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Post by bobthewebguy on Jun 26, 2019 17:54:39 GMT -6
Hi guys, I have a lot of catching up on this board to see where you all are in reference to stuff. I did want to touch on Climate Change. IMO, this is the most important issue of the day. It will be the catalyst for most stuff during the tribulation. If you are not green, and most conservatives and Jews and new Christians will probably not be; you will be hunted down. I'm sure the fake aliens (UFO) will use this to explain what happened to the Church. And since the Pope and Macron are the two leading proponents for Climate Change they, the fake UFO people will be all in for them. So GREEN will be the platform for the tribulation. We can clearly see it happening now. Do we agree?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2019 4:56:03 GMT -6
By and large I agree with you bobthewebguy . The so called "man made climate change" is THE TOOL to unite the masses, to unite people across borders, countries and nations. It's sort of religion. And I realized that nearly everyone supports this idea of "climate change". At least here in Europe.
There are a few scientists and (fewer) politicians, standing up against this hype and trying to argue, but their voices are increasingly diminishing.
The social pressure will surely increase to act in a "climate compliant" way, no matter what area you are thinking of. Driving cars, flying, eating...
Sad to see that common sense is virtually no longer existent when "climate" is being discussed. Even in the churches.
Maybe you have heard of the "Fridays for future" gatherings in Europe... These marches or demonstrations are filled with brainwashed young people and actively supported by.....GEORGE SOROS. Mark this name. He is one of the driving powers within the globalist camp and surely a supporter of the coming AC.
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Post by kjs on Jun 27, 2019 6:41:17 GMT -6
Whether one calls it Climate change or Green New Deal or even any other politically charge phrase…. The world’s climate is and has been changing. The oceans and sea levels have been raising inches or more over the past several decades. This is all documented fact; both by technical measurements and photographic evidence.
The cause of the “water rising” is because snow and ice have been melting at the polar regions faster and faster – NONE OF THE FACTS are disputed.
The only dispute going on right now – is IF this is a MAN-MADE phenomenon or simply a process that God has allowed to happen (and for the record – most of those “scientists” who argue against man-made change – are also evolutionist who believe over millions of years the climate warms and cools in cycles).
Yes, many, many conservative Christians have bought into the political crap that the raising seas is just some type of leftist propaganda…. When the fact is there is change going on. I am a firm believer that God is allowing this change to come forth. These raising temperatures’ are also affecting the weather in bizarre ways – including too cold winters, too hot summers and active weather with tornadoes and flooding, more active hurricanes.
So please do not buy into the political crap that these changes are “somehow” not really happening.
Is there something Man Can do about these changes? I would say pray -- to the God who is the creator of the universe.
I just want ALL to be aware -- the "change" is real -- the "cause" may or may not be man-made pollutants.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2019 8:37:05 GMT -6
Whether one calls it Climate change or Green New Deal or even any other politically charge phrase…. The world’s climate is and has been changing. The oceans and sea levels have been raising inches or more over the past several decades. This is all documented fact; both by technical measurements and photographic evidence.
The cause of the “water rising” is because snow and ice have been melting at the polar regions faster and faster – NONE OF THE FACTS are disputed.
The only dispute going on right now – is IF this is a MAN-MADE phenomenon or simply a process that God has allowed to happen (and for the record – most of those “scientists” who argue against man-made change – are also evolutionist who believe over millions of years the climate warms and cools in cycles).
Yes, many, many conservative Christians have bought into the political crap that the raising seas is just some type of leftist propaganda…. When the fact is there is change going on. I am a firm believer that God is allowing this change to come forth. These raising temperatures’ are also affecting the weather in bizarre ways – including too cold winters, too hot summers and active weather with tornadoes and flooding, more active hurricanes.
So please do not buy into the political crap that these changes are “somehow” not really happening.
Is there something Man Can do about these changes? I would say pray -- to the God who is the creator of the universe.
I just want ALL to be aware -- the "change" is real -- the "cause" may or may not be man-made pollutants.
makes me say hm..... and I am pretty sure that the socalled "documented fact" is also in some parts fabricated. Some years ago they labelled it "Global warming"....later on after realizing, that earth does not simply warm up they labelled it "climate change".
If we look at the hurricane statistics (source wikipedia) we don't see a really significant increase in numbers.
Of course climate is changing. It does all the time. over the last 6000 yrs.
But the changes then were way more significant in former times and in IMHO no way comparable to today.
Think of preflood and postflood climate. Or the warm period in the medieval age.
It is only logical, that todays changes are somehow hyped by the globalists in order to support their narrative. I have read lots of literature on this climate thing and seen many videos. Most of the climate change protagonists are anti-godly and evolutionary people. At least here in the EU. The best and most plausible explanations on climate changes I have ever seen were given by serious bible believing scientists.
Just my 0.01 bucks...
The main problem with the "manmade climate change" hype is IMO that it implies, mankind can change weather conditions. This is pure hubris.
BTW: God says in His Word that earth is spared for fire. Maybe some extreme weather events are hinting at....?
This climate thing is nothing to be dogmatic or even divided about in the Body of Christ.
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Post by kjs on Jun 27, 2019 15:08:49 GMT -6
I just want ALL to be aware -- the "change" is real -- the "cause" may or may not be man-made pollutants.
Just my 0.01 bucks...
The main problem with the "manmade climate change" hype is IMO that it implies, mankind can change weather conditions. This is pure hubris.
BTW: God says in His Word that earth is spared for fire. Maybe some extreme weather events are hinting at....?
This climate thing is nothing to be dogmatic or even divided about in the Body of Christ.
But I learned that it may serve as a starter for deeper talks with colleagues or neighbors Let us take an example -- My Sister and her family lived in Montana -- not too far from glacier national park....
I saw with my own eyes -- the amount of glacier loss within the park -- over multiple years...
So I saw "WARMING" removing parts of the Glaciers -- that is FACT -- no spin...
Now I did not proclaim the glaciers would be gone by XX -- even though the national park did.....
Do not remember if it was this website or another --- pointed out the massive blizzards of the past few years -- have rebuilt some of the glaciers (no not back to their glory days)
So I have sea rise with my own eyes, I have seen glacier loss with my own eyes..... So please do not say I am being blinded by "fake news" .... the loss is real, the rise is real ........
I believe God is controlling it (or possibly allowing it).....
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Jun 27, 2019 22:12:49 GMT -6
I live in montana, live outside most of the time because we are dependant upon the environment to feed animals, and this is how we make our living, so I am quite atune to what goes on out there. Seen fires (low humidity, not drought) and severe cold (because there is cold at the poles). We had minus 30 in the middle of Feb this year, the longest January ever, inho, Our neighbor alone lost 30 calves in a week. Our cash flpow went to late hay feeding, could not get on to pastures til end of March. I keep a diary of when I see green grass. Green up did not occur til end of march, even into early april, when back in 2006 it was green at the end of Feb. I also lived in Minnesota when the worst snow event happened in the early 1990's. It is all relative and if you make a living based on the outdoors, you see what is real and what is hype.
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By the way, the glacier park thing has to do with signs that they posted years back predicting glacier extinction by 2020, only to quietly remove signs because the glaciers are not shrinking but are actually gaining ground. Same in Greenland and the polar bears are thriving. We have a peak in front of us that has maintained two snow pack the past 5-6 years where in the early 2000's those pack were GONE.
I really believe we all need to check our pre-conceived ideas of ends time at the door from both the "worthy" eschatologists, and the agnostic environmentalists. BOTH SIDES are in error. So much of Revelation (if that is what we are talking about in re: to the planetary & earthly things described) was viewed from a spiritual vision shown to John representing what God has the most trouble with and that is MAN. Man and his lawlessness (setting idols of his own against or next to, or in addition to God).
I am disagreeing with both elements of this thread. I live it everyday since I was 10, and I am 51 now. What man does affects his ability to survive the swings of weather. What man has done to the rivers affects the floods, but it is not the weather. The internet makes it seem like the world's weather is extreme and changing compared to 20 years ago. Climate changes and has waves and peaks. NOt every hurricane is some sign, not every wind event somewhere is odd. Its because someone was there reporting it finally and people received it on their iPhone.
This topic drives me nuts and takes our attention off of what should be at hand: removing the idols of our hearts!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2019 23:28:39 GMT -6
I live in montana, live outside most of the time because we are dependant upon the environment to feed animals, and this is how we make our living, so I am quite atune to what goes on out there. Seen fires (low humidity, not drought) and severe cold (because there is cold at the poles). We had minus 30 in the middle of Feb this year, the longest January ever, inho, Our neighbor alone lost 30 calves in a week. Our cash flpow went to late hay feeding, could not get on to pastures til end of March. I keep a diary of when I see green grass. Green up did not occur til end of march, even into early april, when back in 2006 it was green at the end of Feb. I also lived in Minnesota when the worst snow event happened in the early 1990's. It is all relative and if you make a living based on the outdoors, you see what is real and what is hype. . By the way, the glacier park thing has to do with signs that they posted years back predicting glacier extinction by 2020, only to quietly remove signs because the glaciers are not shrinking but are actually gaining ground. Same in Greenland and the polar bears are thriving. We have a peak in front of us that has maintained two snow pack the past 5-6 years where in the early 2000's those pack were GONE. I really believe we all need to check our pre-conceived ideas of ends time at the door from both the "worthy" eschatologists, and the agnostic environmentalists. BOTH SIDES are in error. So much of Revelation (if that is what we are talking about in re: to the planetary & earthly things described) was viewed from a spiritual vision shown to John representing what God has the most trouble with and that is MAN. Man and his lawlessness (setting idols of his own against or next to, or in addition to God). I am disagreeing with both elements of this thread. I live it everyday since I was 10, and I am 51 now. What man does affects his ability to survive the swings of weather. What man has done to the rivers affects the floods, but it is not the weather. The internet makes it seem like the world's weather is extreme and changing compared to 20 years ago. Climate changes and has waves and peaks. NOt every hurricane is some sign, not every wind event somewhere is odd. Its because someone was there reporting it finally and people received it on their iPhone.This topic drives me nuts and takes our attention off of what should be at hand: removing the idols of our hearts!
Just for the record: I'm neither a "worthy eschatologist" nor a "agnostic environmentalist"....  I don't fit in any category, no matter what aspect. Neither pre nor post nor mid nor whatsoever.
But back to the topic: what you said in the boldened phrase below reflects my assessment of this climate thing and what I said in my first post in this thread: sort of religion.
What is a religion? Something, man created to get rid of God. This may very well include the use and erection of idols...
And furthermore we see the typical thinking scheme of gradualists/evolutionists: They come to conclusions from observations of very short timespans and extrapolate these observations. They do not take into account environmental conditions some hundreds or thousands yrs ago.
And they do not take into account that catastrophic events like the Flood or sth else may have changed climate conditions in a very short time.
Man lives 70-80 yrs this is but a short time compared to the biblical 6000 yrs. Weather/temperature records exist only since roughly 150 yrs.
And man thinks he knows whats going wrong and how to control it??? Whooaa....
As I said before: pure hubris. Man is playing god. Reminds me of the first lie Adam and Eve were presented by the sssssnake....
Btw, Carbondioxide is cruel for plants to grow and the best fertilizer.
Imagine the preflood CO2 level.
Christian scientists said AFAIR that it was some 100 times higher then. Todays climate nuts would have panicked....
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Jun 28, 2019 6:20:15 GMT -6
my apologies. this sounds directed at the contributers to this thread. There's a large collection of books that has been building in my mother's library of end times, and this was where my generalization came from.. but still, it came off rather passive aggressive, I can see that now, oops.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2019 7:25:39 GMT -6
my apologies. this sounds directed at the contributers to this thread. There's a large collection of books that has been building in my mother's library of end times, and this was where my generalization came from.. but still, it came off rather passive aggressive, I can see that now, oops.
Hi BSG, no problem at all 😉 Just wanted to steer clear from any labels being applied to me.
I know you here at Unsealed since 2017 😀 as a very kindly person...
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Post by venge on Jun 28, 2019 8:32:21 GMT -6
Hi guys, I have a lot of catching up on this board to see where you all are in reference to stuff. I did want to touch on Climate Change. IMO, this is the most important issue of the day. It will be the catalyst for most stuff during the tribulation. If you are not green, and most conservatives and Jews and new Christians will probably not be; you will be hunted down. I'm sure the fake aliens (UFO) will use this to explain what happened to the Church. And since the Pope and Macron are the two leading proponents for Climate Change they, the fake UFO people will be all in for them. So GREEN will be the platform for the tribulation. We can clearly see it happening now. Do we agree? I don’t see it in the Bible. It’s Just smoke and mirrors from the Gentile nations. Christ concerned us with spiritual matters. To me, it’s more evident of the time we live when multiple nations have Gay Pride parades rather then focus on climate change. Morals vs. everything else. We know from a biblical standpoint the earth will always be here. It is his footstool! -smoke and mirrors |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 11:26:08 GMT -6
I recently did some research on the socalled "man made climate change" -- btw, which I am sure as stated before, serves as main tool for the Antichrist to unite mankind -- and the pole shift topic and came up with something very interesting. The reason, I did some further research, was very simple:
I recently was of the impression that the sun did not follow the usual path in this season (summer), it seemed to be more dazzling than I expected at a particular time, and the sun seemed to be not so high in the sky as I thought it should be at a particular time. Well, I know I can't proof this, because I didn't measure the point where the sun rises and sets over the past years... But during my research on the web I found this very interesting video, where Inuit speak of their observations regarding the sun, changes in climate and that.
This also reminded me of the verse in Isaiah 24:20 "The earth reels like a drunkard, it sways like a hut in the wind; so heavy upon it is the guilt of its rebellion that it falls—never to rise again."
Think about it...
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