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Post by rt on Sept 13, 2022 8:12:39 GMT -6
stormyknight , firefrorefiddle , Gary , mike , davewatchman , Natalie , Here's a thought from a different perspective I have for many years been following the New Age movement to see what it is they believe is going to happen. I truly think that the New Age paradigm will fit into end times prophecy. I have read thounsands of "channeled" messages, which I absolutely know are the doctrines of demons spoken of in scripture. It is not research for the weak hearted and if you choose to investigate, please make sure you are in the word and prayed up, because there is a dark power behind what these people say, that is very deceptive. Anyway, it is very clear to me that the enemy is waiting for the same event we are---the rapture!And what I have seen in my years of research is that they always ramp up their expectation for the big "event" in the fall around the feast of tabernacles, every year! I am not saying that these channeled messages speak truth, but what I am saying is that the expectation of our enemy is that big changes are for whatever reason always, anticipated to happen in the fall. What is also clear is that the enemy doesn't know in what year it will happen, but always predicts that it will around the feast of Tabernacles. It is a wonder to me that those who channel their messages continue to put faith in these demonic entities year after year when what they predict doesn't happen.
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Post by stormyknight on Sept 13, 2022 14:21:56 GMT -6
I tend to agree with you, rt , I try to keep watch, albeit at a distance, with some of these messages. I think the YT channel "God's Roadmap to the End" has done a pretty good job of picking apart that video "I Pet Goat II". There is a scene in it though that I am wondering about. The girl with the Tiger tattoo, who has an uncanny resemblance to Angelina Jolie, including the tattoo, is pulled back from her waving of the white flag by a skeleton with a party horn in it's mouth and fireworks going off behind it. I can't remember now what he said about it, but my first thought was the Mexican festival of "The Day of the Dead" which happens in the fall. Just another pointer to fall events? That's how I took it. oh and about the rapture... did anyone notice that this last full moon on Sept. 11th was the Harvest Moon and it had a VERY close brush with Jupiter? Huh? Huh?  |
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Post by yardstick on Sept 13, 2022 19:12:56 GMT -6
It is indeed good to see some many familiar faces again.
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Post by davewatchman on Sept 23, 2022 10:38:52 GMT -6
stormyknight , firefrorefiddle , Gary , mike , davewatchman , Natalie , Here's a thought from a different perspective I have for many years been following the New Age movement to see what it is they believe is going to happen. I truly think that the New Age paradigm will fit into end times prophecy. I have read thounsands of "channeled" messages, which I absolutely know are the doctrines of demons spoken of in scripture. It is not research for the weak hearted and if you choose to investigate, please make sure you are in the word and prayed up, because there is a dark power behind what these people say, that is very deceptive. Thousands of "channeled" messages? I don't know RT, that sounds like a lot. I'd be careful of the demon material. My luck I'd run into another Legion, (for we are many). I'm outnumbered. Something only the Lord can deal with. Anyway, it is very clear to me that the enemy is waiting for the same event we are---the rapture!And what I have seen in my years of research is that they always ramp up their expectation for the big "event" in the fall around the feast of tabernacles, every year! I am not saying that these channeled messages speak truth, but what I am saying is that the expectation of our enemy is that big changes are for whatever reason always, anticipated to happen in the fall. What is also clear is that the enemy doesn't know in what year it will happen, but always predicts that it will around the feast of Tabernacles. It is a wonder to me that those who channel their messages continue to put faith in these demonic entities year after year when what they predict doesn't happen. I know.
Even the secular news forum is quoting Revelation like they never did before. I still think we have more than enough material just by sticking with Scripture. Even if it's not the 10th, the 17th, or this September at all, I say the Witness 1 deal is still in play. The 17th counts 1335 days from the "darkened sun and moon not giving it's light. And it's the middle of the heptad (+ 40 days) in the secondary count of weeks. (The sabils of Jerusalem might throw me off a year, but I doubt it.)
I still say it's happening right now. Price action makes for market commentary. Trade the chart, do not trade a story. Because there's a lot of stories out there. Trust your instruments when the sky is too dark for visual flight rules. Our price action, our instrumentation, are the 18 prophetic time periods found in the books of Daniel and Revelation. Those "charts" are telling me it has to be happening now. There's a punctiliar point in time where we will hit a dead stop.
But as He has said, but of that day and hour knoweth no man. Not even the angels. So I'm fairly sure the demons will be strongly deluded. If I'm wrong they can sue me. It's been tried already and failed. I'm not even worrie dabout the people who say erroneous date setters cast a dim light. If I prove to be a stooge then I'll continue to rejoice that my name is written in heaven. I had some fun buying oil related equities after oil went negative on the June contract during Covid. I told my friends it was a hedge against the apocalypse. If I am wrong about us being in the apocalypse, I might at least console myself with a comfortable retirement. So I might also be a little bit guilty, like how you say you follow the "the New Age movement" for an indicator, as I look at the market condition as a potential predictor.
So I like to check out Greg Mararino from time to time. I never saw him talk like this, even a year ago, like he's talking this morning in his pre market video.
It's kind of spooky to hear him talk like this:
To hear a non spiritual guy say to include getting spiritual in our preparations.
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Post by rondonmonson on Sept 24, 2022 10:08:34 GMT -6
I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on what Pastor Mark Biltz has been putting out on his YT channel. I know we have been through so many "high watch" times that it becomes wearying, but I also know we must not give up. If what Mark shows is true, then in about five to six weeks, we will have a very high watch time. For myself, I am anxious, but ready. For those that would argue, 'well this has to happen first, or that has to happen first', I say, does it really? God will do things according to His will. Hello Stormy, been reading/seeing Mark Blitz for years, he was one of the guys who started the whole blood moons thing a few years back. I have always felt he was on to something, but he didn't quite get to the bottom of the understandings if you know what I mean. These appointed times are all for Israel, so when he speaks about the Feast of Tabernacles being on a full moon, I agree, but he is looking for a sign of the rapture instead. But Israel will be saved by Jesus after she flees into the Petra/Bozrah area for 1260 days, thus Israel will only tabernacle (DWELL) with God (Jesus) after his Second Coming, for his 1000 year reign (the Kingdom Age....thy Kingdom come). So, we can't look for the Rapture, Israel's timing is not ours per se, there are Jews in the Church, of course, they will be raptured with us, but "Israel as a Nation" will be saved by the Second Coming. The way to understand the Seven Feasts is that they are all APOINTED TIMES, God gave Israel a Lunar calendar for a reason. Israel were told to observe 7 Feast periods each year, Holy Convocations, which simply mean Dress Rehearsals in Hebrew. So, Israel were rehearsing events that would come to pass in history over 3000 years ago, every year. Jesus must needs fulfill every one of those Feasts as a real time event. Below is how he will do that. Spring Feasts fulfilled by Jesus
1.) Pesach or The Passover ( Jesus of course fulfilled this, we are saved by his shed blood. This feasts ending starts the 2nd feast and of course this is a foundational feast in which all of the other feasts are built upon, Jesus is the cornerstone of our faith.) 2.) Unleavened Bread (So, Jesus' death paid for our sins, because he was unleavened (knew no sin) thus Jesus fulfilled this also.) 3.) First-fruits (Jesus was the first-fruits of the grave, he overcame death, this is associated with the Barley harvest, which is the very first spring harvest, it implies resurrection also. Jesus fulfilled this by being the first resurrected from death, or first-fruits.) Summer Harvest being fulfilled by Jesus now
4.) Shavuot/Feast of weeks/Pentecost or the Church Age Harvest ( Jesus is our High Priest in heaven, both Jews and Gentiles who believe on his name. Thus Jesus is harvesting souls as the head of the church (his body). This Feast is all alone on the calendar, as is the "Gentile Church Age", and is described as the "Time of the Gentiles". The Spring and Fall Feasts are all about Israel. The Summer Harvest or Church Age has Jews in it but is mostly about the Gentiles being used by God to call all mankind home to the Lord. Here is where everything gets interesting, what always ended the "Summer Harvest"? It was of course the Feast of Trumps, I have to incorporate the next feast into this in order to show how Jesus will rapture the church, that makes this portion a bit longer, but its a must need teaching. Israel always ended the Harvest via the Feast of Trumps, this always happened on the New Moon, which brought in a New Year. This is where people misunderstand something Jesus told us about no man knowing the Day nor the Hour. You see, Israel went by a Lunar calendar, so they were on "God Time" so to speak and they thus could not know the exact Day nor Hour the new moon and thus the new year would arrive on. They thus had to send two witnesses up into the mountains to spy out the new moon, because of course they could know THE SEASON (approximate time of the new moon/New Year), the New Moon would always come in over a two day period of time. The two witnesses would send back word as soon as they spotted the new moon, then the Israeli leaders would start sounding the Trumpets, in 9 sets of 11 or 99 times, then on the "LAST TRUMP" they blew it longer and louder than the other 99 times and the Harvest officially ended, but instead of the Harvest ending think it like this, the "Summer Church Age" has ended!! Its the Rapture of the Church, it will end the Harvesting of souls by Jesus via the Church, then as we see in Rev. 14:6 an Angel takes over that duty, he preaches the Gospel unto the whole world from that point on, and the Two-witnesses will preach unto Israel only, they get 1/3 or 5 million Jews to repent see Zechariah 13:8-9. So, Jesus is fulfilling this Feast of weeks, the Harvesting of souls as we speak via us his body of believers, Amen.) The Fall Feasts yet to be fulfilled by Jesus.
5.) Feast of Trumps ( This feast always ended the Harvest and signified that the Feasts of Atonement and Tabernacles were nigh.) 6.) Feast of Atonement ( Who needs to Atone according to Daniel's 9:24-27 prophecy? Israel of course must atone before the 70th week can end. We see that they repent in Zechariah 13:8-9 JUST BEFORE the Day of the Lord arrives in Zechariah 14:1. We see that Elijah is sent back before the Day of the Lord to get them to repent as Malachi 4:5-6 tells us. So, Israel atones just before God's Wrath falls in Rev.8, the Seals are not God's Wrath, they are Jesus pointing out what is about to happen via prophecy just before they actually happen, Seals 1-5 are the Anti-Christs actions over a 42 month period of time. Seal #6 is Jesus pointing to God's wrath falling when the Rev. 8 asteroid makes impact and that is what releases the Anti-Christ to go forth. Only via the 7 Trumps does God's Wrath finally fall, but Israel atones before all this.) 7.) Feasts of Tabernacles ( The word tabernacle means to Dwell with God, and Israel thus fulfills this when Jesus returns and rules from Jerusalem for his 1000 year Kingdom Reign. So, Jesus fulfills all of these Feasts which were God showing them the whole history of the world over 3000 years ago, in these 7 Feasts or Holy Convocations/Dress Rehearsals. I look to the middle of the week Day of the Lord event, not the Rapture's timing per se which can not be an EXACTLY KNOWN APPOINTED TIME (Day nor Hour). But we can know the Season (Approximate timing) and we do 1.) by looking around us at all the events going on that matches end time events and 2.) by looking up for the signs in the skies Jesus told us about in Luke 21, those signs will make men fear, so what could they be? Well, Rev. 8, the four Trumps are one Asteroid Event, and it looks to me like Apophis will hit on April 13, 2029, so if we deduct 3.5 years from the asteroids impact date (middle of the week/1260 event) we get the Fall of 2025 as the coming Rapture, now we break no scriptural references by citing THE SEASON, we only error when naming a specific date, only God knows the exact appointed times, but as Jesus told us in Matt. 24:32-35 in the parable of the Fig Tree (which is not a reference unto Israel per se), we can know the season by looking at the ripeness of the figs, we know summer (our Rapture) is nigh. We can know the approximate time, just as Israel knew the approximate the Harvest would end and sent up two witnesses to spy out when it came in, we also can now the approximate time by looking at all the signs around us and by looking to the skies as Jesus told us to do. No asteroid is going to even come close enough to hit us in these modern times without us seeing t coming. Look at Rev. 8 closely, that's one Asteroid Impact 1.) Fire rains from the asteroid sulfur pieces breaking off. 2.) We get THE IMPACT. 3.) We get the FALLOUT or poisonous sulfurs or whatever kind of fallout it may be, which poisons the fresh waters. 4.) Then we get the skies being darkened by all the smoke from the burning trees and thus houses as 1/3 of the world burns, I think it means the two Americas burn (North and South) or the whole New World. This thus fulfills Seal #6 AND Joel 2:31, the moon looks blood red because of all the fires which gives us a Red Hue so to speak. |
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Post by yardstick on Sept 25, 2022 14:38:59 GMT -6
I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on what Pastor Mark Biltz has been putting out on his YT channel. I know we have been through so many "high watch" times that it becomes wearying, but I also know we must not give up. If what Mark shows is true, then in about five to six weeks, we will have a very high watch time. For myself, I am anxious, but ready. For those that would argue, 'well this has to happen first, or that has to happen first', I say, does it really? God will do things according to His will. Hello Stormy, been reading/seeing Mark Blitz for years, he was one of the guys who started the whole blood moons thing a few years back. I have always felt he was on to something, but he didn't quite get to the bottom of the understandings if you know what I mean. These appointed times are all for Israel, so when he speaks about the Feast of Tabernacles being on a full moon, I agree, but he is looking for a sign of the rapture instead. But Israel will be saved by Jesus after she flees into the Petra/Bozrah area for 1260 days, thus Israel will only tabernacle (DWELL) with God (Jesus) after his Second Coming, for his 1000 year reign (the Kingdom Age....thy Kingdom come). So, we can't look for the Rapture, Israel's timing is not ours per se, there are Jews in the Church, of course, they will be raptured with us, but "Israel as a Nation" will be saved by the Second Coming. The way to understand the Seven Feasts is that they are all APOINTED TIMES, God gave Israel a Lunar calendar for a reason. Israel were told to observe 7 Feast periods each year, Holy Convocations, which simply mean Dress Rehearsals in Hebrew. So, Israel were rehearsing events that would come to pass in history over 3000 years ago, every year. Jesus must needs fulfill every one of those Feasts as a real time event. Below is how he will do that. Spring Feasts fulfilled by Jesus
1.) Pesach or The Passover ( Jesus of course fulfilled this, we are saved by his shed blood. This feasts ending starts the 2nd feast and of course this is a foundational feast in which all of the other feasts are built upon, Jesus is the cornerstone of our faith.) 2.) Unleavened Bread (So, Jesus' death paid for our sins, because he was unleavened (knew no sin) thus Jesus fulfilled this also.) 3.) First-fruits (Jesus was the first-fruits of the grave, he overcame death, this is associated with the Barley harvest, which is the very first spring harvest, it implies resurrection also. Jesus fulfilled this by being the first resurrected from death, or first-fruits.) Summer Harvest being fulfilled by Jesus now
4.) Shavuot/Feast of weeks/Pentecost or the Church Age Harvest ( Jesus is our High Priest in heaven, both Jews and Gentiles who believe on his name. Thus Jesus is harvesting souls as the head of the church (his body). This Feast is all alone on the calendar, as is the "Gentile Church Age", and is described as the "Time of the Gentiles". The Spring and Fall Feasts are all about Israel. The Summer Harvest or Church Age has Jews in it but is mostly about the Gentiles being used by God to call all mankind home to the Lord. Here is where everything gets interesting, what always ended the "Summer Harvest"? It was of course the Feast of Trumps, I have to incorporate the next feast into this in order to show how Jesus will rapture the church, that makes this portion a bit longer, but its a must need teaching. Israel always ended the Harvest via the Feast of Trumps, this always happened on the New Moon, which brought in a New Year. This is where people misunderstand something Jesus told us about no man knowing the Day nor the Hour. You see, Israel went by a Lunar calendar, so they were on "God Time" so to speak and they thus could not know the exact Day nor Hour the new moon and thus the new year would arrive on. They thus had to send two witnesses up into the mountains to spy out the new moon, because of course they could know THE SEASON (approximate time of the new moon/New Year), the New Moon would always come in over a two day period of time. The two witnesses would send back word as soon as they spotted the new moon, then the Israeli leaders would start sounding the Trumpets, in 9 sets of 11 or 99 times, then on the "LAST TRUMP" they blew it longer and louder than the other 99 times and the Harvest officially ended, but instead of the Harvest ending think it like this, the "Summer Church Age" has ended!! Its the Rapture of the Church, it will end the Harvesting of souls by Jesus via the Church, then as we see in Rev. 14:6 an Angel takes over that duty, he preaches the Gospel unto the whole world from that point on, and the Two-witnesses will preach unto Israel only, they get 1/3 or 5 million Jews to repent see Zechariah 13:8-9. So, Jesus is fulfilling this Feast of weeks, the Harvesting of souls as we speak via us his body of believers, Amen.) The Fall Feasts yet to be fulfilled by Jesus.
5.) Feast of Trumps ( This feast always ended the Harvest and signified that the Feasts of Atonement and Tabernacles were nigh.) 6.) Feast of Atonement ( Who needs to Atone according to Daniel's 9:24-27 prophecy? Israel of course must atone before the 70th week can end. We see that they repent in Zechariah 13:8-9 JUST BEFORE the Day of the Lord arrives in Zechariah 14:1. We see that Elijah is sent back before the Day of the Lord to get them to repent as Malachi 4:5-6 tells us. So, Israel atones just before God's Wrath falls in Rev.8, the Seals are not God's Wrath, they are Jesus pointing out what is about to happen via prophecy just before they actually happen, Seals 1-5 are the Anti-Christs actions over a 42 month period of time. Seal #6 is Jesus pointing to God's wrath falling when the Rev. 8 asteroid makes impact and that is what releases the Anti-Christ to go forth. Only via the 7 Trumps does God's Wrath finally fall, but Israel atones before all this.) 7.) Feasts of Tabernacles ( The word tabernacle means to Dwell with God, and Israel thus fulfills this when Jesus returns and rules from Jerusalem for his 1000 year Kingdom Reign. So, Jesus fulfills all of these Feasts which were God showing them the whole history of the world over 3000 years ago, in these 7 Feasts or Holy Convocations/Dress Rehearsals. I look to the middle of the week Day of the Lord event, not the Rapture's timing per se which can not be an EXACTLY KNOWN APPOINTED TIME (Day nor Hour). But we can know the Season (Approximate timing) and we do 1.) by looking around us at all the events going on that matches end time events and 2.) by looking up for the signs in the skies Jesus told us about in Luke 21, those signs will make men fear, so what could they be? Well, Rev. 8, the four Trumps are one Asteroid Event, and it looks to me like Apophis will hit on April 13, 2029, so if we deduct 3.5 years from the asteroids impact date (middle of the week/1260 event) we get the Fall of 2025 as the coming Rapture, now we break no scriptural references by citing THE SEASON, we only error when naming a specific date, only God knows the exact appointed times, but as Jesus told us in Matt. 24:32-35 in the parable of the Fig Tree (which is not a reference unto Israel per se), we can know the season by looking at the ripeness of the figs, we know summer (our Rapture) is nigh. We can know the approximate time, just as Israel knew the approximate the Harvest would end and sent up two witnesses to spy out when it came in, we also can now the approximate time by looking at all the signs around us and by looking to the skies as Jesus told us to do. No asteroid is going to even come close enough to hit us in these modern times without us seeing t coming. Look at Rev. 8 closely, that's one Asteroid Impact 1.) Fire rains from the asteroid sulfur pieces breaking off. 2.) We get THE IMPACT. 3.) We get the FALLOUT or poisonous sulfurs or whatever kind of fallout it may be, which poisons the fresh waters. 4.) Then we get the skies being darkened by all the smoke from the burning trees and thus houses as 1/3 of the world burns, I think it means the two Americas burn (North and South) or the whole New World. This thus fulfills Seal #6 AND Joel 2:31, the moon looks blood red because of all the fires which gives us a Red Hue so to speak. Ron, I deleted what appeared to be a mis-post duplicate of the above post. |
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Post by Natalie on Sept 25, 2022 15:28:00 GMT -6
Lately, I tend to go back and forth on whether FOT is the Rapture or the Second Coming; it causes me to look expectantly but then not hang everything on that day.
but here are some random things...
I wish I would have written this down after she said it, but a lady in my Sunday School said something this morning to the effect of "If tomorrow God wanted to start things off for the End Times (in the context of our discussion she was meaning Daniel's 70th week), then He very well could." Just caused me to pause for a minute.
Was reading something online and they made this point - From 1 Tishri (FOT) to 10 Tishri (Atonement) is ten days (known as the Days of Awe). But FOT is a two day feast, 1 and 2 Tishri, and then there are 7 days, then there is 10 Tishri of Atonement. Rapture, Daniel's 70th week, then 2nd Coming on Atonement. I have heard that the Time of Jacob's Trouble would fulfill the Days of Awe, but it never made complete sense to me until I saw it drawn out and actually being the 7 days between FOT and DOA. So, the three fall feasts don't have to be all fulfilled in the same year if it is truly a picture of the rapture, the 7 years, and the 2nd Coming.
Was listening to One for Israel podcast about FOT (really enjoy One for Israel, but I don't always agree with their eschatology). They talked about how you could say to Israeli's today "Happy Yom Teruah" and they would be confused because this feast day meaning has been hidden or changed because the Rabbi's have changed it to Rosh Hashanah. It just made me think how rejected the rapture is and how the enemy would like us to reject it.
And I was trying to refrain from looking at day counts, but I did anyway. From 26th/27th to DOA 2029 is 2550 days (1290+1260).
I'm just so ready to go home for so many reasons. I can hardly wait to worship Jesus with all the other believers! And I so look forward to Israel accepting their Messiah. I just wish they didn't have to go through what is coming.
I'm trying really hard to hang on to this loosely, but I also think that it's time to go.
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Post by rondonmonson on Sept 25, 2022 23:54:48 GMT -6
Lately, I tend to go back and forth on whether FOT is the Rapture or the Second Coming; it causes me to look expectantly but then not hang everything on that day. but here are some random things... I wish I would have written this down after she said it, but a lady in my Sunday School said something this morning to the effect of "If tomorrow God wanted to start things off for the End Times (in the context of our discussion she was meaning Daniel's 70th week), then He very well could." Just caused me to pause for a minute. Was reading something online and they made this point - From 1 Tishri (FOT) to 10 Tishri (Atonement) is ten days (known as the Days of Awe). But FOT is a two day feast, 1 and 2 Tishri, and then there are 7 days, then there is 10 Tishri of Atonement. Rapture, Daniel's 70th week, then 2nd Coming on Atonement. I have heard that the Time of Jacob's Trouble would fulfill the Days of Awe, but it never made complete sense to me until I saw it drawn out and actually being the 7 days between FOT and DOA. So, the three fall feasts don't have to be all fulfilled in the same year if it is truly a picture of the rapture, the 7 years, and the 2nd Coming. Was listening to One for Israel podcast about FOT (really enjoy One for Israel, but I don't always agree with their eschatology). They talked about how you could say to Israeli's today "Happy Yom Teruah" and they would be confused because this feast day meaning has been hidden or changed because the Rabbi's have changed it to Rosh Hashanah. It just made me think how rejected the rapture is and how the enemy would like us to reject it. And I was trying to refrain from looking at day counts, but I did anyway. From 26th/27th to DOA 2029 is 2550 days (1290+1260). I'm just so ready to go home for so many reasons. I can hardly wait to worship Jesus with all the other believers! And I so look forward to Israel accepting their Messiah. I just wish they didn't have to go through what is coming. I'm trying really hard to hang on to this loosely, but I also think that it's time to go. It could be both Natalie, one is 7 years after the other, at least IMHO. Jesus blows the Trumpet to end the Harvest, but we are the Barley Harvest, I think Israel are the Wheat Harvest. I think the Wicked are described as the Grape Harvest (Wine-press of God's Wrath). In Rev. 14 we are given all three Harvests, but since the Barley Harvests happens 7 years before Jesus' Second Coming we get a flashback in verse 14. We see the 144,000 (code for 5 million Jews who repent) with Jesus, he harvests the Fathers portion, they have the Fathers name on their foreheads, they married the Father/God long ago. We were Raptured in verse 14 in a FLASHBACK (pre trib rapture) by Jesus from upon a cloud. Then the Wicked get harvested (killed) in real time. The Barley Harvest always comes first, then the Wheat Harvest. Barley does not need to be crushed in order to be harvested/sifted, wheat must be crushed to be sifted. The Greek word Tribulum is a machine that crushes Wheat, that is where we get the word Tribulation from. The Barley does not need to be crushed in order to be sifted, the wheat must be crushed before it can be sifted. So, we the Church do not need to go though the tribulation, we are ready to be sifted now, Israel are not, they only repent DURING the tribulation. The Church is the Barley and the Israel are the Wheat. Some Jews are in the Church, of course, but as a Nation, Israel will not be Harvested until the Second Coming, they must hide in the Petra/Bozrah area for 1260 days. Geeezzzeee, I started this to ask you about the 1290 and 1260 you were referencing, and why. But I get led in another direction, lol. I'll be short on this. The 1335, 1290 and 1260 can only be understood by looking at verses 6 (Angels question to Jesus/Man in Linen) and at verse 8 Daniels question to Jesus/Man in Linen. BOTH QUESTIONS are the same, how long until THESE WONDERS END!! So, both answers have to be the same. The first answer by Jesus in verse 7 is about Israel getting conquered and those those WONDERS (Dan. 11:36-45 by the Anti-Christ) would end after 1260 days (Jesus' Second Coming). Now, here is where most everyone goes off track, they are looking for something that adds up to 1290 or 1335, but the answer has to be the exact same thing, HOW LONG until these WONDERS END says Daniel in verse 8, so Jesus gives him two more answers like the first, which was an EVENT, that took place 1260 days before the Second Coming where Jesus would end the Anti-Christs rule(THOSE WONDERS). So, something ends 1290 days after it begins and something else ends 1335 days after it begins, both END via the Second Coming of Jesus. So, what are these events? Well, the Two-witnesses show up BEFORE the Day of the Lord which is the 1260, so they are THE BLESSING, the 1335. The False Prophet takes away Jesus Worship from the Jews who repent just before the DOTL, as wee see in Zechariah 13:8-9, then the DOTL arrives one verse later in Zechariah 14:1. So, the Jews repent at the 1335, then a False Prophet (Jewish High Priest who throws in with the E.U. Anti-Christ who will be the President of the E.U.) will stop Jesus worship at the 1290 or 30 days before the Anti-Christ is allowed to go forth conquering at they 1260, and he will also place an Image of the E.U. President or the Beast up in the Temple (AoD) and the Jews will only know to flee because they have heard it from the Two-witnesses and Matt. 24. We have seen a Jewish High Priest do just this 2200 years ago when Antiochus ruled, a man named Jason (real name Yeshua) invited Antiochus into the temple to make a sacrifice unto Zeus on the altar of God, he then mandated that all Jews become Hellenized, which led to the Maccabean Revolt. So, not only is Antiochus a TYPE but of course he had the TYPE False Prophet working with him. Bed Time, rather sleepy. God Bless/ |
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Post by rondonmonson on Sept 25, 2022 23:55:32 GMT -6
Hello Stormy, been reading/seeing Mark Blitz for years, he was one of the guys who started the whole blood moons thing a few years back. I have always felt he was on to something, but he didn't quite get to the bottom of the understandings if you know what I mean. These appointed times are all for Israel, so when he speaks about the Feast of Tabernacles being on a full moon, I agree, but he is looking for a sign of the rapture instead. But Israel will be saved by Jesus after she flees into the Petra/Bozrah area for 1260 days, thus Israel will only tabernacle (DWELL) with God (Jesus) after his Second Coming, for his 1000 year reign (the Kingdom Age....thy Kingdom come). So, we can't look for the Rapture, Israel's timing is not ours per se, there are Jews in the Church, of course, they will be raptured with us, but "Israel as a Nation" will be saved by the Second Coming. The way to understand the Seven Feasts is that they are all APOINTED TIMES, God gave Israel a Lunar calendar for a reason. Israel were told to observe 7 Feast periods each year, Holy Convocations, which simply mean Dress Rehearsals in Hebrew. So, Israel were rehearsing events that would come to pass in history over 3000 years ago, every year. Jesus must needs fulfill every one of those Feasts as a real time event. Below is how he will do that. Spring Feasts fulfilled by Jesus
1.) Pesach or The Passover ( Jesus of course fulfilled this, we are saved by his shed blood. This feasts ending starts the 2nd feast and of course this is a foundational feast in which all of the other feasts are built upon, Jesus is the cornerstone of our faith.) 2.) Unleavened Bread (So, Jesus' death paid for our sins, because he was unleavened (knew no sin) thus Jesus fulfilled this also.) 3.) First-fruits (Jesus was the first-fruits of the grave, he overcame death, this is associated with the Barley harvest, which is the very first spring harvest, it implies resurrection also. Jesus fulfilled this by being the first resurrected from death, or first-fruits.) Summer Harvest being fulfilled by Jesus now
4.) Shavuot/Feast of weeks/Pentecost or the Church Age Harvest ( Jesus is our High Priest in heaven, both Jews and Gentiles who believe on his name. Thus Jesus is harvesting souls as the head of the church (his body). This Feast is all alone on the calendar, as is the "Gentile Church Age", and is described as the "Time of the Gentiles". The Spring and Fall Feasts are all about Israel. The Summer Harvest or Church Age has Jews in it but is mostly about the Gentiles being used by God to call all mankind home to the Lord. Here is where everything gets interesting, what always ended the "Summer Harvest"? It was of course the Feast of Trumps, I have to incorporate the next feast into this in order to show how Jesus will rapture the church, that makes this portion a bit longer, but its a must need teaching. Israel always ended the Harvest via the Feast of Trumps, this always happened on the New Moon, which brought in a New Year. This is where people misunderstand something Jesus told us about no man knowing the Day nor the Hour. You see, Israel went by a Lunar calendar, so they were on "God Time" so to speak and they thus could not know the exact Day nor Hour the new moon and thus the new year would arrive on. They thus had to send two witnesses up into the mountains to spy out the new moon, because of course they could know THE SEASON (approximate time of the new moon/New Year), the New Moon would always come in over a two day period of time. The two witnesses would send back word as soon as they spotted the new moon, then the Israeli leaders would start sounding the Trumpets, in 9 sets of 11 or 99 times, then on the "LAST TRUMP" they blew it longer and louder than the other 99 times and the Harvest officially ended, but instead of the Harvest ending think it like this, the "Summer Church Age" has ended!! Its the Rapture of the Church, it will end the Harvesting of souls by Jesus via the Church, then as we see in Rev. 14:6 an Angel takes over that duty, he preaches the Gospel unto the whole world from that point on, and the Two-witnesses will preach unto Israel only, they get 1/3 or 5 million Jews to repent see Zechariah 13:8-9. So, Jesus is fulfilling this Feast of weeks, the Harvesting of souls as we speak via us his body of believers, Amen.) The Fall Feasts yet to be fulfilled by Jesus.
5.) Feast of Trumps ( This feast always ended the Harvest and signified that the Feasts of Atonement and Tabernacles were nigh.) 6.) Feast of Atonement ( Who needs to Atone according to Daniel's 9:24-27 prophecy? Israel of course must atone before the 70th week can end. We see that they repent in Zechariah 13:8-9 JUST BEFORE the Day of the Lord arrives in Zechariah 14:1. We see that Elijah is sent back before the Day of the Lord to get them to repent as Malachi 4:5-6 tells us. So, Israel atones just before God's Wrath falls in Rev.8, the Seals are not God's Wrath, they are Jesus pointing out what is about to happen via prophecy just before they actually happen, Seals 1-5 are the Anti-Christs actions over a 42 month period of time. Seal #6 is Jesus pointing to God's wrath falling when the Rev. 8 asteroid makes impact and that is what releases the Anti-Christ to go forth. Only via the 7 Trumps does God's Wrath finally fall, but Israel atones before all this.) 7.) Feasts of Tabernacles ( The word tabernacle means to Dwell with God, and Israel thus fulfills this when Jesus returns and rules from Jerusalem for his 1000 year Kingdom Reign. So, Jesus fulfills all of these Feasts which were God showing them the whole history of the world over 3000 years ago, in these 7 Feasts or Holy Convocations/Dress Rehearsals. I look to the middle of the week Day of the Lord event, not the Rapture's timing per se which can not be an EXACTLY KNOWN APPOINTED TIME (Day nor Hour). But we can know the Season (Approximate timing) and we do 1.) by looking around us at all the events going on that matches end time events and 2.) by looking up for the signs in the skies Jesus told us about in Luke 21, those signs will make men fear, so what could they be? Well, Rev. 8, the four Trumps are one Asteroid Event, and it looks to me like Apophis will hit on April 13, 2029, so if we deduct 3.5 years from the asteroids impact date (middle of the week/1260 event) we get the Fall of 2025 as the coming Rapture, now we break no scriptural references by citing THE SEASON, we only error when naming a specific date, only God knows the exact appointed times, but as Jesus told us in Matt. 24:32-35 in the parable of the Fig Tree (which is not a reference unto Israel per se), we can know the season by looking at the ripeness of the figs, we know summer (our Rapture) is nigh. We can know the approximate time, just as Israel knew the approximate the Harvest would end and sent up two witnesses to spy out when it came in, we also can now the approximate time by looking at all the signs around us and by looking to the skies as Jesus told us to do. No asteroid is going to even come close enough to hit us in these modern times without us seeing t coming. Look at Rev. 8 closely, that's one Asteroid Impact 1.) Fire rains from the asteroid sulfur pieces breaking off. 2.) We get THE IMPACT. 3.) We get the FALLOUT or poisonous sulfurs or whatever kind of fallout it may be, which poisons the fresh waters. 4.) Then we get the skies being darkened by all the smoke from the burning trees and thus houses as 1/3 of the world burns, I think it means the two Americas burn (North and South) or the whole New World. This thus fulfills Seal #6 AND Joel 2:31, the moon looks blood red because of all the fires which gives us a Red Hue so to speak. Ron, I deleted what appeared to be a mis-post duplicate of the above post. Thanks, I indeed double posted. |
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Post by Natalie on Sept 27, 2022 11:31:23 GMT -6
And so we keep watching and waiting knowing that our King is coming soon. |
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Post by Natalie on Sept 27, 2022 20:55:03 GMT -6
rt, thinking about what you said about the enemy and the time around tabernacles....that is my other guess for the rapture if it's to be on a feast day. But specifically, the last day of Tabernacles known also as Hoshana Rabbah. It is Oct 15/16 this year. The Hebrew phrase means "the great salvation". (Hoshana -- hosanna) I have some more thoughts that I may share later. Bedtime right now, and I will be out of town most of tomorrow.
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Post by davewatchman on Oct 29, 2022 6:36:18 GMT -6
I wish I would have written this down after she said it, but a lady in my Sunday School said something this morning to the effect of "If tomorrow God wanted to start things off for the End Times (in the context of our discussion she was meaning Daniel's 70th week), then He very well could." Just caused me to pause for a minute. I'm trying really hard to hang on to this loosely, but I also think that it's time to go.
I think it's time to go too.
I think I know what the Sunday School lady is talking about, or that I think or feel a similar thing.
So we should encourage one another with our words now.
I did a couple replies to this thread, then I deleted them.
I think we're so close to something happening, it might be too rude to speculate on it.
Like it might be better to be silent before the Day of the Lord.
There was a darkened sun in October, and now a moon not giving it's light on November 8. A woman on a news forum is watching for it. She posted a Scottie Clarke video of all things. I can't stand his voice, he sounds like that Neil Sedaka my mom liked. I'm sick of the guy. I think he wants us to vote for Trump on the blood moon? HUH?
Peaceful Sabbath.
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Post by Natalie on Oct 29, 2022 7:25:39 GMT -6
Scottie Clark went off the rails some time ago. I avoid him.
I too am currently just silently watching and waiting. It's like knowing He's coming just around the next corner.but not knowing how far away from the corner He is.
If you think about it, pray for my oldest. He needs to make up his mind about Jesus. As a mom, I wish I could make him believe.
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Post by davewatchman on Oct 29, 2022 7:54:41 GMT -6
If you think about it, pray for my oldest. He needs to make up his mind about Jesus. As a mom, I wish I could make him believe. I will, but I bet it's OK. Did your parents believe? I once had a Calvinist type of theory that the Father puts us with parents who are believers. He might just be trying to get out of going to church (Like I did). Does he claim to be an Atheist?
It might be different with a family member, especially a mom.
When I push an Atheist too hard, they end up getting mad, and eventually express a hatred for God, and reveal their true colors of Satanism. When you talk at length to the Atheist, sooner than latter they get angry, and the discussion inevitably shifts from a belief in God, to their anger against God. Or an anger of having to do what God wants them to do.
There's a video where some kid questions Bill Nye the science guy if God exists. I can see the anger in Bill's eyes when he says the real problem isn't if God exists, it's when people tell him that he has to do the things that their invisible man in the sky tells him he has to do.
I show these types of Atheists how they are actually Satanists.
They are in effect at war with God, and in one of the processes of Elizabeth Kubler Ross's five stages of grief.
Five stages of grief.
Denial.
Anger.
Bargaining.
Depression.
Acceptance.
Denial. The Atheist says in their heart that there is no God.
Anger. If there is a God, I want to know why He lets little kids get leukemia.
Bargaining. Tell ya what, show us proof, and WE will be the deciders if God exists.
Depression. Quiet time, the Atheist goes on a break from posting.
Acceptance. When the Atheist reaches acceptance on a global scale, they will seek to kill God. Satan will gather them for that great battle in the valley that is symbolically called Megiddo.
When the world is at war with God.
Like it is right now. Peaceful Sabbath.
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Post by Natalie on Oct 29, 2022 9:03:31 GMT -6
Thanks for your thoughts davewatchman Yes, my parents are believers and their parents were, too. Not all my cousins ended up believes, but not all their parents were faithful church goers. Same goes with my nieces and nephews. Sadly, I don't think any of them believe. My son believes in God and believes the Bible to be the Word of God. Yes, he doesn't like church, but did like youth group. I think his issue is with authority and submission and repentance. He also told me he wasn't a Christian and has a negative idea about religion. We have talked about it. |
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