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Post by mike on Aug 25, 2020 8:31:38 GMT -6
venge go rest bro, we'll pick up again tomorrow or Thurs Lord willing 
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Post by uscgvet on Aug 25, 2020 8:34:33 GMT -6
Question: what are your thoughts on Christ holding the Scribes and Pharisees accountable for not knowing his arrival date? Was Jesus not justified in doing so? Are you talking about them not understanding his birth or his evangelizing? I think Jesus was justified. I think of Luke 16 in this regard. Whether it was his arrival or his resurrection...they had ears that didnt want to hear and eyes that were blind though they saw all he did. Do you mean to link those that didnt understand a future event to being punished to those that dont understand prophecy as being punished? I dont take it that way if that is what you mean. People, regardless if they understand prophecy or not, it all comes down to receiving the gospel. They saw and heard and denied all things. That was the key part of verse 30 above..."repent" and that repenting is part of believing. Perhaps I misunderstand your question. I am quite tired and didnt sleep well. Kids are killing me if Covid doesnt first. My reference was to Matthew 16:3 And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowering. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times? Would God hold us accountable in the same fashion? Just something to ponder. I agree with you that the gospel of the good news is the point of all of this today. |
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Post by uscgvet on Aug 25, 2020 8:54:56 GMT -6
uscgvet have you seen the Edgewater Church series on the Metonic Cycle? Very very interesting regarding the day counts as pertaining to the cycle. I'll see if I can find it. EDIT-this is the third part and IMO the most critical one as he points out the possibilities for day counts to fit within the 1290 and the possible 'date set' EDIT 2 - this is bondservant 's pastor and in my opinion a very very good teacher. If youre not interested in watching the entire clip, go to 44 minutes and see the possible date ranges Whoa! The metonic cycle of every 19 solar years would end up with a similar lunar pattern for that year as 19 years ago, which means the Feast Days should fall within the proper day counts as starting from 2017. That's big. Thank you mike . 2017 + 19 = 2036. Very very interesting... Edit1: Oh wow, he also believes in the 7 years of plenty and 7 years of want theory too. I too hold to that belief. This is getting me excited. I'm still watching his video. I started from the beginning. Edit 2: So if the 7 years of plenty + 7 years of want hold true He sees a proper metonic cycle from 2025 to 2032.... That's really REALLY interesting! REALLY! Oh man! 2032 AD would be right at the end; the possible 6000th year of the 7000 year total timeline (1 Samuel 10:3-4). |
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rondonmonson
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Post by rondonmonson on Sept 3, 2020 15:12:59 GMT -6
Hi I'm new on this forum so I hope this is the right place to ask this question. In BoR at the end of each judgement, Rev 6:12-17 Rev 11:15-19 Rev 16:17-20 It seams as if they are similar and final. How many times can the sky roll up and every island disappear. How many huge earthquakes can there be that destroys massive areas and there are declarations of God's Wrath be finalized in 11:15 & 16:17. Or are these views of the same ending from different points of view? Also the seals are called the "wrath of the lamb," and the bowls are called "God's Wrath," could the Trumpets be the wrath of the Spirit of God? The Seals are not ACTIONABLE, in other words, the Seals are onlyJesus describing what's COMING over the 42 Month Wrath of God AND that includes the Anti-Christ who becomes a Beast on the very day that the DOTL begins, because he chooses strategically to make his move on that chaotic day.Thus the First 5 Seals describe what the Anti-Christ brings forth over a 42 month reign of terror. Then the 6th Seal describes God's coming Wrath that begins with the First Trump. The Seals are just Jesus opening the 7 different "LOCKS" so to speak that must come off before the Judgments can be read/passed on. The Four Horses represent 42 months of Conquering, 42 months of War, 42 months of Famine caused by said wars, and 42 months of Death and Sickness. The 5th Seal is his 42 months of Martyrs of the Saints who come to Christ Jesus AFTER the Rapture. Then the 6th Seal shows God's coming Wrath, the Sun and Moon will go dark like Joel 2:31 says, as soon as the ASTEROID STRIKES (See Rev. 8.......Trumps 1-4 are all the same asteroid strike that begins the DOTL). The Anti-Christ uses this chaos to go forth conquering. He understands dark sentences, OR, Satan leads him strategically to do these type things that would seem odd to everyone else. An Asteroid strikes, everyone else tries to help out their fellow man/Mankind, he sees an strategic advantage, the USA is in chaos. If Apophis strikes off the California Coastline (Mountain into the sea) in 2029 it will indeed be chaos. By the way, the Pacific Ocean has 1/3 of the worlds waters, and the Americas combined have 1/3 of the total Landmass in the world. So, the Seals are just containing the Judgments inside them, the Trumps are the Judgments IN FULL really, because the first four Trumpet Judgments are all the same thing, the Asteroid strike, Trump #1 is the Fire that comes in ahead of any asteroid strike, Trump #2 is the Mountain (asteroid) plunging into the Sea as God says, Trump #3 is the same asteroid or "MOUNTAIN" God just shows it as coming in hot, thus John called it a star...... to show it will contaminate/poison the waters/WORMWOOD. The Burning SUBSTANCE, whatsoever it be, will be poisonous, it could be an UNKNOWN METAL to us, but there are plenty of metals that we know of that would poison waters via an impact and explosion My point is, the reason its shown as coming in hot (STAR to John) is to show why it poisons the fresh waters. Trump #4 is just the smoke and debris that blot out the Sun and Moon as Joel 2:31 shows AND as Revelation 6, the 6th Seal foretells !! The 7th Seal is silent because judgment has arrived. The other 3 Trumps are the 3 Woes, Rev. 8:13 says so. So, Trump 5 is Woe #1, Trump 6 is Woe #2 and Trump 7 is Woe #3. Thus the 7 Vials are collectively the 3rd Woe. Rev. 11:15-19, Rev. 16:19, Rev. 14:17-20 and Rev. 19:17-20 are all the same event. Babylon falls. |
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Post by boraddict on Sept 3, 2020 19:39:49 GMT -6
Hi I'm new on this forum so I hope this is the right place to ask this question. In BoR at the end of each judgement, Rev 6:12-17 Rev 11:15-19 Rev 16:17-20 It seams as if they are similar and final. How many times can the sky roll up and every island disappear. How many huge earthquakes can there be that destroys massive areas and there are declarations of God's Wrath be finalized in 11:15 & 16:17. Or are these views of the same ending from different points of view? Also the seals are called the "wrath of the lamb," and the bowls are called "God's Wrath," could the Trumpets be the wrath of the Spirit of God? Hi hugh, it seems that there are multiple overlaying prophecies throughout the Book of Revelation. I have found in my research clear and concise interpretations only to look at the same language days later and find different and equally clear and concise interpretations. Perhaps all the books of scripture display this phenomenon but it is exciting to find so many different things in this marvelous book. My interpretation style now leans to the less literal and more metaphorical. I love rondon's interpretation but hope we do not have to wait all those long years for the grand finally. |
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