Post by schooldad3 on Aug 28, 2021 21:23:23 GMT -6
With all of the confusion in the middle east and additional confusion surrounding the the timing of the rapture Paul tells us when it is time to start looking for the rapture. But he also gives very clear information as to where we should be looking.
schooldad3 , thank you for that great information about the seas (Ezek. 28:2, 8) as well as a reminder to keep our attention focused and our minds open. We as a people are clearly focused upon the Middle East because that is the heart of terrorism and has been for many decades. Clearly if Lucifer himself was going to arise upon the world he would come from this region of hate. In fact I have always considered Afghanistan as the armpit of the world and the place from which light does not shine except for a few glimpses throughout the day. A place of sweat and toil for a meager essence of survival.
You seem to be leaning toward Lebanon as the place from witch the man of sin comes and while that may be the case, the reference to Tyrus (Ezek. 28:2) makes me think of wealth derived from trade. Since Afghanistan is an economic armpit of stifled growth, then can we eliminate that country as the engine from which the man of sin is derived? I mean, if I was to come out of the pits of hell it would be Afghanistan from which I would arise. In fact, if someone does arise from Afghanistan to charm the Middle East then I would take a close look that he might be the man of sin. I can think of no other country from which flattery would have a greater power than from Afghanistan.
In fact, Russia and China are falling over themselves to guide Afghanistan as the newly arriving nation for the world to love. They all are bending the knee and waving their palm branches to this new world leader of commerce. Am I wrong to feel this way. After all, are we not running from them in horror of their Taliban emergence. It is so disgusting to see the yellow underbelly of our once great nation.
Anyway, thank you for another wonderful presentation. On another note, the mark of the beast may cause the great apostasy. Also, the following is my analysis of Ezek. 28:1-10 KJV.
1) "The word of the Lord came again unto me, saying, 2) Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord God; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God: 3) Behold, thou art wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that they can hide from thee: 4) With thy wisdom and with thine understanding thou hast gotten thee riches, and hast gotten gold and silver into thy treasures: 5) By thy great wisdom and by thy traffick hast thou increased thy riches, and thine heart is lifted up because of thy riches: 6) Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Because thou hast set thine heart as the heart of God; 7) Behold, therefore I will bring strangers upon thee, the terrible of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of thy wisdom, and they shall defile thy brightness. 8) They shall bring thee down to the pit, and thou shalt die the deaths of them that are slain in the midst of the seas. 9) Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, I am God? but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of him that slayeth thee. 10) Thou shalt die the deaths of the uncircumcised by the hand of strangers: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord God.
Please notice that the man of sin is lifted up by his riches (5) and he considers in his heart (5&6) that he is in sync with the heart of God. In other words, the man of sin is convinced that because he has gained wealth then he is clearly in sync with the heart of God. The wealth being the evidence by which he establishes that he and God are in line with one another.
From this central point (5&6), the Savior brings strangers upon the man of sin (7). These strangers to the man of sin are not strangers to God. In fact, the man of sin is a stranger to God and so it follows that a stranger to the man of sin is a follower of Christ. Thus, these followers of Christ that are called strangers to the man of sin (7) shall draw their swards against the doctrine of the man of sin and they will defile his brightness.
The parallel to this verse (7) establishes that the man of sin has in his conquest of wisdom and understanding (4) gotten riches of gold (followers of Christ) and silver (believers in God). This shows that the man of sin has Christian followers. Thus, in the parallel between Verses 4 and 7 the man of sin has Christian followers of varying degrees of commitment to God (4). And, that God will cause his faithful followers that are not following the man of sin (7) to defile the man of sins false doctrines; that he believes are correct as evidenced via his wealth (5).
The man of sin believes that he is wiser than Daniel and that nothing in scripture can be hid from him (3). The parallel (8) shows that the man of sin is brought down by the strangers, that are the followers of Christ, and this is Rev. 19:20. schooldad3 , I love your explanation of what it means to be slain in the midst of the seas (8).
Verse 9 shows that the man of sin will not turn from his conviction of being in sync with god even though it is the true God that slays him. The parallel (2) establishes that the man of sin actually believes he is God. Also, this man of sin sits in the temple of God and this is where the solid reference to Daniel comes in as you schooldad3 have explained in your posting; to sit between the seas. So it appears that the Verse 2 reference to Daniel is the abomination of desolation. Also here at Verse 2 is the reference to Tyrus that to me shows the man of sins acquired wealth as explained in Verses 5 and 6.
Lastly is the parallel between Verses 1 and 10 that shows the man of sin is circumcised and of Judah. Is it really saying this? Or is it metaphor that is saying the man of sin considers himself to be circumcised and in sync with God but he will die with the uncircumcised non believers. The latter appears to be the case because of the precedent set earlier in the chapter.
I think we can safely say that the killing of the two witnesses in Rev. 11 precedes the man of sin sitting in the temple at the abomination of desolation. So these verse above seem to have a placement at the third woe of Rev. 11.
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