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Post by fitz on Oct 29, 2022 11:45:43 GMT -6
Thanks for your thoughts davewatchman Yes, my parents are believers and their parents were, too. Not all my cousins ended up believes, but not all their parents were faithful church goers. Same goes with my nieces and nephews. Sadly, I don't think any of them believe. My son believes in God and believes the Bible to be the Word of God. Yes, he doesn't like church, but did like youth group. I think his issue is with authority and submission and repentance. He also told me he wasn't a Christian and has a negative idea about religion. We have talked about it. He may be like me as a young man. I believed, without a single doubt, but was deeply conflicted by what I saw in the Church. To my 18 year old eyes and sensibilities, what I saw was that everyone calling themselves a "Christian" went to church buildings on Sunday and followed a man who called himself a pastor, under which they did a bunch of stuff that wasn't making any difference and followed a bunch of rules publicly, but were hypocrites in private. True or not, this was my perception. Basically, a dead church, spreading a false gospel of works, and possessing none of the power Jesus said they should have (in and through Him). The Jesus I read about in the bible was POWER personified. I saw zero power in the Church. Rather, a 501C3 business that was having little impact on the world, but making a killing in cash transactions. I ping-ponged for years...sometime in this "church"...sometimes not. Fast forward 40 years, in 2014 I left the last "church" I attended for all the same reasons above. Finished. In all my years of prodigal wandering, I never forgot or stopped believing in Who the Power is. I never left the real Church. May it be so with your son. Praying. BTW, came here to post on the thread, but Natalie's prayer request touched me. Wow, Scottie Clark has gone off the deep end. But he is just deceived like so many others that think Trump is coming back to save us all. And I keep telling them, no, but Jesus is! Sadly my family has fallen into this cult. However, I can't shake it...watching for Jesus for 45 years...the last 5 years intensely...and I think it's time. 11/8 - 11/11 I feel like something is coming. I don't know what. At the least, maybe its just mass upheaval over election results that cause rioting, and chaos as we've never seen before. That seems like a very plausible thing given our present political climate and the deep division between party adherents. Or, is it the next big event...killer virus, an attack on the US, another hit to the food/fuel/supply chain, economic crash, some natural catastrophe... EQ, volcano eruption or tsunami? Or it could be the Rapture, during relatively calm and normal times (all things considered), followed by sudden destruction? GBY |
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Post by Natalie on Oct 29, 2022 17:01:19 GMT -6
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Post by davewatchman on Nov 5, 2022 6:53:48 GMT -6
Thanks for your thoughts davewatchman Yes, my parents are believers and their parents were, too. Not all my cousins ended up believes, but not all their parents were faithful church goers. Same goes with my nieces and nephews. Sadly, I don't think any of them believe. My son believes in God and believes the Bible to be the Word of God. Yes, he doesn't like church, but did like youth group. I think his issue is with authority and submission and repentance. He also told me he wasn't a Christian and has a negative idea about religion. We have talked about it. BTW, came here to post on the thread, but Natalie's prayer request touched me. Wow, Scottie Clark has gone off the deep end. But he is just deceived like so many others that think Trump is coming back to save us all. And I keep telling them, no, but Jesus is! Sadly my family has fallen into this cult. However, I can't shake it...watching for Jesus for 45 years...the last 5 years intensely...and I think it's time. 11/8 - 11/11 I feel like something is coming. I don't know what. At the least, maybe its just mass upheaval over election results that cause rioting, and chaos as we've never seen before. That seems like a very plausible thing given our present political climate and the deep division between party adherents. Or, is it the next big event...killer virus, an attack on the US, another hit to the food/fuel/supply chain, economic crash, some natural catastrophe... EQ, volcano eruption or tsunami? Or it could be the Rapture, during relatively calm and normal times (all things considered), followed by sudden destruction? GBY It's 9 years for me, since when I started investigating the tetrads in 2013...and I KNOW it's the time. Because I'm certain we're in the heptad. So I KNOW something is coming. Just like how Jesus said, early in Mark, about the "time" being fulfilled, that same "time", the 7 and 62 are fulfilled once again. But like you say about not knowing exactly what it is, or what it will be, it might not be a good idea to speculate on it right now. Until it happens. I talked to the Apophis guy by the way. He's a very nice guy. I think it was around 2018 he came on here with a post offering his Kindle book for free one weekend. It felt like it was 600 pages long. Reading it felt like I was emptying the bathtub with a tablespoon. He figured out some neat things though. Like Adam being 40 when he married Eve and fell. And the 7000 millennial day theory deal. He said there's another X-marks the spot solar eclipse happening in the middle east, 7 years from ours. But I emailed him and told him why I didn't think it's going to be 2029 or 2036. I told him I think it's happening now. He said are you sure you read the whole book? He was a nice guy though. He never got mad. (I tested him.) I think we're probably a lot closer to the actual second coming than people are realizing. Like how you say during relatively calm and normal times (all things considered), followed by sudden destruction? Whatever that sudden event turns out to be, I don't think there's enough time in the heptad for a very long tribulation. I tend to think that the prophetic time periods, inside of the last seven, are about all used up. Notice how the composite beast has lost his grip on Roe/Wade? I don't think that would be possible if we were still within the 42 months of his authority. If, and it's a big if, Monkeypox was the five months of Revelation 9, and coincident with the first vial, it means people are already "marked", or "sealed", with the seal of the living God. Because only the men who bore the mark of the beast, and worshiped its image, only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads, were tormented for five months. And they did not die, from the first case in the UK in May, until it shut off like a spigot this September. Five months.
 They were tormented for five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man. I read their stories on Twitter and Facebook. Men sought out codine for the pain that I won't repeat in detail here. Just to say that their puss filled sores were also around and near sensitive genital areas. When they had to go to the toilet, they would literally scream out in pain and curse the name of God for their pain and sores.
But they did not repent. Rather they would wait in long lines for vaccines and antiviral treatments. And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them. Like clockwork after five months this literally disappeared.
When something happens with Euphrates, we could be as fast as 40 days until we see the sign of the Son of Man. Fast as lightning that comes from the east and shines as far as the west. People are not going to know what hit them. The rest of us, the majority, will be lighting us the stratosphere by then, some as bright as the stars forever, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn. Peaceful Sabbath.
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Post by mike on Nov 5, 2022 10:04:43 GMT -6
Natalie you said this: I am wondering, do you truly believe that God could start week 70 at any moment? Wouldnt that cause a timing issue for fulfilling the 3 fall feasts? Again just wondering. Maybe I am not seeing something about how or who will fulfill the fall feasts on their day. If the Lord returned on 12/31 it would throw the feasts off, unless the calendar is squirrely
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Post by Natalie on Nov 5, 2022 10:32:51 GMT -6
As of right now, I believe that the fall feasts will be fulfilled 7 years after the 70th week starts. It might be a possibility that the rapture also happens on a feast day, but also possible that it has it's own day. It wouldn't necessarily have to fulfill the feast, but it could. But it will happen 7 years before the Second Coming, at the least. It could happen exactly or there might be some time in between. I hope that answers your question because I am not sure exactly what you are asking.  |
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Post by mike on Nov 7, 2022 8:23:50 GMT -6
Natalie sorry if that wasnt clear as mud For me if the rapture occurs at a random point in time, it wouldnt point to anything specific as we would look at day counts after that to fulfill. However now thinking about it a little I know some think there may be a short gap between the rapture and the 70th. While I am not of that view I suppose that if that were the case the rapture kicked things off to some degree. The note you wrote said the 70th week, which for me would be even more of a stretch as the week (7 years) would culminate at a given day fulfilling the feasts through those 7 years. If we look at patterns it would seem to me that the 70th week would have to begin at a precise time, not randomly. For example Jesus didnt fulfill Passover in the first year of His ministry
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Post by yardstick on Nov 9, 2022 18:15:40 GMT -6
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When something happens with Euphrates, we could be as fast as 40 days until we see the sign of the Son of Man. Fast as lightning that comes from the east and shines as far as the west. People are not going to know what hit them. The rest of us, the majority, will be lighting us the stratosphere by then, some as bright as the stars forever, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn. Peaceful Sabbath.
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Post by davewatchman on Nov 12, 2022 8:39:51 GMT -6
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When something happens with Euphrates, we could be as fast as 40 days until we see the sign of the Son of Man. Fast as lightning that comes from the east and shines as far as the west. People are not going to know what hit them. The rest of us, the majority, will be lighting us the stratosphere by then, some as bright as the stars forever, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn. Peaceful Sabbath.
Dave, did the men have this issue for 5 months, or just the two weeks the man in the article states?
Yes. The group of MEN of Monkeypox had the issue for 5 months.
Yes. The individual MAN in the article was sick for just 2 weeks.
I like that guy here who does the brazen picture posts.
A picture, even a disturbing one, is worth a thousand words.
Do I really think that the recent Monkeypox outbreak was the first vial, and the 5 months of the 5th trumpet? Seven months ago I would have said no. 7 months ago I would have thought that the 1st vial comes after the 7th trumpet. But that wouldn't have been the hill that I was willing to die on. And I'm on a news forum where we were watching this closely at the first reported case in May. Back then in May, I was watching for this to end in September. Even the secular people began quoting Revelation.
This recent Monkeypox was a different mutation than the classic version in Africa. This version had a ground zero event which occurred at a homosexual sex party in Spain. The participants flew in from around the world. They reported, strangely boasting, of what went on there. One guy was saying he had as many as 20 partners that night. Two weeks later the individual presented the first case on May 6, 2022 in the UK.
Technically, you can say that people are still getting infected with the disease, but the main event seems to be finished. It's pretty much over. Even though men were seeking death, for the penalty for sin is death, not too many men died, that weren't ready to die from existing causes.
So if you think that the image of the beast is Hal Lindsey's statue of the Antichrist that the man of sin will force people to worship, then you will not worry that the men suffering the harmful and painful sores of the recent Monkeypox outbreak were the first vial.
That word "worship", comes from the Greek "proskuneo", and can also mean to obey.
In my current view, the image of the composite beast, is the image of the beast that was wounded by the sword and yet lives. It's just that now the crowns have been moved from the heads in Chapter 12, to the horns of Chapter 13. Now it's the government in authority of this church/state entity.
Note how it's the similar participants, the usual suspects, which make up these lists.
Men who have taken the mark of the beast, and obey it's image:
(I got this list from a Time Magazine page which reported the first 21 nations to legalize same sex marriage)
1) The Netherlands (2000) 2) Belgium (2003)
3) Canada (2005)
4) Spain (2005)
5) South Africa (2006)
6) Norway (2009)
7) Sweden (2009)
8) Argentina (2010)
9) Iceland (2010)
10) Portugal (2010)
11) Denmark (2012)
12) Brazil (2013)
13) England and Wales (2013)
14) France (2013)
15) New Zealand (2013)
16) Uruguay (2013)
17) Luxembourg (2014)
18) Scotland (2014)
19) Finland (signed 2015, effective 2017)
20) Ireland (2015)
21) United States (2015)<-------1290 Days------->Sun/Moon
21) United States (2015)<-------1290 Days------->EofW
This is a similar list of the nations reporting the recent Monkeypox outbreak:
Could blood also be symbolic for life, death or mercy?
Interesting how rivers can appear as arteries of life when photographed from above.
Rivers, the arteries of the planet:
Rivers run dry, turn to death, in Europe.
The Great City plunged into darkness:
I think Armageddon is happening now, or we are in the late stages of the gathering for it. The world is at war with God. The great river Euphrates is dried up, and we are waiting for the release of the 4 angels bound there. But keep in mind, I always default to the nearest date.
The drying up of the great river Euphrates I see as a concept, I read it as symbolic language.
Even though, along with the Thames, Rhine, Yangtze, Mississippi and more, the great river Euphrates seems to be literally drying up right now.
The Euphrates river was always a large natural obstacle preventing invading armies from the north coming down into Israel back in the old Biblical days. When this river symbolically dries up, the green light is then given for the Kings from the East to bring Divine destruction.
Like the angel ascending from the "east" bringing the seal of God, and the lightning of Jesus coming from the "east" to the west, the Kings from the East are heavenly Visitors. God the Father, and Jesus:
So it's not likely going to be Asian armies, like from the Late Great Planet Earth, that travel to a literal valley north of Israel, but Divine Destroyers that come from the Biblical north wind of heaven.
Divine destruction comes from the north.
Nebuchadnezzar came down from the north and wiped out Jerusalem.
And notice during a time of restoration God removes the northerner:
I suspect that a bunch of the things that the prophecy prognosticators were having us watch for, have already just happened, and are happening right now. Because I think for sure we are in the time zone for these things to occur. If price action makes for market commentary in technical analysis, then the Biblical Prophetic Time periods can force the doctrine to be true.
So I don't think it's safe to say 2029, or 2036.
It's liable to be happening much sooner, or now.
Even so, Come Lord Jesus.
Peaceful Sabbath.
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Post by rondonmonson on Dec 5, 2022 0:42:46 GMT -6
rt , thinking about what you said about the enemy and the time around tabernacles....that is my other guess for the rapture if it's to be on a feast day. But specifically, the last day of Tabernacles known also as Hoshana Rabbah. It is Oct 15/16 this year. The Hebrew phrase means "the great salvation". (Hoshana -- hosanna) I have some more thoughts that I may share later. Bedtime right now, and I will be out of town most of tomorrow. I'll make this short  (I doubt it). The Last Trump is when the Rapture happens. What is that, what brings it forth? The 7 Feasts were Holy Convocations (Dress Rehearsals). So, they were acting out things they knew nothing about, but which all would be fulfilled many years later by Jesus. Jesus fulfills all 7 Fests in real time. Spring Feasts already fulfilled 1.) Passover (Jesus' blood covers us) 2.) Unleavened Bread (Jesus had no sin) 3.) First-fruits (Jesus was the first-fruits of the grave) Summer Harvest Jesus and his Church bare now fulfilling 4.) Feast of weeks/Pentecost/Church Age Harvest ( Jesus is our High Priest, we are harvesting souls as we speak. Israel's Harvest was ended every year when the New Moon of the New Year came in, they were on a Lunar calendar or "God time". This is why Jesus says no one can know the exact day nor hour. On this lunar cycle (God time) they never knew the exact day nor hour the New Year would come in, we do, we count it down every year !! This, they knew the season (right month in the fall) but not the day nor hour. So, they had to send two witnesses up into the mountains to spy it out, once they spotted the new moon they sent word back to the Israeli leaders and thus the Shofars started blowing (Trumps). They blew in 9 sets of 11 or 99 times, then on the "Last Trump" it blew longer & louder than the other 99 and that officially ended the Summer Harvest. So, when Paul speaks of the Last Trump, and in Rev. 4:1 when John says Jesus' voice sounded as a Trumpet, they are pointing unto Jesus fulfilling the Feast also, just like he is fulfilling the Summer Harvest as we speak, as our High Priest in heaven. Jesus calls us home to end the Summer Harvest. This is why we can not know the exact day nor hour, but we can and should know the season by looking at the signs, Israel knew withing a 2 day period every year. We can see, IMHO, by looking at Apophis hitting in April of 2029 that the fall of 2025 has to be THE SEASON, but of course we can't know the day nor hour. Fall Feasts yet to be fulfilled 5.) Feast of Trumps (Jesus ends the Harvest and fulfills this also) 6.) Feast of Atonement (Who needs to Atone according to the Dan. 9:24-27 prophesy? Israel, of course, Jesus' blood fulfills this, of course) 7.) Feast of Tabernacles (This Hebrew word simply means to DWELL with God, well, Israel will be where Jesus (God) rules for 1000 years, thus Jesus fulfills all 7 Feasts himself. The LAST TRUMP is simply Jesus calling his Bride to Heaven (Father's Mansion) where we marry him) |
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