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Post by fitz on Mar 15, 2019 14:44:07 GMT -6
I just posted something similar on You-Tube where you can find hundreds and hundreds of false teachers dispensing crazy ideas about the end-times. Actually, my response was just to a person who is quite confused about the Day of the Lord, the rapture, the Second Coming and more. So I laid it all out for him, short and sweet. It occurred to me that there may be many who come here and are equally confused about the order of end-time events, so I decided to post this. I think most who frequent this group and participate will agree with this, but I understand there will be a few who do not. So, YMMV. This is a very simplistic and condensed list, so there is a lot of detail to fill in, but maybe this will encourage some to go and discover a deeper understanding. It's all in the word. 1. The church is raptured...this is the next event to happen. 2. The Anti-Christ is revealed. 3. The Tribulation (Day of the Lord) begins and runs for 7 years. 4. Jesus (and the Church with Him) returns to the earth...Armageddon ensues, Jesus quickly defeats His enemies. The Anti-Christ and False Prophet are cast into the lake of fire and Satan is bound in the pit for 1000 years. 5. Jesus sets up His Millennial Kingdom and reigns from Jerusalem for 1000 years. The church and resurrected tribulation saints share in administrating this government, reigning with Him. 6. After the 1000 years is complete, Satan is released from the pit for a short time, but is quickly defeated by Jesus and is cast into the lake of fire. 7. The dead are raised for the Great White Throne judgement. Those who's names are not found in the book of life are cast into the lake of fire, along with death and the grave. 8. Heaven and earth are renovated, New Jerusalem descends from heaven, Jesus hands the Kingdom back to the Father and eternity begins.
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Post by stormyknight on Mar 15, 2019 14:52:49 GMT -6
I agree with that list 100%, fitz .
#8-I am of the mind that from this point on, all will be immortal/imperishable. Does anyone else think this?
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Post by fitz on Mar 15, 2019 14:57:48 GMT -6
Absolutely! No more death! It was cast into the lake of fire!
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Post by Gary on Mar 16, 2019 13:02:02 GMT -6
Great list and synopsis. That's an excellent overview of a literal and plain reading of the text. I might have good use for this!
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Post by kjs on Mar 19, 2019 9:15:02 GMT -6
(ok, just joking around here -- being offensive is not being planned -- just joking around)
The acronym YMMV in your original post -- I believe stands for Your Mileage May Vary ..........
IF that is the case .... I must go -- "HUH?" what does vehicle mileage have to do with varies end-time conceptional thoughts?
I mean I could understand if we were talking racing, or driving, or anything needing fuel to "go miles" -- but thoughts?
How many thoughts does it take to go one mile?
Inquiring minds wish to know.........
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Post by fitz on Mar 19, 2019 9:56:39 GMT -6
LOL kjs ... yea, it's a phrase (abbreviated) I use often. Just a short-hand way of saying "you may not agree with me" or "you may believe something different than I". Nothing car/driving related.
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Post by stormyknight on Mar 19, 2019 11:35:30 GMT -6
How many thoughts does it take to go one mile?
Inquiring minds wish to know......... me thinks that would depend on the thoughts! Deep and swift or shallow and slow.
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Post by boraddict on Mar 19, 2019 12:56:55 GMT -6
How many thoughts does it take to go one mile?
Inquiring minds wish to know......... me thinks that would depend on the thoughts! Deep and swift or shallow and slow. The thought to go one mile is one thought; however, the reconsidering of that one thought as well as the thoughts along the way are innumerable.
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Post by venge on Mar 20, 2019 13:39:53 GMT -6
I would say the order of the events can be different that what has been posted. It is wise to understand all those views and why their held scripturally. Afterwards, you may settle on the doctrine you previously held. Maybe not. 😛
I think a careful study regarding rapture and tribulations would follow exactly what Christ himself said in his own words. That would differ from the views of some here.
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Post by mike on Mar 20, 2019 14:43:25 GMT -6
I would say the order of the events can be different that what has been posted. It is wise to understand all those views and why their held scripturally. Afterwards, you may settle on the doctrine you previously held. Maybe not. 😛 I think a careful study regarding rapture and tribulations would follow exactly what Christ himself said in his own words. That would differ from the views of some here. Venge many here carefully study, in fact very carefully. Dialogue is wonderful, but posting that others aren't following what Christ said because they are not studying carefully makes you sound as if you hold the single and correct viewpoint. Please keep Rule 3 in mind when responding to others views that don't align with yours.
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Post by venge on Mar 20, 2019 17:31:20 GMT -6
I would say the order of the events can be different that what has been posted. It is wise to understand all those views and why their held scripturally. Afterwards, you may settle on the doctrine you previously held. Maybe not. 😛 I think a careful study regarding rapture and tribulations would follow exactly what Christ himself said in his own words. That would differ from the views of some here. Venge many here carefully study, in fact very carefully. Dialogue is wonderful, but posting that others aren't following what Christ said because they are not studying carefully makes you sound as if you hold the single and correct viewpoint. Pease keep Rule 3 in mind when responding to others views that don't align with yours. Mike, I did not say anyone specifically. I said: We have many people post on the rapture over the years..Yes? And in that group, some study, some don't. Some have questions, others help those with those questions. To follow up on the second part of your comment, I did not say I had a correct view. I said that Christ himself held the correct view. We, that is all of us, should follow his words 100%. Now, I did not put my view out there. I did not paint a picture for it. As I stated prior, there are many views. It is good to view them and where the scripture backbone for them comes from to see what is right and wrong. Do you agree? Now, Fitz posted the following: That is one possibility. But not the ONLY possibility. Do you agree? And that is why I said, I think a careful study regarding rapture and tribulations would follow exactly what Christ himself said in his own words. That would differ from the views of some here.The "here" being the forums and all who visit them and all the different doctrines of tribulation out there. Now let us talk about Rule 3 I did not invalidate his or anyones thoughts. I said we should be more OPEN to reading OTHERS ideas and not just held to 1 view. We should be focusing on what Christ said. I did not use anger, malice, wrath..etc I did not use corrupted speech. I spoke to build up saying we should look at all aspects to understand what Christ wanted. There are other views Now my favorite part. I did that. So why would I break rule 3?
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Post by mike on Mar 24, 2019 12:41:50 GMT -6
Venge - apologies! I read between the lines on your post inserting my own thoughts and came out not thinking the best of you rather believed the lie that you were violating a rule here and/or talking down to others. I am sorry for that brother.
John 13:35 by this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
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