boraddict
You ask a lot of questions which is good but usually can’t be explained in a short answer. Since there are multiple threads involved, I will also post the question and answer in the specific thread so others can follow the posts on various discussions.
Birth of Jesus Christ
boraddict: Several people including myself have concluded that 3BC is the correct year and that September is also correct. For me there seems to be some correlation between the great sign at 23 Sept. 2017 and the birth of the Savior in Sept of 3BC but that is a subject for another day.Please explain why you are referencing the Savior's birth in your last posting wherein you said "Bible chronology and history can only go so far. It has to be backed up. Astronomy and Jewish holy days fill in the blanks. Then keep praying and studying until deciding a correct chronology."Bible chronology and history can only go so far but I need more evidence. Our primary source is Scripture (
2 Peter 1:20-21). There are other ways to verify prophecy time and events through secondary sources (astronomy, Jewish holy days) (Genesis 1:14) and lesser sources (history, commentaries). With the birth of Jesus Christ, Astronomy and Jewish holy days are God’s timing to verify dates.
Scripture says Jesus Christ was born between the census of Augustus and the death of Herod (
Luke 2:1-2, Matthew 2:1). John started his ministry on the 15th year of Tiberius (Luke 3:1-2) and Jesus started his ministry about 6 months later at thirty (Luke 3:23) that lasts 2½-3½ years counting Passovers in John.
I studied Bible chronology for months and there are still questions in the timeline. I am aware of some issues but I’m not a prophet to set dates for the Rapture and Tribulation. There is a whole chapter devoted to calendar errors pushing the year earlier or later. The 7000 Millennium and the cross at 4001 AM Jewish years are reasonable. Since Jesus died in ~27-33 AD and Second Coming is ~2027-2033 then we are in the Tribulation window of ~2020-2026.
Jesus tells us to see the signs of the time (
Matthew 16:2-3). Astronomy of the birth of Jesus Christ is one way through Stellarium. In 532, Dionysius Exiguus calculated Easter dates which set the birth to ~1 BC. The October 7 BC and September 3 BC have Jupiter conjunctions in the sky. The year 14 BC is out of range but it is possible to get to 7 BC by adding three years to the rule of Augustus and three year coregency for Tiberius. The 3 BC date requires a better explanation to move Herod’s death from 4 BC to 1 BC.
Add another line of study with Jewish holy days. The Jupiter and Saturn conjunction occurs on the October 7 BC birth on Tabernacles. While the Jupiter and Regulus conjunction occurs on the September 3 BC birth on Trumpets. Teddy Roosevelt’s inauguration (120 years), 9/11 attack (20 years) and Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s death (1 year) point to Trumpets 2021 but not yet. When there is a possible confirmation of the covenant (
Daniel 9:27) and China’s march to the Euphrates, (
Revelation 9:15-16) we will be homeward bound.
Three World Wars in the Tribulation
boraddict: Also, I find your statements about the wars interesting but there is a lot of open ground for debate.
There are three wars in the Tribulation but that is parts 7-9. The premise is that God shows us His plan for our time before the Tribulation. The seals and trumpet are parts 4-6 in the discussion 21st Century View of Revelation. Four seals and five trumpets occur before the Tribulation. The 7th seal, 7th trumpet and 7th bowl occur at the Second Coming. Revelation is written to encourage all Christians to see God’s plan for His people.
The Eagle is the United States
boraddict: You said: "The eagle is the United States" and this metaphor is simple enough. However, the birds tend to represent motion and an eagle flies long distances in contrast to foul that stays in a general vicinity. One example is the dove that is graceful and represents a member of the Godhead in motion (Mark 1:10). So the eagle is not necessarily the United States but a nation that travels long distances (IMO) as Great Britain did during Pax Britannica. Please notice in the verse (Dan. 7:4) that the eagle's wings were plucked and it was made to stand like a man and a man's heart was given unto it. How does this describe the United States? It does however describe Great Britain during the early 1900's IMO.
Another problem with the eagle metaphor representing the United States is that Matt. 24:28 states that the eagles gather to the carcase and Rev. 12:14 references two wings of a Great Eagle. Again, eagles fly long distances and the gathering to the carcase as well as upon the wings of the Great Eagle does not imply a reference to the United States but to traveling long distances. The short of it seems to be that the eagle references pertain to Christ's people in long distance travel. I say this because we also see the Savior's people called "foul" in Rev. 19:17 indicating that they are traveling a shorter distance and fighting a regional war. IMO
Daniel
2:32-33 describes a five part stature and
Daniel 7:3 describes three beasts or empire nations that merge together into the fourth beast with 10 horns/kings. The lion, bear and leopard merge into the Beast of
Revelation 13:1-2.
See discussion
21st Century View of Revelation - Part 3 – Daniel’s Dream.
The lion is the United Kingdom, the eagle’s wings are the United States, the bear is Russia and the leopard is Germany. In the New Testament, a lion is a lion but describes nine different things (
Daniel 7:3-4, 5-6, 7)
Lions in the New Testament• Out of the Mouth of the Lion: God’s Protection (
2 Timothy 4:17)
• Stopped the Mouths of Lions: Literal Lions (
Hebrews 11:33)
• As a Roaring Lion: Satan (
1 Peter 5:8)
• Like a Lion: 1 of 4 Gospel angels at the Throne of God (
Revelation 4:7)
• Lion of the Tribe of Judah: Jesus Christ (
Revelation 5:5)
• As the Teeth of Lions: Air War (
Revelation 9:8)
• As the Heads of Lions: Ground War (
Revelation 9:17)
• When a Lion Roars: Angel’s Voice (
Revelation 10:3)
• As the Mouth of a Lion: Language (
Revelation 13:2)
The United King’s symbol is the lion. They have nine lions on the UK royal coat of arms. The mouth of the lion is English spread throughout their empire (
Revelation 13:1-2). UK started as lion and built a vast empire but stood as a man when they gave away much of their colonies (India, Ireland, Israel, South Africa), lost others (United States) and allowed home rules (Australia, Canada, New Zealand) (
Daniel 7:4). The lion is not the eagle.
Sometimes an eagle is a bird (
Revelation 19:17), unclean animals (
Leviticus 11:13), God’s protection (
Deuteronomy 32:11-12) or a symbol for a country (
Daniel 7:4). The eagle is the national symbol of the United States. The Great Seal on the US one dollar bill has an eagle. The UK was an empire that travels by sea but the US eagle flies long distances as superpower around the earth. Flying started in 1903 with the Wright brothers and “the eagle has landed” on the moon in 1969. Germany’s symbol is also an eagle but is not a lion cub from the UK lion. However, the US was a colony of the UK (
Ezekiel 38:13). July 4, 1776 is the 17 of
Tammuz (Golden Calf). From Columbus discovering America to now, there are over a hundred historic days that fall on Jewish holy days and marked with the fingerprints of God.
United States in the Bible
• The United States’ national symbol is the eagle.
• The United Kingdom’s national symbol is the lion.
• The United States was a colony of the United Kingdom.
• The United States (eagle) was torn from the United Kingdom (lion) by the American Revolutionary War.
• The Declaration of Independence was adopted on July 4, 1776 or the 17th of
Tammuz (Golden Calf).
United States Symbols in the Bible• Daniel’s Dream - Eagle’s Wings
Daniel 7:4
• Russian-Islamic War - Young Lions
Ezekiel 38:13
• Israel Protected - Great Eagle
Revelation 12:14
The United States is instrumental in God’s plan to promote the Gospel throughout the world. Over a hundred US and world events occur on Jewish holy days. The US is superpower but is about to fall. Who makes us fall? Who replaces us? The iron and clay empire (
Daniel 2:33-34) of the British lion, Russian Bear and German leopard merge into the 10 king Beast but gives power to the 11th king – Antichrist (
Revelation 17:12-13). The stone (Jesus Christ) destroys the Beast at the end of the Tribulation (
Daniel 2:34).
Robert Cook
TrumpetsTX
www.21stcenturyrevelation.com