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Post by mike on Oct 23, 2020 18:11:37 GMT -6
Who thinks that this is a "political selling of each others souls" before the election? I see Trump orchestrating this in time to catapult him to victory. Not trying to turn this political but all of this has huge ramifications in the spirit. (Actually I believe that since we are the image of Him, this physical is a reflection of the spiritual)
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Post by Natalie on Oct 23, 2020 19:25:19 GMT -6
I see it as definitely a choosing of sides. Time will tell which side each eventually ends up on. And time will tell if this is the "many" that the covenant to come is built on.
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Post by disciple4life on Oct 23, 2020 19:53:33 GMT -6
Just because a nation signs a "normalization" or "peace" agreement doesn't necessarily mean they will abide by it. Perception of peace. Yes, sir, spot on, sog. Your point also underscores the belief by several well-known highly esteemed teachers of end-times, that the countries of the Ezek 38 war, are seizing upon a once-in-an-eternity event - striking while the iron is hot, with the rapture, and the country/ countries who are Israel's biggest allies - just happen to be the countries with some of the highest percentages of Christians - USA and England - and there would be tens of millions of police, firemen, senators, congressmen and women, military officers and regular enlisted men and women, including the highest members of government. There would be total anarchy and hysteria that would make the 100 days of non-stop riots, burning and looting in Portland look like a game of monopoly. World leaders would be scrambling just to come up with a cohesive story - that matches what the prime minister of Germany, Norway and Sweden are saying. All of the "members of a treaty or normalization agreement would flip faster than a salmon on a hot rock. : |
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Post by disciple4life on Oct 23, 2020 20:13:18 GMT -6
Who thinks that this is a "political selling of each others souls" before the election? I see Trump orchestrating this in time to catapult him to victory. Not trying to turn this political but all of this has huge ramifications in the spirit. (Actually I believe that since we are the image of Him, this physical is a reflection of the spiritual) You nailed it, my brother !! This Absolutely has huge political and spiritual implications. One thing - regardless of what party one supports, or no party, or no candidate, - one thing is certain - Biden is very pro-Iran, and Obama/Biden gave $45,000,000,000 US Taxpayer dollars to Iran, literally in cash, on pallets, in an unmarked plane, in the middle of the night, and Obama hated Netanyahu and Israel - and every Arab country knows this. Saudi Arabia and Iraq are Sunni, and Iran is Shia. Their hatred for each other is only matched by their hatred for Isreal. These countries know that if Biden were elected, then the possibility for bilateral/ mutual trade agreements would be totally gone. Out of the question. They are terrified that if he is elected, then he will also lift the sanctions on Iran, [which then is much much closer to nuclear weapons,] but the Abraham accords are binding treaties between multiple countries - not able to simply be cancelled or nullified by a president and his pen. My bet is that we will see Saudi Arabia also come to the table and join the party before the election. |
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Post by disciple4life on Oct 24, 2020 17:26:39 GMT -6
mike , Natalie , disciple4life ,@gary, sog , yardstick , venge nana , bruce , joe , bernie , Beloved , www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/morgan-ortagus-trumps-sudan-israel-peace-deal-unprecedented/vi-BB1ammWFIt's really mind-numbing that the last normalization/trade & peace deal between Israel and an Arab country was 26 years ago. The other deal was more than 20 years ago - in the late 1970's i think. Regardless of a person's opinion of Israel, Trump, Netanyahu, and Sudan, Bahrain, and UAE, or any other players in this saga - it's clear that 1. This is absolutely a huge deal historically, - nothing else like this in modern history - and it also has major political, economic and military implications for trade and purchasing of military weapons from Israel, and the US, and it also dramatically changes the game of Jordanian Arabs [so-called Palestinians] blackmailing Arab countries and keeping them from entering into normalization agreements with Israel on their own. And 2. The spiritual implications of this are also huge. We are seeing prophecy being fulfilled before our very eyes. Now, we've seen 3 countries join on in 3 months and others are in line. The link of the press conference above, Trump says that as many as 5 more are in talks now. The biggest question is which other Arab countries will be next. Saudi Arabia is a very strong candidate - It's practically a done deal, because they have already given the green light for direct flights from UAE and Israel, Is this the "covenant with many" that is later strengthened by the AC,  or is it the pieces coming into place for the Ezekiel 38 war.?? Only time will tell. Can any of you fellow watchmen confirm if the Abraham Accord does have language that actually states that land must be set aside for a " Jordanian Arabs (so-called palestinians) ?? Does it mandate dividing Israel or call for the recognition of a so-called two-state scenario?
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Post by Natalie on Oct 24, 2020 19:36:52 GMT -6
I have heard suggestions of Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Morocco.
I don't know what's in the Accords. Has the details been released?
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Post by yardstick on Oct 24, 2020 23:02:44 GMT -6
I havent had time to look into it deeply enough.
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Post by venge on Oct 25, 2020 7:48:25 GMT -6
I have heard suggestions of Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Morocco. I don't know what's in the Accords. Has the details been released? Just the onset of it on the State Depts site echoes what God said DONT do in the OT because it would lead to the Jews bringing in other idols. IMHO, There is only 1 Abrahamic faith, but 3 religions. In the millennial Kingdom, it will be Christ Kingdom..not the Mahdi, not a different (Jewish) Messiah that hasnt come yet. God is God, never changing. And Islam was never part of that. It ended with Christ, not Muhammed. /rant over. Bahrain: UAE: Link: www.state.gov/the-abraham-accords/Typical expected things that nations do with each other. The real test, IMO, is on the world stage. If Israel provides certain needs to these nations, does Israel expect them to back Israel in the UN when in the past they did not? That's what nations do there, I scratch your back, you scratch mine. The same for Israel, do they back up these nations in the UN against say Europe or the USA when they would not have before the process? Itll be interesting to see where this goes in 20 years from now... |
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Post by Natalie on Oct 25, 2020 11:01:36 GMT -6
Thanks, venge.
I think peace and cooperation among nations is great, but promoting the interfaith stuff and naming it the Abraham accords just makes me a bit hesitant.
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