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Post by watchmanjim on Jun 9, 2017 23:01:50 GMT -6
Ran across this interesting video at Informed Christians about possible demonic and/or prophetic ramifications of Hoover Dam.
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Post by whatif on Jun 10, 2017 0:32:34 GMT -6
Fascinating video, watchmanjim! I was recalling Revelation 12:15-16 as I watched it: Then from his mouth the serpent spewed water like a river, to overtake the woman and sweep her away with the torrent. But the earth helped the woman by opening its mouth and swallowing the river that the dragon had spewed out of his mouth.
I wonder if there is any dam that could possibly affect Israel if it were to break...
Or possibly, a dam near to wherever the wilderness is that is mentioned in Revelation 12:14. The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the wilderness, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent’s reach.
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Post by watchmanjim on Jun 10, 2017 7:06:03 GMT -6
Wings of a great eagle has always suggested to me that there would be an air evacuation, perhaps by the USA (great eagle). Where they go to, good question. There are many great dams in the world. But if this video is right, that there's a lot of satanic influence on this particular dam, MAYBE the hiding place of Israel is downstream of Hoover Dam!
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Post by watchmanjim on Jun 10, 2017 7:10:33 GMT -6
From my thread about Isaiah 19, I may have shown how I think I found the ancient Hebrew term used for a modern dam in prophecy. I'll try to do a little more research tonight.
יארי מצור = yi'ori matzor (the ' or i on the end of yior is grammatical, and does not change the key meaning.)
"Brooks of Defense" in KJV
Perhaps more literally "River limiter" Strongs H2975 and H4693.
Yior has the idea of a river, but many of the times it is used, it refers to a man-made water structure such as a canal. Matzor is a limit or border or boundary, but also has the idea of a defensive work, such as a fortress, earthwork, besieged place, fortified.
So put together I suggest this is the term for a large manmade earth-works type limiter of a river, ie, a dam.
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Post by whatif on Jun 10, 2017 9:18:21 GMT -6
Wings of a great eagle has always suggested to me that there would be an air evacuation, perhaps by the USA (great eagle). Where they go to, good question. There are many great dams in the world. But if this video is right, that there's a lot of satanic influence on this particular dam, MAYBE the hiding place of Israel is downstream of Hoover Dam! I'm so glad you brought that point up, watchmanjim, because I was having that same thought as a possibility while watching the video...
Hey, just on the same subject of the flight of Israel into the wilderness, how much of the population of Israel do you suppose will head into that wilderness? Might it be just the 144,000 who are sealed at the time of the start of the tribulation period? Perhaps that would give a solid reason why the protection in the wilderness for 1260 days would be at the first half of the tribulation rather than the second half. I've been suspecting it would be the first half, but I've never heard a really good argument for why it may be until this idea.
Also, where the Revelation 12 passage says the earth opened up to help the woman, I'm thinking that may be an earthquake. Would there be any possibility of a fault line anywhere near the Hoover Dam area?
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Post by watchmanjim on Jun 10, 2017 10:24:41 GMT -6
With the massive earthquakes the Bible predicts for that time period, I'm not even sure if there has to be a fault line already existing!
Regarding which Israelites go to safety, I really don't know, but I suspect it will be rank-and-file Israelites, men women and children. Jesus warned them to flee from Jerusalem in that day, and woe unto those who are with child, or breast-feeding at the time. So I don't think it will be just the 144,000-- it may or may not include some of them.
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Post by watchmanjim on Jun 10, 2017 11:05:48 GMT -6
In 2 Kings 19:24, the same two Hebrew words are used together in a phrase, that could be read to mean a dam, although the context of the passage is fairly confusing, so I don't know what it all means.
2Ki 19:24 I have digged and drunk strange waters, and with the sole of my feet have I dried up all the rivers of besieged places.
Isaiah 37:25 recounts the same occasion:
Isa 37:25 I have digged, and drunk water; and with the sole of my feet have I dried up all the rivers of the besieged places.
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Post by whatif on Jun 10, 2017 11:37:08 GMT -6
With the massive earthquakes the Bible predicts for that time period, I'm not even sure if there has to be a fault line already existing! Good point, watchmanjim!
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Post by watchmanjim on Jun 10, 2017 14:43:17 GMT -6
But without looking, I suspect the Colorado River probably is on a fault line of sorts, between the two mountain ranges--the Rockies, and the Sierra Nevadas.
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Post by whatif on Jun 10, 2017 15:41:39 GMT -6
I see the Grand Canyon is very near, as well. I don't know if that is on a fault line or not. I've been trying to locate a really good map of the faultlines of the US, but haven't found a great one yet. Anybody here at the forum have a good link?
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Post by watchmanjim on Jun 10, 2017 19:13:31 GMT -6
I see what you mean about poor information regarding fault lines, but from everything I can gather from the maps I found, there does not seem to be a massive known fault near the Arizona River.
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Post by whatif on Jun 11, 2017 1:04:23 GMT -6
Thank you for looking for one anyway, watchmanjim!
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