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Post by whatif on Sept 10, 2021 9:44:22 GMT -6
The third seal is described in Revelation 6:5-6 in this way: "And when the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, “Come!” Then I looked and saw a black horse, and its rider held in his hand a pair of scales. And I heard what sounded like a voice from among the four living creatures, saying, “A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius, and do not waste the oil and wine.” The original word for the "pair of scales" is zygon, which can mean a pair of scales, but also can mean: “A yoke that joins two entities to serve as one” “Servitude” “The beam of a balance” Good morning to my brothers and sisters in Christ! Something to ponder... Daniel 5:25-28 "And this is the writing that was inscribed: MENE, MENE, TEKEL, and PARSIN. This is the interpretation of the matter: MENE, God has numbered the days of your kingdom and brought it to an end; TEKEL, you have been weighed in the balances and found wanting; PERES, your kingdom is divided and given to the Medes and Persians.” I am wondering if this chapter of Daniel might be applicable not only historically to the ancient kingdom of Babylon, but also to the US at this time. Are we Mystery Babylon? Do the scales the rider of the 3rd Seal carries in part represent the Lord's weighing our nation in the balances? Has our "kingdom" been divided and given over to the Medes and Persians? I just have to note that Afghanistan is right in the middle of the land once known as the kingdom of Media-Persia. I also note in Daniel 5:18-23, Daniel speaks to Belshazzar about Nebuchadnezzar in this way: "O king, the Most High God gave Nebuchadnezzar your father kingship and greatness and glory and majesty. And because of the greatness that he gave him, all peoples, nations, and languages trembled and feared before him. Whom he would, he killed, and whom he would, he kept alive; whom he would, he raised up, and whom he would, he humbled. But when his heart was lifted up and his spirit was hardened so that he dealt proudly, he was brought down from his kingly throne, and his glory was taken from him. He was driven from among the children of mankind, and his mind was made like that of a beast, and his dwelling was with the wild donkeys. He was fed grass like an ox, and his body was wet with the dew of heaven, until he knew that the Most High God rules the kingdom of mankind and sets over it whom he will." Has America's past greatness been destroyed by pride? Has our national "mind" been made like that of a beast? And if so, will we soon see the Beast of the Book of Revelation rise... the beast that Nebuchadnezzar foreshadows? |
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Post by mike on Sept 10, 2021 9:56:25 GMT -6
whatif I think you are onto something. With each passing day I am more persuaded that we are watching history repeat itself to the degree that it fulfills or will fulfill what is written.
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Post by whatif on Sept 10, 2021 10:38:32 GMT -6
whatif I think you are onto something. With each passing day I am more persuaded that we are watching history repeat itself to the degree that it fulfills or will fulfill what is written. I agree, Mike! We are so very near the Lord's return, it takes my breath away! |
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Post by whatif on Sept 10, 2021 10:52:49 GMT -6
I theorize that the rider on the black horse is Hermes/Mercury. Here is some information about him: Greek and Roman god of finance, commerce and trade (particularly the grain trade) His festival day was May 15, which is of particular note because it is the date on my speculation calendar for the 4th Seal to be opened. He was the messenger of the gods often depicted holding the caduceus in his left hand. The Caduceus was... a symbol of commerce and negotiation. It is often incorrectly used as a symbol of medical practice, being confused with the Rod of Asclepius. It is said to bring a gentle death to the dying... More thoughts on Hermes/Mercury... If the Caduceus is often incorrectly used as a symbol of medical practice, might we see a connection with what we are experiencing today with a deception that leads us to suppose we are following medically sound advice when it is actually laying the groundwork for Thanatos (bringer of a peaceful/gentle death), the rider of the 4th horse? And as the little-g god of finance, commerce, and trade, is Hermes/Mercury set to shut off finance/commerce/trade to those who don't follow the deception? I note his festival date was the speculative date for the 4th Seal (Thanatos), which makes me wonder if he passed off the baton to the 4th rider on that day. |
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Post by whatif on Sept 10, 2021 10:54:42 GMT -6
Also finding much artwork connecting the caduceus to DNA. This is interesting to me because of current talk about the mark of the beast possibly being something that will change a person’s DNA. If the mark of the beast rises as a remedy to economic disaster, this may have significance with the rider of the black horse of the Third Seal.  Just a reminder about DNA... I'm not sure I need to say more about this one, as I'm suspecting you'll see the current connection. |
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Post by whatif on Oct 18, 2021 7:23:21 GMT -6
I was wondering recently how Jupiter and Saturn fit into things right now. As players in the story, Jupiter is the child, the body of Christ. Saturn is satan. Not long ago there was a close conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn, but if I'm not mistaken, they never quite touched or occulted one over the other. From there Jupiter proceeded to the constellation Aquarius and Saturn proceeded to the constellation Capricorn. As for the story, Satan tried to take the child, but missed as it was taken out of reach. Rev. 12:4-5 the story changes then to Mark 14:13 Luke 22:10, "when you see a man carrying a jar of water, follow him and then say to the owner of the house(note: the man carrying the jar of water is not the owner) the Teacher/Master says...And he will show you a large upper room furnished; prepare it there.” The wedding supper of the Lamb??? And Satan enters Capricorn, a type of beast, " the man of lawlessness— the son of destruction— is revealed." 2 Thess. 2:3 Good morning, stormyknight, and God's blessings to you! I was further contemplating what you posted here about Aquarius and Saturn, the wedding supper of the Lamb and the man of lawlessness, and I took another look at Luke 22. Verses 1 through 14 say: Now the Festival of Unleavened Bread, called the Passover, was approaching, and the chief priests and the teachers of the law were looking for some way to get rid of Jesus, for they were afraid of the people. Then Satan entered Judas, called Iscariot, one of the Twelve. And Judas went to the chief priests and the officers of the temple guard and discussed with them how he might betray Jesus. They were delighted and agreed to give him money. He consented, and watched for an opportunity to hand Jesus over to them when no crowd was present. Then came the day of Unleavened Bread on which the Passover lamb had to be sacrificed. Jesus sent Peter and John, saying, “Go and make preparations for us to eat the Passover.” “Where do you want us to prepare for it?” they asked. He replied, “As you enter the city, a man carrying a jar of water will meet you. Follow him to the house that he enters, and say to the owner of the house, ‘The Teacher asks: Where is the guest room, where I may eat the Passover with my disciples?’ He will show you a large room upstairs, all furnished. Make preparations there.” They left and found things just as Jesus had told them. So they prepared the Passover. When the hour came, Jesus and his apostles reclined at the table. And he said to them, “I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer. For I tell you, I will not eat it again until it finds fulfillment in the kingdom of God.”I notice in this passage that the man carrying the jar of water does fit with how the constellation Aquarius is depicted. Aquarius is often identified with the Greek flood legend of Deucalion, who was warned that Zeus was going to send a great flood. He and his wife alone survived the flood by building a chest, which eventually landed on Mt. Parnassus, and they were said to have repopulated the world. The Bible speaks of the end of the age as being like the days of Noah. It also says something very mysterious... "The end will come like a flood." This is found in Daniel 9:25-27. “Know and understand this: From the time the word goes out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven ‘sevens,’ and sixty-two ‘sevens.’ It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble. After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be put to death and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed. He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him."I also notice that the passage from Luke 22 speaks of Satan entering Judas, who is a type of antiChrist. |
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Post by bondservant on Oct 20, 2021 20:51:07 GMT -6
This thread is amazing! I hope to spend more time comparing it with some stuff I have been working on too. Here is something I did not see mentioned in this thread but if so please forgive me for the redundancy if so. The Hippocratic Oath is an oath of ethics historically taken by physicians. It is one of the most widely known of Greek medical texts. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_OathThe Hippocratic OathI swear by Apollo Healer, by Asclepius, by Hygieia, by Panacea, and by all the gods and goddesses, making them my witnesses, that I will carry out, according to my ability and judgment, this oath and this indenture. To hold my teacher in this art equal to my own parents; to make him partner in my livelihood; when he is in need of money to share mine with him; to consider his family as my own brothers, and to teach them this art, if they want to learn it, without fee or indenture; to impart precept, oral instruction, and all other instruction to my own sons, the sons of my teacher, and to indentured pupils who have taken the Healer’s oath, but to nobody else. I will use those dietary regimens which will benefit my patients according to my greatest ability and judgment, and I will do no harm or injustice to them. Neither will I administer a poison to anybody when asked to do so, nor will I suggest such a course. Similarly I will not give to a woman a pessary to cause abortion. But I will keep pure and holy both my life and my art. I will not use the knife, not even, verily, on sufferers from stone, but I will give place to such as are craftsmen therein. Into whatsoever houses I enter, I will enter to help the sick, and I will abstain from all intentional wrong-doing and harm, especially from abusing the bodies of man or woman, bond or free. And whatsoever I shall see or hear in the course of my profession, as well as outside my profession in my intercourse with men, if it be what should not be published abroad, I will never divulge, holding such things to be holy secrets. Now if I carry out this oath, and break it not, may I gain for ever reputation among all men for my life and for my art; but if I break it and forswear myself, may the opposite befall me. The Hippocratic Oath, in Greek, from the 1923 Loeb edition, and then followed by the English translation: ὄμνυμι Ἀπόλλωνα ἰητρὸν καὶ Ἀσκληπιὸν καὶ Ὑγείαν καὶ Πανάκειαν καὶ θεοὺς πάντας τε καὶ πάσας, ἵστορας ποιεύμενος, ἐπιτελέα ποιήσειν κατὰ δύναμιν καὶ κρίσιν ἐμὴν ὅρκον τόνδε καὶ συγγραφὴν τήνδε: ἡγήσεσθαι μὲν τὸν διδάξαντά με τὴν τέχνην ταύτην ἴσα γενέτῃσιν ἐμοῖς, καὶ βίου κοινώσεσθαι, καὶ χρεῶν χρηΐζοντι μετάδοσιν ποιήσεσθαι, καὶ γένος τὸ ἐξ αὐτοῦ ἀδελφοῖς ἴσον ἐπικρινεῖν ἄρρεσι, καὶ διδάξειν τὴν τέχνην ταύτην, ἢν χρηΐζωσι μανθάνειν, ἄνευ μισθοῦ καὶ συγγραφῆς, παραγγελίης τε καὶ ἀκροήσιος καὶ τῆς λοίπης ἁπάσης μαθήσιος μετάδοσιν ποιήσεσθαι υἱοῖς τε ἐμοῖς καὶ τοῖς τοῦ ἐμὲ διδάξαντος, καὶ μαθητῇσι συγγεγραμμένοις τε καὶ ὡρκισμένοις νόμῳ ἰητρικῷ, ἄλλῳ δὲ οὐδενί. διαιτήμασί τε χρήσομαι ἐπ᾽ ὠφελείῃ καμνόντων κατὰ δύναμιν καὶ κρίσιν ἐμήν, ἐπὶ δηλήσει δὲ καὶ ἀδικίῃ εἴρξειν. οὐ δώσω δὲ οὐδὲ φάρμακον οὐδενὶ αἰτηθεὶς θανάσιμον, οὐδὲ ὑφηγήσομαι συμβουλίην τοιήνδε: ὁμοίως δὲ οὐδὲ γυναικὶ πεσσὸν φθόριον δώσω. ἁγνῶς δὲ καὶ ὁσίως διατηρήσω βίον τὸν ἐμὸν καὶ τέχνην τὴν ἐμήν. οὐ τεμέω δὲ οὐδὲ μὴν λιθιῶντας, ἐκχωρήσω δὲ ἐργάτῃσιν ἀνδράσι πρήξιος τῆσδε. ἐς οἰκίας δὲ ὁκόσας ἂν ἐσίω, ἐσελεύσομαι ἐπ᾽ ὠφελείῃ καμνόντων, ἐκτὸς ἐὼν πάσης ἀδικίης ἑκουσίης καὶ φθορίης, τῆς τε ἄλλης καὶ ἀφροδισίων ἔργων ἐπί τε γυναικείων σωμάτων καὶ ἀνδρῴων, ἐλευθέρων τε καὶ δούλων. ἃ δ᾽ ἂν ἐνθεραπείῃ ἴδω ἢ ἀκούσω, ἢ καὶ ἄνευ θεραπείης κατὰ βίον ἀνθρώπων, ἃ μὴ χρή ποτε ἐκλαλεῖσθαι ἔξω, σιγήσομαι, ἄρρητα ἡγεύμενος εἶναι τὰ τοιαῦτα. ὅρκον μὲν οὖν μοι τόνδε ἐπιτελέα ποιέοντι, καὶ μὴ συγχέοντι, εἴη ἐπαύρασθαι καὶ βίου καὶ τέχνης δοξαζομένῳ παρὰ πᾶσιν ἀνθρώποις ἐς τὸν αἰεὶ χρόνον: παραβαίνοντι δὲ καὶ ἐπιορκέοντι, τἀναντία |
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Post by whatif on Oct 21, 2021 6:51:10 GMT -6
This thread is amazing! I hope to spend more time comparing it with some stuff I have been working on too. Here is something I did not see mentioned in this thread but if so please forgive me for the redundancy if so. The Hippocratic Oath is an oath of ethics historically taken by physicians. It is one of the most widely known of Greek medical texts. Good morning, bondservant, and God bless you! Thank you for this fascinating information! To my recollection, I have never read through that ancient oath before. I will look forward to learning more about your own studies in the coming days! |
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Post by whatif on Nov 4, 2021 12:43:45 GMT -6
Revelation 6:7-8 says, "And when the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, “Come!” Then I looked and saw a pale green horse. Its rider’s name was Death, and Hades followed close behind. And they were given authority over a fourth of the earth, to kill by sword, by famine, by plague, and by the beasts of the earth." So many curious things to ponder these days... The color green... Luciferase is a generic term for the class of oxidative enzymes that produce bioluminescence, and is usually distinguished from a photoprotein. The name was first used by Raphaël Dubois who invented the words luciferin and luciferase, for the substrate and enzyme, respectively. Both words are derived from the Latin word lucifer, meaning "lightbearer", which in turn is derived from the Latin words for "light" (lux) and "to bring or carry" (ferre). Luciferases are widely used in biotechnology, for microscopy and as reporter genes, for many of the same applications as fluorescent proteins. However, unlike fluorescent proteins, luciferases do not require an external light source, but do require addition of luciferin, the consumable substrate. (Source: "Luciferase," Wikipedia, 04 November 2021, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luciferase)Banks, insurers and investors with $130 trillion at their disposal pledged on Wednesday to put combatting climate change at the centre of their work, and gained support in the form of efforts to put green investing on a firmer footing. (Source: Reuters, "COP26 Coalition Worth $130 Trillion Vows to Put Climate at Heart of Finance," U.S. News & World Report, 03 November 2021, www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2021-11-03/as-politicians-exit-cop26-130tn-worth-of-financiers-take-the-stage)The name of Death... Facebook’s announcement on Thursday that the company would henceforth be called Meta was widely ridiculed on social media. But in Israel, the renaming caused quite a stir, as the new company name is similar to the Hebrew word for “dead.” “In Hebrew, *Meta* means *Dead*,” tweeted Nirit Weiss-Blatt, a tech expert, in response to the company’s announcement. “The Jewish community will ridicule this name for years to come,” she added. (Source: TIO Staff & Agencies, "Facebook’s new Meta handle means ‘dead’ in Hebrew," The Times of Israel, 04 November 2021, www.timesofisrael.com/facebooks-new-meta-handle-means-dead-in-hebrew/)Types and Images of the Beast from the Sea... The Lernaean Hydra or Hydra of Lerna (Greek: Λερναῖα Ὕδρα, Lernaîa Hýdra), more often known simply as the Hydra, is a serpentine water monster in Greek and Roman mythology. Its lair was the lake of Lerna in the Argolid, which was also the site of the myth of the Danaïdes. Lerna was reputed to be an entrance to the Underworld... It had poisonous breath and blood so virulent that even its scent was deadly. The Hydra possessed many heads, the exact number of which varies according to the source. (Source: "Lernaean Hydra," Wikipedia, 21 October 2021, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lernaean_Hydra)The transhumanist dystopian nightmare we find ourselves in took a new turn with the shocking discovery of Hydra Vulgaris and PARASITES in the so-called Covid-19 “vaccines”. Dr. Carrie Madej revealed her Hydra findings on the Stew Peter’s Show on September 29th, 2021, followed by Dr. Zandre Botha’s stunning discovery of microscopic, self-assembling medical devices in the blood of her vaxxed patients. The red blood cells are dangerously deformed and coagulated, things she says she’s never seen before in her 15 years as a blood doctor. (Source: Dr. Ariyana Love, "What’s In the Vaxx? Transgenic Hydra And Parasite Implants Used As Rapid Human Cloning Weapons System," Red Voice Media, 31 October 2021, www.redvoicemedia.com/2021/10/transgenic-hydra-and-parasite-implants-used-as-rapid-human-cloning-weapons-system/)Curious... |
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Post by whatif on Nov 4, 2021 12:48:04 GMT -6
Forgot this one... H. vulgaris is often used, like many hydra, as a model organism for morphallactic regeneration because they are easy to care for, requiring minimal direct care, and reproduce relatively quickly. It is reported that they do not undergo senescence, making them biologically immortal although this has been disputed. (Source: "Hydra Vulgaris," Wikipedia, 02 November 2021, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydra_vulgaris) |
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Post by whatif on Nov 17, 2021 9:32:50 GMT -6
Another connection to scales for Seal 3... Justice? Notice images of Justitia show this pagan goddess wearing a laurel crown, carrying a sword, and also carrying scales... just like all three riders riding at once...
In Greek and Roman mythology, Justitia (also known as Dike) was considered to be the goddess of human justice, which involved settling legal matters in the courts, executing the law, sentencing the guilty to punishment. There was also a Greek goddess by the name of Themis. She was considered to be the goddess of divine justice, which involved keeping social and family order and settling matters of proper behavior among "civilized" society. It is curious to me that we are witnessing at this very time matters of great concern in the courts. One of these matters in particular, that regarding OSHA's workplace mandate, has the potential to plunge the US economy into a deeper chaos through the loss of a mass number of people who are currently employed but prepared to stand against the mandate. The symbolism of the scales, be it the scales of justice or those used to weigh out grain for a day's wage, seems to be in the forefront of our news today. Would it be any surprise, then, that we learn of a new device called Themis? "Zinah Issa, the innovator behind Themis, recently debuted the device at Dubai Design Week and explained that she named the system after Themis — the Greek goddess of social order and justice... Some people are testing the device in classrooms and universities, as well as in more intimate, home-based situations... The device is... intended to 'moderate' unsavory or possibly offending discussion in classrooms and universities in order to 'manifest political correctness' around conversation. Issa told the Telegraph that such things as racial terms, offensive jokes, and remarks about body image trigger the device, which emits 'extremely bothersome alarms' that last approximately two minutes. 'Through the use of speech recognition and sound sensors, we were able to program Themis to detect offensive terms and sentences...'" (Source: Sarah Taylor, "Blaring automatic 'trigger warning' siren used in classrooms and universities sounds alarm when it detects 'offensive' language," Blaze Media, 15 November 2021. www.theblaze.com/news/blaring-trigger-warning-siren-for-classrooms-universities-and-more-sounds-alarm-when-it-detects-offensive-language) |
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Post by inaweofhim on Nov 17, 2021 11:33:18 GMT -6
whatif!! we now have the "speech police?!" I know I should not be shocked at continuing revelations of increasing evil and darkness in our world, but this just jolted me. What more can the darkside produce? I am sure I will find out son enough.
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Post by whatif on Nov 17, 2021 11:46:49 GMT -6
Good morning and God bless you, inaweofhim! Yes, this news astounded me, too. I wonder if it's programmed yet to listen for talk about Jesus. If so, I pray we brothers and sisters in Christ will be setting alarms off everywhere we go.
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Post by stormyknight on Nov 17, 2021 13:04:39 GMT -6
Good morning and God bless you, inaweofhim! Yes, this news astounded me, too. I wonder if it's programmed yet to listen for talk about Jesus. If so, I pray we brothers and sisters in Christ will be setting alarms off everywhere we go. FWIW, Alexa already delivers some odd behavior and responses to questions about our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I'd be willing to bet this device has already been programmed the same way or worse and will just need the push of a button from those in control to start "weeding out" the Christians. |
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Post by whatif on Nov 17, 2021 20:28:27 GMT -6
I wouldn't be surprised, stormyknight! God bless you!
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