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Post by mike on Feb 10, 2020 6:27:16 GMT -6
Just came across this newly released video by Nelson Walters where he discusses where the Ark could be. Although he mentions Wyatt, he also discusses Barfield and his research quite a bit. Something to consider here as we simply don't know where it is at this time regardless of who says what until its actually unearthed.
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Post by mike on Feb 10, 2020 6:33:18 GMT -6
For the record, I lived in Poland 12 years and studied the language, so this was not meant in any way as a racist or denigrating comment to Polish people or language.
Maranatha
My friend is a Pollock and yes (according to my experience) it takes three to screw in a light-bulb. BORA - I think you were trying to be jovial here but please remember something that perhaps could be funny for some may not be for others. Being an Italian from north Jersey I often make stereotype jokes about myself with friends, but others may not understand the context when unfamiliar and see things like this as offensive especially when they have among the people like D4L. Mike
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Post by boraddict on Feb 10, 2020 8:07:15 GMT -6
My friend is a Pollock and yes (according to my experience) it takes three to screw in a light-bulb. BORA - I think you were trying to be jovial here but please remember something that perhaps could be funny for some may not be for others. Being an Italian from north Jersey I often make stereotype jokes about myself with friends, but others may not understand the context when unfamiliar and see things like this as offensive especially when they have among the people like D4L. Mike Yes you are right about that. My friend is in fact a Polish person and we have been close for years. Yet, for some reason there is an occasional brain freeze and I become the nursing mother. She is the best friend that I have ever had and 70 this year, going blind. Not that that is a Polish thing but it doesn't help.
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Post by disciple4life on Feb 10, 2020 10:21:17 GMT -6
Just came across this newly released video by Nelson Walters where he discusses where the Ark could be. Although he mentions Wyatt, he also discusses Barfield and his research quite a bit. Something to consider here as we simply don't know where it is at this time regardless of who says what until its actually unearthed. Wow, mike, another fantastic video with excellent research by Nelson Walters.
Especially fascinating was the verse he cited towards the end of the video about the anti-Christ controlling the treasure, gold and precious stones.
I also think it's amazing, when we can see how this - the ark of the covenant or Solomon's treasures and the copper scroll is buried on Land that is occupied by the Jordanian Arabs - [the mythical so-called palestinians] and that if the Israelis did go forward and do the dig, any treasure would likely be considered stolen by the international kangaroo court - aka United Nations and anti-Israel mainstream media.
It also sheds a lot of light on why the Israeli government would sit on this, and not attract a lot of attention - until the land can be annexed.
Incredible ! Thanks again, Mike.
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Post by kjs on Mar 20, 2020 18:50:35 GMT -6
joining this discussion very late...
A few years ago, I first came across the claims of Ron Wyatt ...... And for the record there is many, many claims - such as finding Noah's Ark, the location of the crossing of the Red Sea, the split rock where God provided water in Exodus, the location where the Golden Calf was made and destroyed, and of course this claim of locating the Ark of the Covenant.
Many, many of his videos and talks are very convincing and he was a emotional speaker (basically type that could cry on demand) making his presentation very believable. I bought everything that was said (as the saying goes Hook, Line, and Sinker). I made copies of all the videos, passed the videos around, really talked it up. The whole earthquake / crack in the rock down to the Ark allowing blood to flow onto Mercy seat ... Is a very moving story and something that God could assure would happen so very plausible.
Here are a few facts, that I picked up over the years and made me start doubting more and more....
First all the Pictures come from late 1970's early 1980's .... And Ron refused to allow anyone to work on the project when he was not on site.
Ron's many, many "finds" --- does it prove he was a fraud ... No, but should raise some doubts.
Ron got money from several large organizations -- promising exclusive video rights to each one - yet failed to follow through in all such agreements. one such agreement try to work some protection by only supplying the money piecemeal --- as additional video was provided....This group contain the most damning knowledge of the entire Ark story as given by Ron.... Granted, this is hostile witness and someone with an Ax to grind .... But again at least should arise suspicion.
but the biggest doubt raiser came from Ron himself.... In multiple talks he made claims that Israel would in a few years reveal the find. Then finally in one talk Ron made the claim (granted more implied rather then stated) that He Ron, was promised to be around when the Ark was revealed.
Ron passed away in 1998 or 1999.
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Post by neural on Mar 20, 2020 19:30:47 GMT -6
Joe, I don't know that the ark had any inherent power of it's own. It was the presence of God. When Jesus was crucified, the curtain in the temple was torn from top to bottom, exposing the holy of holies, signifying that the law had been fulfilled, as those who believe now have the Holy Spirit within them. Regardless of how the Jewish people treated the Ark and the holy of holies after that point, I think it's safe to say that the power of the ark and the power of that location in the temple was no longer there, because God was no longer there.
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Post by Joe on Mar 29, 2020 14:49:15 GMT -6
Joe , I don't know that the ark had any inherent power of it's own. It was the presence of God. When Jesus was crucified, the curtain in the temple was torn from top to bottom, exposing the holy of holies, signifying that the law had been fulfilled, as those who believe now have the Holy Spirit within them. Regardless of how the Jewish people treated the Ark and the holy of holies after that point, I think it's safe to say that the power of the ark and the power of that location in the temple was no longer there, because God was no longer there. Interesting info and something to think about. I don't know if the Ark will ever be used again or if a new one will be created by the Anti-Christ system. Accepting Jesus Christ is the only way. Hopefully many in this world will figure that out, specially in times like this.
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Post by stormyknight on Mar 30, 2020 7:37:58 GMT -6
I'm curious as I'm not good with the timelines. Is the Temple in Ezekiel's time the same as the one in Jesus' time? If so, wouldn't it be known(then and now) that Ezekiel witnessed the Glory of God leaving the Temple as recorded in Ezekiel 10-11?
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Post by Joe on Mar 30, 2020 9:06:31 GMT -6
Ezekiel was born possibly in 622 BC. He would have seen something happen in the time of the first temple. The destruction thereof in that time period.
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