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Post by schooldad3 on Aug 19, 2021 22:18:26 GMT -6
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Post by boraddict on Aug 20, 2021 7:40:08 GMT -6
schooldad3 , thank you for your work and it is very good. I had not considered that Neb's statue in Dan. 2 was parallel to the four beasts in Dan. 7. However, your explanation that Rome was simply the western region of the Grecian Empire is right on target; that Rome was simply an extension of that empire. And by the way, as the count in Chapter 2 shows there is the Babylonian Empire, Persian Empire, Grecian Empire that as you have explained continued as eastern and western. And, that western portion was Rome. From another perspective, your work on this subject is also supported by the two sons of Abraham that are Isaac and Ishmael. The former being Israel and his camp and the latter being Islam and that camp. Further, those who align themselves with the God of Israel vs. those who align themselves with the god of Islam. Please remind me again when Islam started rearing it's head. 1400's? I am still wondering how Rev. 13:18 fits into this. Do you have any suggestions?
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Post by schooldad3 on Aug 20, 2021 8:56:06 GMT -6
islam developed over several centuries but when Greece finally fell with the conquest of Constantinople in 1454 A.D. b Shia/Safavid/Persian in the east and Sunni/Ottoman/Turkish in the west. Political Islam disappeared altogether after ww1 and the Balfour declaration broke up the remainder of the Ottoman and Shia territories into 10 states. In 1979 Islam began to reemerge starting with Iran.
We will have to wait and see with regard to Revelation 13:8
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Post by boraddict on Aug 20, 2021 20:09:23 GMT -6
islam developed over several centuries but when Greece finally fell with the conquest of Constantinople in 1454 A.D. b Shia/Safavid/Persian in the east and Sunni/Ottoman/Turkish in the west. Political Islam disappeared altogether after ww1 and the Balfour declaration broke up the remainder of the Ottoman and Shia territories into 10 states. In 1979 Islam began to reemerge starting with Iran. We will have to wait and see with regard to Revelation 13:8 It seems that if the fourth kingdom crushes the previous three kingdoms as you have presented, (and if I have misunderstood then please correct me), then the fourth kingdom must dominate 1) Iraq (gold), 2) Iran (silver), 3) as well as the other eastern nations of the previously dominated kingdom of Greece (brass), and the western nations of the previously dominated kingdom of Greece (brass). To me there is only one way that these European nations will submit to Islam, and that is by nuclear destruction of someone as an example. And, as you have previously mentioned, months ago, Turkey is the big guy. They also had some nukes from the U. S. I do not know if the U. S. has taken those nuclear weapons out of Turkey. And, as Dan. 7 shows, three nations are pulled up by their roots. Which seems to be saying that these three will have no ancestral down line. They are totally wiped out (Dan. 7:8). This action is presented in Rev. 13:13 wherein fire comes down from heaven, the sky. Are we to see three of these ten nations destroyed as an example to the world? If so, then who are these three nations? Shia or Sunni?
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Post by schooldad3 on Aug 20, 2021 20:29:13 GMT -6
Best to call me. My contact info is in the PDF. To time consuming to type and i have a partially disabled hand. Lets do this old school and call me i can go into alot more detail.
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Post by boraddict on Aug 21, 2021 8:53:49 GMT -6
Best to call me. My contact info is in the PDF. To time consuming to type and i have a partially disabled hand. Lets do this old school and call me i can go into alot more detail. Thank you schooldad3, and I will try to call next week. One more thing that I noticed from Dan. 7:8 is that the little horn comes up among the ten horns. So it is not a member of the ten horns that destroy three of their members but someone else. Someone that has access to nukes but not Turkey. And, this someone joins the cause of Islam; I guess. Who would do that? Russia, China? Someone who is not concerned with the response of the U. S. and that would be China? After all, these two nations are supporting the Afghan regime right now. Perhaps that is why Biden did what he did; because China wanted the U. S. out and totally embarrassed. Now they move on Taiwan. Yes, China would move against Saudi Arabia, Jordan and a third nation, perhaps Kuwait, to destroy them on behalf of the other seven to stabilize the region under Islam. Just some thoughts.
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Post by boraddict on Aug 23, 2021 10:30:16 GMT -6
I bet the word "little" in Dan. 7:8 is metaphor for "big".
That is is not a little horn that came up among the ten but a very big horn and that is China.
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