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Post by kjs on Nov 25, 2020 19:55:39 GMT -6
I cannot stress this enough .... I do not know IF this YouTuber is correct or not ... I am simply sharing something that I found Interesting.... I have no desire to defend it ... I find it interesting and give it a rating of Hmm it might be possible. Not that I have an excellent rating system... so of course take with a grain of salt. VIDEO The portion I found extremely interesting is the part .... which I feel others in this group would finding interesting as well ... I like many others in this group always assumed that the Daniel 70th week prophecy made it up to week 69 and then God placed a Pause between the 69th week and the 70th week. This video takes a different approach, rather than God Pausing the time clock, He extended it for punishment for the unbelief of Israel. He makes a strong case for the punishment extension theory (and it may even be true) .... I am not too sure about his timeline theory of when Jesus was crucified and rose again. (As in what year) But. The more I think about it, the more I am warming to the punishment extension theory ... watch the video (about 50 minutes long) and let me know your thoughts....
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Post by fitz on Nov 26, 2020 6:31:20 GMT -6
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Nov 26, 2020 15:30:09 GMT -6
welcome back, kjs ! I cant watch the video at the moment but went to what Fitz posted and have been following/testing a similar timeline as what was in the 5 loaves link. For me I see a consecutive decree of 70 times 7, based on several scriptural references other than Daniel with no "missing" week, the 2520 actually being something from about the BC timeframe in years to today's modern history and this having to do with Babylonian captivity. I am a full believer in 40 days testing for a man, 40 year testing for a nation, etc. and the End being operated equally as well from a starting point at the end of the 2520 years. The cycle being just that. A cycle, that goes from years to months to days to hours in 3.5 time increments. Numbers mean things just as the Word itself is written in letters. Happy Thanksgiving!
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Post by disciple4life on Oct 29, 2021 18:59:51 GMT -6
kjs , fitz , barbiosheepgirl , Hello to all my fellow sheepdogs/ Watchmen. Thanks for the link, kjs . I haven't had time to watch it yet, but hope to this weekend. This is some mind-numbing information that is related to the thread topic - specifically the 2520 day count. I can't help but wonder/ be amazed, at this number 2520. It makes me instantly think of the other number from scripture 2550 - which is 7 prophetic years of the Tribulation, and more significantly it's the total of the two separate day counts listed in Revelation and Daniel. 1260 = 3 1/2 Biblical or prophetic years. And also - the exact same number listed as the ministry of the 2 witnesses. hhhhmmmm. Then, we have the other exact day count of 1290 days which is one prophetic month extra. 3 1/2 years. Is this a leap month added. ?? According to the Metonic cycle, a leap month is added 7 times in 19 years, but it's not exactly every 2 years or every 3 years. There's a very precise pattern, which just happens to correspond to the black keys on the piano going up - (to the right,) starting at Middle C. Hmmmm. So this number - is the same as the exact number given in scripture for the 7 year tribulation - 2550 days, minus 1 Prophetic month. This may not be connected to anything in the video, but it just jumps out to me that this number is 7 years minus 1 month. Just seems that it's not a coincidence. hmmmm. Also - interesting -in all my life, in 12 states and 3 countries, and different churches across the nation - I've never once heard anyone give a good explanation for the 1335 days. What's that about It seems so random, but we know that nothing is random or by chance with God. Just in the last few months, i saw an end-times video related to the Blood moon tetrads, and he nailed it. It doesn't work most years, but it works out this year, and it also works out next year. Using Rosh Hoshanah - Feast of Trumpets as the starting point. If we use Yom Teruah - [Feast of Trumpets] as the starting day [The very next feast to be fulfilled, and the Last Trumpet, which Paul explicitly says the resurrection happens at the Last trumpet] - and add 1260 days - 3 1/2 years - it lands exactly on Unleavened Bread/Passover. **Passover is Nisan 14 and the 15th of Nisan starts the Feast of Unleavened bread and that's why on most calendars - it lumps the two together as Passover - 8 days total. Then, it just gets more mind-numbing - but it's exactly what we should expect. Then, add the second day count - 1290 days - 3 1/2 prophetic years - which makes the total of 2550 and it lands exactly - to the very day on Yom Kippur - Day of Atonement. ** Which just happens to be the very next feast in order to be fulfilled. hmmm. Then, get this - if we go to the midpoint - Unleavened Bread, 2026 and add 1335 -- it falls on Hannukah, 2029, - the feast of the dedication of the Temple, This would be just in time for the dedication of the 4th temple, built by Christ himself, which all the nations of the earth, will come every year and celebrate Feast of Booths, - Sukkot, when Christ Tabernacles with us - during the Sabbath - the 7th 1000 year period. Hhhhmmmmm. I'm curious to know if any of you have any thoughts, / insight on if these two numbers are connected?
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Post by whatif on Nov 3, 2021 12:36:53 GMT -6
Also - interesting -in all my life, in 12 states and 3 countries, and different churches across the nation - I've never once heard anyone give a good explanation for the 1335 days. What's that about It seems so random, but we know that nothing is random or by chance with God. Just in the last few months, i saw an end-times video related to the Blood moon tetrads, and he nailed it. It doesn't work most years, but it works out this year, and it also works out next year. Using Rosh Hoshanah - Feast of Trumpets as the starting point. If we use Yom Teruah - [Feast of Trumpets] as the starting day [The very next feast to be fulfilled, and the Last Trumpet, which Paul explicitly says the resurrection happens at the Last trumpet] - and add 1260 days - 3 1/2 years - it lands exactly on Unleavened Bread/Passover. **Passover is Nisan 14 and the 15th of Nisan starts the Feast of Unleavened bread and that's why on most calendars - it lumps the two together as Passover - 8 days total. Then, it just gets more mind-numbing - but it's exactly what we should expect. Then, add the second day count - 1290 days - 3 1/2 prophetic years - which makes the total of 2550 and it lands exactly - to the very day on Yom Kippur - Day of Atonement. ** Which just happens to be the very next feast in order to be fulfilled. hmmm. Then, get this - if we go to the midpoint - Unleavened Bread, 2026 and add 1335 -- it falls on Hannukah, 2029, - the feast of the dedication of the Temple, This would be just in time for the dedication of the 4th temple, built by Christ himself, which all the nations of the earth, will come every year and celebrate Feast of Booths, - Sukkot, when Christ Tabernacles with us - during the Sabbath - the 7th 1000 year period. Hhhhmmmmm. I'm curious to know if any of you have any thoughts, / insight on if these two numbers are connected? This is a fascinating thread! Thank you all for sharing your thoughts on the numbers! Here's something I can add from the book The Ancient Mysteries of the Essenes by Dr. Ken Johnson (I started a thread about this book in General History's category), quoting Dr. Johnson from Page 87: The 1335 has a specific meaning we have never been taught. On the Dead Sea Scroll calendar there is only one place where one 1,335 days fit between two festivals. That works out only if you start on a Tabernacles and end on a Pentecost. So, Pentecost is when we rededicate ourselves to God for the covenant of our age and "the 1335" is an idiom Daniel uses to refer to entering into a covenant at Pentecost. In saying you are blessed if you make it to a "1335," Daniel means that those who miss the Rapture and make it through the tribulation period will be blessed if they make it to the Pentecost following Christ's Second Coming. They will enter into the kingdom covenant.
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Post by venge on Nov 3, 2021 17:20:37 GMT -6
whatifJust wanted to say, I partly agree with what you said. Basically, the 1335 days are for those that survive into the Kingdom. But there is still destruction in the Kingdom. So does surviving into it mean only the righteous or does it also apply to the wicked who weren’t killed by the plagues as well….. For a minute, let’s forget when we think we’re raptured. In reality, it’s about when the door is shut. From that moment till he removes the wicked from his kingdom is a time of wrath. Since the righteous inherit the Kingdom, obviously there will be those of other nations that we are told will come to know Christ. They will survive the things going on. The kingdom becomes a great mountain and spreads over the earth, so I’m guessing that people who were unbelievers will survive and can be blessed as those who convert then allowing them entrance into the kingdom because outside are dogs…
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Post by mike on Nov 4, 2021 7:34:44 GMT -6
whatif Just wanted to say, I partly agree with what you said. Basically, the 1335 days are for those that survive into the Kingdom. But there is still destruction in the Kingdom. So does surviving into it mean only the righteous or does it also apply to the wicked who weren’t killed by the plagues as well….. For a minute, let’s forget when we think we’re raptured. In reality, it’s about when the door is shut. From that moment till he removes the wicked from his kingdom is a time of wrath. Since the righteous inherit the Kingdom, obviously there will be those of other nations that we are told will come to know Christ. They will survive the things going on. The kingdom becomes a great mountain and spreads over the earth, so I’m guessing that people who were unbelievers will survive and can be blessed as those who convert then allowing them entrance into the kingdom because outside are dogs…
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Post by whatif on Nov 4, 2021 13:39:26 GMT -6
whatif Just wanted to say, I partly agree with what you said. Basically, the 1335 days are for those that survive into the Kingdom. But there is still destruction in the Kingdom. So does surviving into it mean only the righteous or does it also apply to the wicked who weren’t killed by the plagues as well….. For a minute, let’s forget when we think we’re raptured. In reality, it’s about when the door is shut. From that moment till he removes the wicked from his kingdom is a time of wrath. Since the righteous inherit the Kingdom, obviously there will be those of other nations that we are told will come to know Christ. They will survive the things going on. The kingdom becomes a great mountain and spreads over the earth, so I’m guessing that people who were unbelievers will survive and can be blessed as those who convert then allowing them entrance into the kingdom because outside are dogs… God's blessings to you, venge! It seems to me that we have a few different groups of people who will go into the Kingdom. First are the past, present, and future believers in Christ who will reign with the Lord, all of us having received our perfect, resurrection bodies from Him. Next would be the remnant of Israel who have survived the Tribulation and have turned to Jesus and recognized Him as their Messiah. Also, the resurrected saints of the Old Testament will be there--that is an amazing thing I'm so looking forward to seeing! Next would be anyone else who has somehow managed to survive the horrific Tribulation period from any nation of the world and who have not taken the mark of the Beast or worshipped him. I am fairly certain, just by imagining the scene, that many of those who survived that horrific time of devastation would feel themselves incredibly blessed to be made a citizen of the Lord's Kingdom on Earth. Some would no doubt be Christians who escaped the antiChrist's clutches and will enter the Kingdom, while others may not have believed before Christ's return but nevertheless did not give themselves over to the antiChrist and his system. These latter would be those that Christ and we as His saints will rule over. Those who actually took the mark of the Beast or worshipped him will have no part in the kingdom. In fact, Revelation 19:17-21 shows us they will meet a terrifying end: Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and he cried out in a loud voice to all the birds flying overhead, “Come, gather together for the great supper of God, so that you may eat the flesh of kings and commanders and mighty men, of horses and riders, of everyone slave and free, small and great.” Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth with their armies assembled to wage war against the One seated on the horse, and against His army. But the beast was captured along with the false prophet, who on its behalf had performed signs deceiving those who had the mark of the beast and worshiped its image. Both the beast and the false prophet were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. And the rest were killed with the sword that proceeded from the mouth of the One seated on the horse. And all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh.I can imagine that anyone who witnesses that awful event, will be feeling mighty blessed to enter the Kingdom, even though the fallen nature will still be with some of them. There will also be people born during the Kingdom, and these will eventually be required to make a choice as to whom they wish to serve once Satan is briefly loosed at the end of the thousand years.
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Post by socalexile on Nov 4, 2021 16:57:15 GMT -6
Sorry if I missed it, but how does this calendar fit into the 2nd Great Eclipse on 8 April 2024? If I add 3 1/2 years to that, I end up with Friday, October 8, 2027. Rosh Hashanah is Oct 2 that year with Yom Kippur on October 11.
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Post by whatif on Nov 16, 2021 12:03:31 GMT -6
God's blessings to you, socalexile! I'm not sure how to answer your question about the eclipse. However, here is a link to the calendar on Dr. Johnson's website. You can type in a year in the window at the top of the webpage and it will show you the Essene calendar for that year. www.dsscalendar.org/
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Post by socalexile on Nov 16, 2021 18:52:04 GMT -6
God's blessings to you, socalexile! I'm not sure how to answer your question about the eclipse. However, here is a link to the calendar on Dr. Johnson's website. You can type in a year in the window at the top of the webpage and it will show you the Essene calendar for that year. www.dsscalendar.org/That site send up all sorts of red flags. It looks like it's just grifting old Gnostic texts using Amazon. No thanks, mark and avoid.
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Post by whatif on Nov 17, 2021 8:53:28 GMT -6
God's blessings to you, socalexile! I'm not sure how to answer your question about the eclipse. However, here is a link to the calendar on Dr. Johnson's website. You can type in a year in the window at the top of the webpage and it will show you the Essene calendar for that year. www.dsscalendar.org/That site send up all sorts of red flags. It looks like it's just grifting old Gnostic texts using Amazon. No thanks, mark and avoid. Good morning and God bless you, socalexile! Regarding the question of gnosticism, I can tell you that I don't believe it is Dr. Johnson's intent to promote that. He is a Bible-believing Christian and a scholar who has devoted much study to the Dead Sea Scrolls. Yes, he does sell books, but my purpose in providing the link was merely to give access to the calendar so everyone can see what it looks like. "There were Essenes who believed in the Tanakh (Old Testament) who lived throughout the various cities of Israel from around the second century BC to the first century AD. However, there were also groups of Gnostics and heretics who existed around the same time and called themselves 'Essenes.' Much how today's Christians must deal with groups of New-Agers calling themselves 'Christians,' throughout history, the Essenes had heretical groups take on their name. Even within the Essene Community in Israel, at least three different factions broke off from the believing remnant." (Source: Josh Peck, The Lost Prophecies of Qumran: 2025 and the Final Age of Man, Defender Publishing, 2020.)
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Post by socalexile on Nov 18, 2021 19:44:37 GMT -6
The Book of Jasher is a fraud. Third Corinthians is also. Maybe I'm a little hasty, but I just avoid preachers that push those.
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Post by rondonmonson on Dec 8, 2021 14:50:13 GMT -6
Also - interesting -in all my life, in 12 states and 3 countries, and different churches across the nation - I've never once heard anyone give a good explanation for the 1335 days. What's that about It seems so random, but we know that nothing is random or by chance with God. Just in the last few months, i saw an end-times video related to the Blood moon tetrads, and he nailed it. It doesn't work most years, but it works out this year, and it also works out next year. Using Rosh Hoshanah - Feast of Trumpets as the starting point. If we use Yom Teruah - [Feast of Trumpets] as the starting day [The very next feast to be fulfilled, and the Last Trumpet, which Paul explicitly says the resurrection happens at the Last trumpet] - and add 1260 days - 3 1/2 years - it lands exactly on Unleavened Bread/Passover. **Passover is Nisan 14 and the 15th of Nisan starts the Feast of Unleavened bread and that's why on most calendars - it lumps the two together as Passover - 8 days total. Then, it just gets more mind-numbing - but it's exactly what we should expect. Then, add the second day count - 1290 days - 3 1/2 prophetic years - which makes the total of 2550 and it lands exactly - to the very day on Yom Kippur - Day of Atonement. ** Which just happens to be the very next feast in order to be fulfilled. hmmm. Then, get this - if we go to the midpoint - Unleavened Bread, 2026 and add 1335 -- it falls on Hannukah, 2029, - the feast of the dedication of the Temple, This would be just in time for the dedication of the 4th temple, built by Christ himself, which all the nations of the earth, will come every year and celebrate Feast of Booths, - Sukkot, when Christ Tabernacles with us - during the Sabbath - the 7th 1000 year period. Hhhhmmmmm. I'm curious to know if any of you have any thoughts, / insight on if these two numbers are connected? This is a fascinating thread! Thank you all for sharing your thoughts on the numbers! Here's something I can add from the book The Ancient Mysteries of the Essenes by Dr. Ken Johnson (I started a thread about this book in General History's category), quoting Dr. Johnson from Page 87: The 1335 has a specific meaning we have never been taught. On the Dead Sea Scroll calendar there is only one place where one 1,335 days fit between two festivals. That works out only if you start on a Tabernacles and end on a Pentecost. So, Pentecost is when we rededicate ourselves to God for the covenant of our age and "the 1335" is an idiom Daniel uses to refer to entering into a covenant at Pentecost. In saying you are blessed if you make it to a "1335," Daniel means that those who miss the Rapture and make it through the tribulation period will be blessed if they make it to the Pentecost following Christ's Second Coming. They will enter into the kingdom covenant.I watched that same guys Beereshet "Drawing" a few years back and I kind of figured out what he was doing, he used the Letters in certain ways, where they an in Hebrew mean MANY THINGS and he thus formed a story, but I saw through it, its like having 5 answers in a room hidden, then asking a question, when someone give an answer you say look under the pillow, my answer was there. As per the 1335, why I replied to your post, I think most everyone doesn't catch verse 8 where Daniel the exact me question as the Angel aske in verse 5, when will these wonders end? What wonders? The Dan. 11:36-45 Anti-Christ "wonders" Daniel was shown. So, the Man in Linen answers in both cases with a set number of days, which can only mean it will be that many days unto the Second Coming ends all of those wonders. It is up to us tp figure out the events, they the 1335 is 133 das before the 2nd Coming, the 1290 is 1290 dats before the 2nd coming and the 1260 in verse 7 is 1260 days before the 2nd coming end all of these wonders Daniel was shown. We know the Anti-Christ who scatters the power of Israel will rule for 1260 days, so that's easy. But who people change the understanding in verses 11 and 12 escapes me. The Order
1.) 1335 means 1335 days before the 2nd Coming the wo-witnesses show up (blesse is he he comes to the 1335). They die at the 2nd Woe before Jesus comes, thus the fulfill their 1260 day mission before Jesus comes, thus they have to start their mission before the Beast does at the 1260. 2.) The 1290 = 1290 days before the 2nd coming, thus this AoD can not be paced by the Anti-Chris who only conquers Jerusalem/Israel at the 1260 event, so this is the False Prophet who takes away the SACRIFICE (Jesus Worship) after the wo-witnesses bring Israel unto repentance (Malachi 4:5). 3.) The Anti-Christ conquers Jerusalem 1260 days before the 2nd Coming ends all these wonders.
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