And thus being one of the fulfillments of a prophecy uttered by God Himself 6000 years or more ago; Genesis 3:15. That prophecy has at least three fulfillments: at the cross, at the Rapture, and at the Great White Throne.
I looked up Genesis 3:15 on Matthew Henry's commentary and found an interesting note of Rev. 12 and ends with Romans 16!!! Now that's understanding way back there! he says....
A perpetual quarrel is here commenced between the kingdom of God and the kingdom of the devil among men; war is proclaimed between the seed of the woman and the seed of the serpent. That war in heaven between Michael and the dragon began now, Rev. 12:7 . It is the fruit of this enmity, (1.) That there is a continual conflict between grace and corruption in the hearts of God’s people. Satan, by their corruptions, assaults them, buffets them, sifts them, and seeks to devour them; they, by the exercise of their graces, resist him, wrestle with him, quench his fiery darts, force him to flee from them. Heaven and hell can never be reconciled, nor light and darkness; no more can Satan and a sanctified soul, for these are contrary the one to the other. (2.) That there is likewise a continual struggle between the wicked and the godly in this world. Those that love God account those their enemies that hate him, Ps. 139:21, Ps. 139:22 . And all the rage and malice of persecutors against the people of God are the fruit of this enmity, which will continue while there is a godly man on this side heaven, and a wicked man on this side hell. Marvel not therefore if the world hate you, 1 Jn. 3:13 .3. A gracious promise is here made of Christ, as the deliverer of fallen man from the power of Satan. Though what was said was addressed to the serpent, yet it was said in the hearing of our first parents, who, doubtless, took the hints of grace here given them, and saw a door of hope opened to them, else the following sentence upon themselves would have overwhelmed them. Here was the dawning of the gospel day. No sooner was the wound given than the remedy was provided and revealed. Here, in the head of the book, as the word is (Heb. 10:7 ), in the beginning of the Bible, it is written of Christ, that he should do the will of God. By faith in this promise, we have reason to think, our first parents, and the patriarchs before the flood, were justified and saved and to this promise, and the benefit of it, instantly serving God day and night, they hoped to come. Notice is here given them of three things concerning Christ:—(1.) His incarnation, that he should be the seed of the woman, the seed of that woman; therefore his genealogy (Lu. 3, ) goes so high as to show him to be the son of Adam, but God does the woman the honour to call him rather her seed, because she it was whom the devil had beguiled, and on whom Adam had laid the blame; herein God magnifies his grace, in that, though the woman was first in the transgression, yet she shall be saved by child-bearing (as some read it), that is, by the promised seed who shall descend from her, 1 Tim. 2:15 . He was likewise to be the seed of a woman only, of a virgin, that he might not be tainted with the corruption of our nature; he was sent forth, made of a woman (Gal. 4:4 ), that this promise might be fulfilled. It is a great encouragement to sinners that their Saviour is the seed of the woman, bone of our bone, Heb. 2:11, Heb. 2:14 . Man is therefore sinful and unclean, because he is born of a woman (Job. 25:4 ), and therefore his days are full of trouble, Job. 14:1 . But the seed of the woman was made sin and a curse for us, so saving us from both. (2.) His sufferings and death, pointed at in Satan’s bruising his heel, that is, his human nature. Satan tempted Christ in the wilderness, to draw him into sin; and some think it was Satan that terrified Christ in his agony, to drive him to despair. It was the devil that put it into the heart of Judas to betray Christ, of Peter to deny him, of the chief priests to prosecute him, of the false witnesses to accuse him, and of Pilate to condemn him, aiming in all this, by destroying the Saviour, to ruin the salvation; but, on the contrary, it was by death that Christ destroyed him that had the power of death, Heb. 2:14 . Christ’s heel was bruised when his feet were pierced and nailed to the cross, and Christ’s sufferings are continued in the sufferings of the saints for his name. The devil tempts them, casts them into prison, persecutes and slays them, and so bruises the heel of Christ, who is afflicted in their afflictions. But, while the heel is bruised on earth, it is well that the head is safe in heaven. (3.) His victory over Satan thereby. Satan had now trampled upon the woman, and insulted over her; but the seed of the woman should be raised up in the fulness of time to avenge her quarrel, and to trample upon him, to spoil him, to lead him captive, and to triumph over him, Col. 2:15 . He shall bruise his head, that is, he shall destroy all his politics and all his powers, and give a total overthrow to his kingdom and interest. Christ baffled Satan’s temptations, rescued souls out of his hands, cast him out of the bodies of people, dispossessed the strong man armed, and divided his spoil: by his death, he gave a fatal and incurable blow to the devil’s kingdom, a wound to the head of this beast, that can never be healed. As his gospel gets ground, Satan falls (Lu. 10:18 ) and is bound, Rev. 20:2 . By his grace, he treads Satan under his people’s feet (Rom. 16:20 ) and will shortly cast him into the lake of fire, Rev. 20:10 . And the devil’s perpetual overthrow will be the complete and everlasting joy and glory of the chosen remnant.
An interesting question, Ken the Aussie Believer! I'm so glad you've pointed this out, as I've not noticed this particular aspect of the verse before despite reading the book of Romans frequently. The verse is indeed interesting, as it says "under your feet," indicating the Church. My speculation is it might just have to do with the rapture of the Church and the war in heaven that will take place in which Satan is thrown down to Earth. As we go up to the throne room of God, Satan is being bruised beneath us in the heavenly war.
Maybe we will all get to 'dog pile' on him before he gets the boot. Sadly, there is no 'tongue-in-cheek' emote...
I just ran across Dr. Steven Pidgeon, who's teachings delve deeply into the Hebrew texts. (I gather he's pre-trib/ salvation by grace alone, etc.) Anyways, he made an interesting point I haven't heard yet regarding the dragon being wroth with the Woman. He suggests it might be that the woman was Mary, and the dragon was wroth with her because she didn't bear a son who was created with xx and HUMAN xy chromosomes. This conception of course brought forth Messiah, which wouldn't have happened if things had happened in the 'usual' manner. (As in, since Eve.) This and other topics, including the incredible importance of these next few months, are discussed here:
Sorry if any of this has already been covered, I only read the last couple of pages in this thread. This is my first post since the days of RITAN and it's good to see some of the old crew still kicking.
I was going to post to the newest article about the eclipses but having phone issues. . I think it was Daniel Matson that counted from the first blood moon to FOT or the 23rd and got 1260 days. We are headed out to site see so I don't have time to look for that info.
Is 26:3 You keep him in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on You, because he trusts in You.
Well, I just watched this, so I am certain that I am way behind the curve on it:
However, unlike the (imho) poor attempt at refutation from the changeover at Koinonia; Paster JD Farag's does a very good job with presenting the Sept 23 position.
I believe he makes the mistake of lumping all variant positions into those held by a few who hold the explicit position that the rapture will occur on 9/23; and so therefore, I believe (in that regard) he is incorrect.
But I have to give him super kudos and great respect for being humble and respectful about cautioning people who hold the Sept 23 position.
THANK YOU Pastor JD
For giving the benefit of the doubt.
For advising caution, instead of unilaterally and unctuously dismissing every portion of the position as flim-flammery!
For (presumably) doing your own homework to ensure you are communicating the position adequately (lacking only the new information discovered since January 2017).
I am incredibly impressed, and I do not impress easily.
I was already impressed with one of your sermons that I clicked on from this board (or the replies in the blog) and I will be taking the time to watch ALL of your videos now.
Maybe this has already been posted but the date of "conception" for the Rev 12 Sign Is December 23, 2016 - The Date the United Nations Resolution 2334 against Israeli settlements. It was a unanimous vote against Israel with US abstaining. Next comes the United Nations International Day of Peace on Sept 21, 2017. This years theme for 2017 is “Together for Peace: Respect, Safety and Dignity for All.” Just when they say "Peace & Safety", disaster will come upon them. When the Apostles asked Christ when he will return, he replied that no one knows the day or the hour. Well, ironically, it has been discovered recently that the name for the Feast of Trumpets, i.e. Rose Hashanah has a Hebrew translation that means "No one knows the day or the hour". You can't make this stuff up!
Ok, I am new here but I keep thinking that the number 33 is a big clue. I believe if the sign is indeed a rapture sign, it cannot happen before the rapture. We are told we cannot know the date or hour. I also lean towards thinking the rapture would come in 5777 not 5778 , because 5777 is perfection and grace. I noticed that Sept 9 is the day Jupiter exits the womb. It is the 9th day of the 9th month, both 3x3. There are 99 days from the sign to the end of the year. Thoughts?
Boymaker2: Can we interpret John 17:24 as evidence that Christ wants us to see Him in Heaven, where His glory is on display, as opposed to the amillennial belief that we never inhabit Heaven before the Second Coming?
Mar 4, 2021 18:15:02 GMT -6
bernie: Boymaker2, It may be implied in the verse, because if we don't get be there with Him before the Second Coming, there will be a 1000 year delay in it being fulfilled. I also like the way John MacArthur puts it; if Jesus doesn't come back for us first at...
Mar 4, 2021 19:52:50 GMT -6
bernie: the Rapture, then we would be going to Heaven, just to come right back down for the Millennium. Doesn't make much sense to go up, only to come right back down. Then of course there's also the question of who are all those coming with Him.
Mar 4, 2021 19:57:13 GMT -6
Boymaker2: Bernie: JMac is a bit of a unicorn because he is full on Pre-Trib, Pre-mill. R.C. Sproul, reformed, was a partial preterist and I was surprised that people who take Scripture literally in any other way, would deny the Rapture
Mar 4, 2021 20:50:07 GMT -6
bernie: Boymaker2, I don't know anything about R.C. and very little about John, but I have listened to a number of his messages, mostly the ones on the Rapture. I thought they were very good. The up/down line kind of stuck with me.
Mar 4, 2021 21:35:33 GMT -6
EnochWalked: www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-79310-1 "A facial recognition algorithm was applied to ... images of ... faces. ... Political orientation was correctly classified in 72% of liberal–conservative face pairs". Maybe religion next.
Mar 5, 2021 10:33:40 GMT -6
bernie: EW, that's a strange one, a "superior mirage" why haven't seen those before?
Mar 5, 2021 10:52:07 GMT -6
EnochWalked: Thanks bernie. Perhaps an interesting connection between the two stories is this sentence from the first article: "A similar dialogue played out in Egypt, where Russia is already invested in developing a nuclear power plant."
Mar 5, 2021 10:53:41 GMT -6
EnochWalked: Apparently "superior mirages" require polar conditions, and there don't tend to be many ships in those places, I guess. Wikipedia has a few more examples: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirage#Superior_mirage Maybe this will become more common.
Mar 5, 2021 11:00:07 GMT -6
bernie: EW, that is interesting, that's the first time I've heard anything about a nuclear program in Egypt.
Mar 5, 2021 11:13:26 GMT -6
bernie: EW, soon signs and wonders will become common as well. Matt 24:24, 2 Thes 2:9
Mar 5, 2021 12:24:03 GMT -6