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Post by socalexile on Jun 8, 2020 22:25:51 GMT -6
If you're not aware, Thomas Sowell is one of the biggest ideological influences for small government conservatism in the last 40 years. Rush Limbaugh lists him as one of his major philosophical influences.
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Post by yardstick on Jun 9, 2020 4:02:46 GMT -6
If you're not aware, Thomas Sowell is one of the biggest ideological influences for small government conservatism in the last 40 years. Rush Limbaugh lists him as one of his major philosophical influences. I have never heard of him before. The fact that he draws all of his observations from data collected during the research he (and his grad students) did, rather than making bald unsupported statements is not something I have seen before. I have a copy of the audio book "The Law" by Frederick Bastiat (1849), which is one of the best '50,000 foot' views of how government should work, IMHO. |
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Post by socalexile on Jun 9, 2020 5:30:41 GMT -6
I've heard this stuff happening for other people: Attachments:
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Post by socalexile on Jun 9, 2020 5:33:45 GMT -6
If you're not aware, Thomas Sowell is one of the biggest ideological influences for small government conservatism in the last 40 years. Rush Limbaugh lists him as one of his major philosophical influences. I have never heard of him before. The fact that he draws all of his observations from data collected during the research he (and his grad students) did, rather than making bald unsupported statements is not something I have seen before. I have a copy of the audio book "The Law" by Frederick Bastiat (1849), which is one of the best '50,000 foot' views of how government should work, IMHO. Sowell wrote a book called 'Basic Economics: A Citizen's Guide to the Economy' years ago that was very influential. He has a lot of books on modern cultural and political issues and also writes some pretty detailed books on historical cultures. |
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Jun 9, 2020 6:11:35 GMT -6
I tried to read Sowell's book. Vision of the Annointed, three times. I didn't have a high enough intellect nor vocabulary to keep up his points. And, too, it was written in the 80's, I believe, and was warning about what has now become a Deep State.
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Post by socalexile on Jun 9, 2020 8:07:16 GMT -6
The vision of the Anointed basically talks about what ended up being woke culture that Tim Poole is talking about.
“What does the vision offer that reality does not offer? What a vision may offer, and what the prevailing vision of our time emphatically does offer, is a special state of grace for those who believe in it. Those who accept this vision are deemed to be not merely factually correct but morally on a higher plane. Put differently, those who disagree with the prevailing vision are seen as being not merely in error, but in sin. For those who have this vision of the world, the anointed and the benighted do not argue on the same moral plane or play by the same cold rules of logic and evidence.”
― Thomas Sowell, The Vision of the Anointed: Self-congratulation as a Basis for Social Policy
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Post by mike on Jun 9, 2020 8:41:44 GMT -6
socalexile quoted from book: Is this not what we are seeing today? I think so - there is no possible way to debate points when those you may be debating change the rules of the debate to fit their view. Facts, evidence, proof have little to no merit.
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Post by socalexile on Jun 9, 2020 11:22:36 GMT -6
socalexile quoted from book: Is this not what we are seeing today? I think so - there is no possible way to debate points when those you may be debating change the rules of the debate to fit their view. Facts, evidence, proof have little to no merit. Poole talked about "morality policing" today that is exactly that: |
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Post by yardstick on Jun 9, 2020 11:31:32 GMT -6
I've heard this stuff happening for other people: Wow. Time to get a new job. |
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Post by yardstick on Jun 9, 2020 12:15:58 GMT -6
The vision of the Anointed basically talks about what ended up being woke culture that Tim Poole is talking about. “What does the vision offer that reality does not offer? What a vision may offer, and what the prevailing vision of our time emphatically does offer, is a special state of grace for those who believe in it. Those who accept this vision are deemed to be not merely factually correct but morally on a higher plane. Put differently, those who disagree with the prevailing vision are seen as being not merely in error, but in sin. For those who have this vision of the world, the anointed and the benighted do not argue on the same moral plane or play by the same cold rules of logic and evidence.” ― Thomas Sowell, The Vision of the Anointed: Self-congratulation as a Basis for Social Policy Sounds like a religion to me... |
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Post by yardstick on Jun 9, 2020 12:17:18 GMT -6
socalexile quoted from book: Is this not what we are seeing today? I think so - there is no possible way to debate points when those you may be debating change the rules of the debate to fit their view. Facts, evidence, proof have little to no merit. I have found that the most effective way to argue is to ask pointed questions that back them into a corner... at that point it becomes painfully obvious what is going on. |
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Post by mike on Jun 9, 2020 12:21:05 GMT -6
At which point yardstick I would normally discontinue the discussion as it will simply be circular |
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Post by yardstick on Jun 9, 2020 12:27:30 GMT -6
At which point yardstick I would normally discontinue the discussion as it will simply be circular Yes, once it is painfully obvious (to the observers), there is no need to continue the discussion |
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Post by mike on Jun 9, 2020 12:31:05 GMT -6
Just had a short dialogue with my wife about the hypocrite NJ governor who demands social distancing, but marches in protests shoulder to shoulder. You cant argue with that as those like Murphy do not want to see truth rather only see what fits their selfish narrative. COME LORD!!
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Post by socalexile on Jun 9, 2020 12:37:08 GMT -6
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