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Post by sog on Sept 20, 2019 19:51:24 GMT -6
Interesting link with pretty strong opinion that rapture is soon, as in Sept. 2019. What I found more interesting is idea that Jesus’ crucifixion and Resurrection happened in 17 AD and not 33 AD that is the more widely held opinion. it’s down the link past some of the 2019 predictions. Biblical and historical evidence. kbwealth4u.com/rapture.htm |
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Post by venge on Sept 21, 2019 5:34:01 GMT -6
If the rapture doesn’t happen in his 2020 month that he puts forth, can we agree he is not receiving this information from God and is a false prophet?
Only a few months to go to tell...
I’m guessing that we should see the man of sin soon then?
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Post by disciple4life on Sept 21, 2019 7:47:07 GMT -6
Hello SOG, Venge.
It's very easy to see the connection for the September rapture. Feast of Trumpets is Sept 29, and FOT is one of the highest watchtimes of the entire year for multiple Biblical reasons.
It's also a very high alert time because it's the very next Feast in Sequence to be fulfilled, and the 3 Fall Feasts are all inseparably linked to End Times events.
He loses all credibility with the 17 AD theory. No need to see the link. He might as well suggest that the Birth of Christ was 17BC. This date knocks out key rulers and historical events which have been recorded by multiple hostile and non-Christian historians, such as the rule of Caeser Agustus.
I do think it's too much to say he is a false prophet. Lot's of watchmen on here and other places- can be wrong on some detail or opinion, - but I wouldn't say they are a false prophet.
If they claim to hear from God directly or have some unique channel or have received some special revelation or claim to be a prophet, then yes - absolutely.
That's one of biggest red flags, is when people say God told them, or revealed to them in a dream. We all have the revelation of God in the Bible, and anything else, - needs to line up with scripture, and be confirmed by scripture, not someone else, or some bogus connection to numerology, which we see on here from time to time.
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Post by venge on Sept 21, 2019 8:02:42 GMT -6
Hello SOG, Venge.
It's very easy to see the connection for the September rapture. Feast of Trumpets is Sept 29, and FOT is one of the highest watchtimes of the entire year for multiple Biblical reasons.
It's also a very high alert time because it's the very next Feast in Sequence to be fulfilled, and the 3 Fall Feasts are all inseparably linked to End Times events.
He loses all credibility with the 17 AD theory. No need to see the link. He might as well suggest that the Birth of Christ was 17BC. This date knocks out key rulers and historical events which have been recorded by multiple hostile and non-Christian historians, such as the rule of Caeser Agustus.
I do think it's too much to say he is a false prophet. Lot's of watchmen on here and other places- can be wrong on some detail or opinion, - but I wouldn't say they are a false prophet.
If they claim to hear from God directly or have some unique channel or have received some special revelation or claim to be a prophet, then yes - absolutely.
That's one of biggest red flags, is when people say God told them, or revealed to them in a dream. We all have the revelation of God in the Bible, and anything else, - needs to line up with scripture, and be confirmed by scripture, not someone else, or some bogus connection to numerology, which we see on here from time to time.
Maranatha. Well, he does state: Jesus Christ comes back for his church BEFORE the "TRUE" Jewish Year 2019 ENDS! The Tribulation BEGINS after the Summer of 2019? That’s a bold statement. Then he justifies it by using Christ words in Matthew 24. Using Christ words and distorting them to fit ones own inclinations is a false prophet. He is saying, Christ said X, Y and Z and this is the answer! But when Christ did not say, what this guy implies is wrong. Separate from this, did you read his thought on baptism? He states: GET HOLY SPIRIT WATER BAPTISM at a Christian Church! This is needed to seal your faith in Jesus Christ, and provide you with the Holy Spirit to help you! Since when does baptism save? It’s not a mandated requirement nor does it increase faith. Faith and baptism are totally different but this guy assumes otherwise. I don’t agree here. No church can save, no baptism can save. Neither are they mandated. There are definitely good qualities to both of them. My faith was sealed in Jesus when I believed and repented and was born again, not in flesh but newness of spirit. Not baptism |
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Post by kjs on Sept 21, 2019 10:15:12 GMT -6
I can say without a doubt that the 17AD Crucifixion / resurrection "year" is incorrect.
Fact One
Pontius Pilate was the fifth governor of the Roman province of Judaea, serving under Emperor Tiberius from 26/27 to 36/37 CE. He is best known today for being the official who presided over the trial of Jesus and ordered his crucifixion.
Fact Two
Herod Antipater known by the nickname Antipas and is referred to as both "Herod the Tetrarch" and "King Herod" in the New Testament. In 28/29 AD Antipas is rebuked by John the Baptist for marrying the wife of his Half-Brother - Herodias, -- most feel Antipas marriage took place in 27 -- with John's beheading in 29/30 range. (and since Crucifixion occurred after the death of John the Baptist)
Fact Three
Tiberius Claudius Nero reigned 18 September 14 AD – 16 March 37 AD --
Luke 3 tells us " In the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar—when Pontius Pilate was governor of Judea, Herod tetrarch of Galilee, his brother Philip tetrarch of Iturea and Traconitis, and Lysanias tetrarch of Abilene— 2 during the high-priesthood of Annas and Caiaphas, the word of God came to John son of Zechariah in the wilderness. 3 He went into all the country around the Jordan, preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins."
To get to fifteen years of Tiberius Reign -- well just say it is way past 17AD.
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Not trying to be a "smart-Alec" or rain on anyone's beliefs .............
BUT there are certain conditions that must be met -- which includes the primary characters being on the scene ......
Therefore 17AD is NOT correct...............
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Post by boraddict on Sept 21, 2019 11:20:57 GMT -6
Additionally kjs, the Savior was in his 29th year at the beginning of his ministry. So if he was born between 4 BC and 1 AD (a five year span), then the start of his ministry would have been between 25 AD and 30 AD. The following is from: www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/people-cultures-in-the-bible/jesus-historical-jesus/herods-death-jesus-birth-and-a-lunar-eclipse/"Both Luke and Matthew mention Jesus’ birth as occurring during Herod’s reign (Luke 1:5; Matthew 2:1). Josephus relates Herod’s death to a lunar eclipse. This is generally regarded as a reference to a lunar eclipse in 4 B.C. Therefore it is often said that Jesus was born in 4 B.C. But physics professor John A. Cramer, in a letter to BAR, has pointed out that there was another lunar eclipse visible in Judea—in fact, two—in 1 B.C., which would place Herod’s death—and Jesus’ birth—at the turn of the era. Below, read letters published in the Q&C section of BAR debating the dates of Herod’s death, Jesus’ birth and to which lunar eclipse Josephus was referring." Thus, the 17 AD time frame for the crucifixion clearly incorrect. |
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