim of hostages, they will voluntarily worship the beast and the dragon. Think about it, a messiah figure appears able to do miraculous signs and wonders. Look how Jesus changed the world? With today's technology and communication and propaganda machine called "news", this false messiah will be seen by the whole world almost simultaneously, he will step into the chaos of the aftermath of the rapture with an explanation. If so called alien ships appear in the skies, and this messiah claims to speak for them, most of the world will fall to their knees in awe and wonder. He will step into the vacuum left by all those who are true children of light, he will offer a false light to the world a light that is darkness.
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Post by watchmanjim on Jun 23, 2017 6:30:39 GMT -6
Yes, rt, you are probably right, they won't need much arm-twisting. But if people's children are indeed missing worldwide, that is much more of a problem than simply losing the Christians, which most of the people could do without anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 8:57:20 GMT -6
I wonder how many will be saved during this period. Not many, I think; people will have to keep their faith alive through works, won't buy or sell, and are expected to be martyred. People, knowing the sin nature, will want to buy and sell have 'immortality', and act as immoral as they please. I wouldn't be surprised if the 144,000 and Jewish remnant are the only believers on Earth. Maybe a few Gentiles, but everyone will FLOCK to get immortality and to be assimilated into the OWR. In fact, having the 144,000, two witnesses, and a few gentiles makes sense, because Revelation seems to rapture the 144,000 at the midpoint (Revelation 14 shows the 144,000 in Heaven's Mount Zion, before the Tribulation ends), and the Two Witnesses are raptured; this would mean everyone sealed with the Holy Spirit would be taken up. The people stuck in the Tribulation are without it.
Or, another idea is that during the Tribulation, the Old Convenent restarts, and the New stops. The only Gentiles saved would be the martyrs. This makes sense, because Jesus talks in the Olivet Discourse Jesus says, "Pray that your flight does not take place on the Sabbath". The Sabbath is not part of the New Covenant, so this supportes a Old Covenant revival. However, here's a problem:
Thus says the Lord of hosts: In those days ten men from the nations of every tongue shall take hold of the robe of a Jew, saying, 'Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.'"
Zechariah 8:23 ESV
This is during the Millenial Kingdom, and descibes mortal men. So, this implies that some Gentiles survive. So, what do you all think?
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Post by kjs on Jun 23, 2017 9:49:03 GMT -6
But upshot is that people are claiming the govt. will be making a huge public disclosement about aliens in August. Wowww! August is our eclipse month... I wonder what will be revealed if that is indeed the case... I am tempted to view this as just another "conspiracy theory" being shouted through the social media pipeline..... BUT stranger things have happened -- so i it does we can write another coincidence to things that "just continue to happen" list......... |
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Post by whatif on Jun 23, 2017 11:29:28 GMT -6
August is coming up on us so quickly--and yet it's getting harder and harder for me to wait until it gets here!  |
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Post by Gary on Jun 23, 2017 14:50:31 GMT -6
Rt, that makes a ton of sense. I've even seen a Catholic theologian argue that when the rapture soon happens it will actually be the Lord taking out the chaff to burn in the fire. Those left will be the good guys. A lot of people will fall for that lie.
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Post by watchmanjim on Jun 23, 2017 14:51:36 GMT -6
I wonder how many will be saved during this period. Not many, I think; people will have to keep their faith alive through works, won't buy or sell, and are expected to be martyred. People, knowing the sin nature, will want to buy and sell have 'immortality', and act as immoral as they please. I wouldn't be surprised if the 144,000 and Jewish remnant are the only believers on Earth. Maybe a few Gentiles, but everyone will FLOCK to get immortality and to be assimilated into the OWR. In fact, having the 144,000, two witnesses, and a few gentiles makes sense, because Revelation seems to rapture the 144,000 at the midpoint (Revelation 14 shows the 144,000 in Heaven's Mount Zion, before the Tribulation ends), and the Two Witnesses are raptured; this would mean everyone sealed with the Holy Spirit would be taken up. The people stuck in the Tribulation are without it. Or, another idea is that during the Tribulation, the Old Convenent restarts, and the New stops. The only Gentiles saved would be the martyrs. This makes sense, because Jesus talks in the Olivet Discourse Jesus says, "Pray that your flight does not take place on the Sabbath". The Sabbath is not part of the New Covenant, so this supportes a Old Covenant revival. However, here's a problem: Thus says the Lord of hosts: In those days ten men from the nations of every tongue shall take hold of the robe of a Jew, saying, 'Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.'"
Zechariah 8:23 ESV
This is during the Millenial Kingdom, and descibes mortal men. So, this implies that some Gentiles survive. So, what do you all think? Yes, this verse, and a number of others, especially in Isaiah, seem to indicate that a good number of non-marked mortals will survive the Tribulation to repopulate the world in the Millennial Kingdom. There will be a goodly number of Israelites and also a goodly number of gentiles. I don't know how many will survive, but even if 70 million people made it, that would only be 1% of the earth's current population. |
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Post by rt on Jun 23, 2017 14:57:59 GMT -6
Actually I have a different view. I think the 1/3 of the population that is killed by the 6th trumpet armies will be the tribulation saints. Gentiles, who will be saved during the first half of the 70th week and beyond.
Now I cannot be dogmatic about this, but the implication in the passage seems to be that the third of mankind who are killed, did repent of the deeds of their hands, while those who remain do not repent. Also the voice that calls for the release of the four angels who are prepared for this task comes from the "four horns of the golden altar", (Rev 9:13) that would be the same altar of incense John refers to when the fifth seal is removed and he sees beneath this altar the souls of martyrs. The altar of incense seems to be connected with the souls of the righteous, in Rev 8:3 the smoke that rises from the altar is said to be the the prayers of all the saints. So when the horns of the altar call for the release of the four angels to carry out their task of killing one third of mankind, I tend to think that they will be the tribulation saints, those who will die as martyrs during the 70th week.
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