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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 23:42:39 GMT -6
Is being laid.
Leave it to Jason A to give me chills.
I believe UFOs will be part of the great delusion and used to explain our absence. See, the conservatives are the ones fighting against globalism, socialism, and masks, and the majority of convicted Believers are conservative. So the explanation can be that we were removed for reeducation. We're holding everyone back. Now the world is in harmony so let's share a faith and a government.
The anti Christ will be an effeminate man. Marriage will include polyamory, adult/ minor, alien/ human. There will no longer be a Resistor so sin will abound. Thank God for taking all children and innocents.
When I saw this video, it was my " this is real" moment. The enemy is preparing to takeover. He's been prepared in every generation for God to start the clock. He will have unrestrained cruelty on mankind; lovingly made in the image of their common father.
My head is really buzzing right now. UFOs explain EVERYTHING. They can make people get vaxxed because of alien germs. They can quarantine. They can create every day as they go along because this has never happened before. For all we know, Hollywood has already written the story. They sure will support any narrative with affirming books, music, television, fashion, NEWS, culture...
Pray for the Tribulation saints down here because I don't know if we can in heaven. They will still have it better than the apostles.
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Post by mike on Aug 3, 2020 11:18:17 GMT -6
Dear sister I do concur with everything in this as making a sound reasoning for the departure of many. In a pre-Tribulation rapture scenario it explains everything so the masses left (save perhaps many Jews) will accept this and brush it off like it hasnt happened. In fact I'd bet they will riot all the more looking for the belongings of those missing to be pillaged. However I am speculating quite a bit as we arent sure what this would look like should it occur in this way. What I would ask one to consider is - Why now? Why reveal this now and not after the rapture? - Certainly Satan himself knows this explanation will go over by deceiving many but why not reveal the actual "ET's" when it happens?
- What about the rapture being mid-Trib or pre-Wrath? How do we (Christians) reconcile the distinct possibility of a rapture that doesnt occur pre? and how does this UFO/ET lie fit into this view? Will it be similar to the pre?
- Perhaps the rapture is at the second coming (or maybe a few minutes/short time before) then what is the purpose of this now?
Like many I hope to be rescued from this world as it continues to decline from the Creator in every way possible. But I also continue to remind myself that none of us know when and frankly neither does the enemy of our souls. I now firmly believe that since the devil is not in the know of the timing of the rapture and second coming he has confused many into the various time frame possibilities, myself included. I also firmly believe that we are experiencing either the great delusion or another pre-cursor (if you will) to the coming delusion. Further I think that the current delusion will continue and become (part of) the powerful delusion. 1Thes 2 helps us understand this delusion in better perspective. My purpose in responding is not to convince anyone of a tribulation view, but cause to consider all variables. There is much Berean debate about 1Thes 2 and Matt 24 which wont likely be resolved until these things actually happen. In a pre-Trib rapture none of the verses above really matter to those who are raptured but they will to those who have eyes opened after that moment. God is certainly prepared and great enough to help those who would then convert/repent and immediately realize what they missed teaching them what they will need to do and not do. In the mid & pre-W views (my opinion of course) this UFO explanation may make better sense as this all powerful sign and wonder maker removes Christians himself proclaiming to be god, ending the middle east struggles etc. |
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Post by bernie on Aug 3, 2020 13:27:55 GMT -6
I believe that if Aliens & UFOs do exist they're demonic. I like L.A. Marzulli's theory; "when we go up, they show up." I'm not 100% on this, but consider it a very good theory. They'll have an explanation for the great disappearance, and answers for a lot of things those left behind will be asking. Where did the human race come from -- the earth was seeded with human life by their galaxy millions of years ago. Which would also makes them our creators/progenitors. The New Age folks, spiritualists, pagans and others will love this, because it already fits some of their beliefs. The Antichrist and the false prophet would be able to say that's where their powers/miracle comes from, and everyone will one day have special powers and insights like them, if we submit. It could also fit the Abomination of Desolation, when the Antichrist decides it's time to reveal the truth about who he is really... god. I think the enemy knows we're close to the Rapture, and that's why he's disclosing more and more UFO info. As L.A also says, the full revelation may come some morning after the Rapture, when giant crafts appear over all the worlds major cities. It all speculation of course, but it does seem like it would fit well. They may even have the cure for the virus, (maybe they started it.)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 15:32:08 GMT -6
Honestly, we don't even have to go as far as "aliens". I was raised New Age with a myriad of Ascended Masters, of which Christ was just one. They have all the answers to our problems, as they watch us and patiently wait for us to figure it out.
That's why it's billed as an awakening. It has to come externally because our brightest geniuses (Gates, Musk, etc.) have opposition. There needs to be revelation so above what we can do that we are impressed.
Perhaps these masters will see the absolute chaos that these trouble making, intolerant, hateful, slave owning, gay hating, conservatives are causing against the "woke" people, and help them along by removing them for gentle re-education. Except we will never return.
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Post by disciple4life on Aug 5, 2020 17:25:40 GMT -6
Dear sister I do concur with everything in this as making a sound reasoning for the departure of many. In a pre-Tribulation rapture scenario it explains everything so the masses left (save perhaps many Jews) will accept this and brush it off like it hasnt happened. In fact I'd bet they will riot all the more looking for the belongings of those missing to be pillaged. However I am speculating quite a bit as we arent sure what this would look like should it occur in this way. What I would ask one to consider is - Why now? Why reveal this now and not after the rapture? - Certainly Satan himself knows this explanation will go over by deceiving many but why not reveal the actual "ET's" when it happens?
- What about the rapture being mid-Trib or pre-Wrath? How do we (Christians) reconcile the distinct possibility of a rapture that doesnt occur pre? and how does this UFO/ET lie fit into this view? Will it be similar to the pre?
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- In the mid & pre-W views (my opinion of course) this UFO explanation may make better sense as this all powerful sign and wonder maker removes Christians himself proclaiming to be god, ending the middle east struggles etc.
Hello mike, boymaker, others, I agree 100% that aliens, UFO's will be a huge and central part of the narrative, and also agree that this will further "define the need" for vaccine. The government will use fear and lies [ Just exactly like the fake news, cooked numbers, hysteria, and false information about the current plannedemic Covid 19. It seems Mike, that at the end of this above post, you are explaining how aliens/ UFO's fits ("may make better sense in the mid or pre-wrath rapture scenario" ) than with the pre-tribulation rapture version. Can you elaborate.? I didn't seem to connect the dots, and in fact, i can't see how it works at all in a mid-tribulation rapture or any other scenario. As far as the timing, "why now, before the rapture, rather than waiting to disclose these government cases after 30 million people all go missing in the blink of an eye. I'm not dogmatic, but i think it further strengthens the argument for how and why it totally fits a pre-trib scenario. Many people will be skeptical of this explanation, but won't be able to dispute the 50 or so million people missing and no doubt, everyone will know someone - whether their crazy aunt Clara, or their compassionate neighbor, or a teacher in the kid's pre-school, or their dental hygienist, etc. Furthermore, as the mass hysteria goes viral around the globe and social media melts down, no one - no president, governor, or prime minister will have any "rational" explanation, and the world leaders will have to come up with a unified story, and we all know it won't be the "rapture happened, just like your grandma told you." When the world is reeling with sheer panic and terror with all the babies missing, - the goverment will then have multiple interviews, video clips, and articles along with all manner of unidentified physical evidence to bolster the claims. "we have been releasing these sightings to the general public for years now, and to confirm what we've been saying, here is footage from 20 years and 500 airline pilots, scientists, doctors, policemen, and countless air force members, and "formerly classified" briefings from military commanders of encounters with aliens from Iraq and Kuwait to Viet Nam and the Nato Base in Poland. These photos, interviews and video clips were classified, because we they were being studied and investigated by our top NASA scientists, along with the department of Homeland Security commanders, and we didn't want to create mass panic in the public."  This will make the outlandish claim far more palatable than revealing it after the fact - also, the anger and outrage will be staggering, but much less, when they can say - "Look, we've been unsealing these sightings for 15 months, along with the governments and intelligence agencies of UK, Canada, Denmark, Sweden, Germany, Mexico, and Australia.  Disciple4life |
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Post by mike on Aug 5, 2020 19:28:39 GMT -6
D4L what my point was or is regarding UFO is consider it not only as a pre-T event but someplace during.
As you note, world leaders will look for an explanation of missing people but what about the dead rising? We dont know for sure how that looks but if anything at all happens physically what do you do? I see someone 'alien' tsking center stage and credit performing false signs and wonders (maybe).
I dont think a UFO scenario works with a End Trib/Post view. Seems pointless to me once Jesus sets foot on the Mt of Olives. Could be wrong
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Post by disciple4life on Aug 15, 2020 17:50:04 GMT -6
boymaker , mike , bernie , disciple4life , More official government research, which all goes to reinforce the narrative - All the interviews and articles from different "sources" of the government releasing pics and de-classifying top secret interviews and high ranking Military officers' sightings to bolster the credibility. www.foxnews.com/us/pentagon-unveils-unidentified-aerial-phenomena-task-force I agree Mike, it could very well also be that there are scores of UFO and extra-terrestial sightings and encounters all during the Tribulation. I mean, hey, consider this- when there are 45,000,000 million likes and shares on Instagram and Social Media of two guys in strange clothes breathing fire and won't die - hey, UFO's are totally in the range of normal. When 100 lb hail stones are falling, and ginormous stinging locusts are flying, and people suffer for five months, aliens would seem like mickey mouse.
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Post by mike on Aug 18, 2020 7:45:56 GMT -6
As to respect the content and intent of this thread all following conversation regarding the literal or allegorical interpretation of verses was moved here in the Apologetic section |
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