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Post by ranger007 on Apr 9, 2019 8:02:33 GMT -6
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Post by Natalie on Apr 9, 2019 10:28:51 GMT -6
We are glad that you want to edify others, spread the gospel, and teach the Word, however, we have asked that you post your blog content in your post for discussion. Right now the moderators feel that we must moderate both the Unsealed board and your blog. None of us want that. If you are not going to post your content and find the time to discuss any questions here, then we will feel that this thread will need to be closed.
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Post by ranger007 on Apr 9, 2019 11:59:59 GMT -6
We are glad that you want to edify others, spread the gospel, and teach the Word, however, we have asked that you post your blog content in your post for discussion. Right now the moderators feel that we must moderate both the Unsealed board and your blog. None of us want that. If you are not going to post your content and find the time to discuss any questions here, then we will feel that this thread will need to be closed. That is truly sad, as many from this group are enjoying my Blog. It appears that the moderators, do not share our belief system, and assume I am pushing false teachers, (In their opinion). Just because denominational beliefs, differ here, does not mean that things that are not understood should be deemed false. I never said I would not openly discuss any subject you like, even something off topic. It feels like you guys are not even reading my responses. I have made myself very clear, that I am having to defend myself on a daily basis, this is not discussion, but harassment! I have complied to all of your requests, to link my blog posts directly to this thread. I thought higher of this site, than to be treated as such, for trying to teach and edify the Body. It is a sad day when so called Christians, disagree with Mighty Moves of God, because it does not jive with their Theology. As I have repeatedly said: If I am not wanted here, I would go gracefully. No need to shut me down, but it is certainly within your power to do so. Please reconsider your actions, and PRAY if this is the correct course to take  . CHRIS |
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Post by Natalie on Apr 9, 2019 12:37:22 GMT -6
I do not think you are "pushing false teachers" but was only trying to bring to your attention that Hagin has somethings that he has taught that go greatly against Scripture. I can post them if you would like.
Many denominations are represented here; that is not the main issue. Some of us wanted clarification on how "Holy Laughter" is biblical.
As a mod I feel that I am responsible for helping to monitor the content here. By just posting links, I feel I have to go offsite to monitor your blog also. I don't want to do that. You have repeatedly ignored the request to post the content. We are not singling you out, as we have had to have this discussion before on what to do with personal blogs.
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Post by davewatchman on Apr 9, 2019 17:29:19 GMT -6
Ranger I can say that I have been in the presence of what is being called holy laughter. In a response today you quoted that a merry heart does good like a medicine and provided medical data to support this. I have a merry heart but not because I'm laughing all the time or uncontrollably. My merry heart is because I recognize my debt to God was paid for me, by His own Son. What a great Lord we have! The word for merry sameach is grateful, joyful, rejoice but not laughter. Sechoq is laughter, derision, sport. Ecc 2:2 i said of laughter, It is mad: and of mirth, What doeth it?
Ecc 7:3 Sorrow is better than laughter, for by the sadness of the countenance the heart is made better.
Prov 14:13 Even in laughter is the heart pained, And the latter end of joy is affliction.
Gen 21:6 Then Sarah said, "God has made me laugh, and everyone who hears of this will laugh with me."Verses like these and others seem to indicate a contradiction about laughter. We know that this cannot be as the Word is harmonious. Could you point me to other verses supporting holy laughter that remove this contradiction? Or similar very that would support the laughter shown in the video posted displays or how you explain it? I had a bit a of a laughing fit on my way to work the other day. It was truly hilarious and it was the Holy Spirit reminding me of who I once was immediately after being judgmental towards someone. It went something like "I can't remember a time when I acted that way Lord" and BAM! there it was and I started laughing at myself because I was acting like a fool with my words. I believe He got a chuckle out of me at that moment too. It was a good moment In response to your question, Mike. You say you have been in the "Presence" of Holy Laughter, but maybe not a participant, is that correct? Observing can give wrong impressions from the start. Here we go again with my daily explanation. No one said you have to laugh all the time or "Uncontrollability." If you had read my personal account I gave to Yardstick, you would not have made those comments. You also quoted other scriptures that I did not, and tried to tie them to my statements. That is why you have the contradiction. I have explained to you in depth, and you still have your opinion. Then you end up mocking, and yes you are acting like a fool with your words, because you are being judgmental. To try and explain some moves of God, or give scripture to PROVE what God decides to do, is not always available. We don't understand sometimes why God chooses to operate the way He does. In all honesty Chris, i don't think Mike deserves this approach. He has always been fair and patient with everyone that I've ever seen, including you.. I've seen him deal with the Dennis' and the Rants and the Dents and even the Dave's of this world. Even i have probably tested the waters from time to time. Mike has always been a gentleman. He lets his reasonableness be known to ALL men, for the Lord is at hand. And it's an interesting thread that has you comeback as if nothing happened??? What have we learned in this lesson??? " But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty; 28) and the base things of the world and the things which are despised God has chosen, and the things which are not, to bring to nothing the things that are, 29) that no flesh should glory in His presence. 30) But of Him you are in Christ Jesus, who became for us wisdom from God—and righteousness and sanctification and redemption— 31) that, as it is written, “He who glories, let him glory in the Lord.” (1 Corinthians 1:27-31 NKJV). To think we must dissect every word I say intellectually, is disingenuous. I hope this helps clarify your questions. And about this "holy laughter" business. I don't think this "holy laughter" is the foolish thing that puts shame to the wise. Are you kidding me? HELLO? And i'm a joker, i love a good laugh. I actually never heard of the holy laughter before Yardstick posted that video. And i didn't even need to google this one. As soon as i saw it, i KNEW something was not right with it. It should be a heads up that the guy doing it claims Jesus' 40 day fast was not "bona fide". Ken Hagin, Dad Hagin, as you refer to him, simply is not qualified to make a call that Jesus' fast was not bona fide. Never call any man your Father, for you have only one Father in Heaven. But what scares me the most about this "holy laughter", is the number of people who think it's OK. Notice this video. When you click it to the full page, scroll down and read the comment section. Some people can spot the erroneous theology right off the bat, but others, almost half of them, think it's a good thing to do. Even the elect may be deceived in this, if that's even possible. Some comments from the video: KingJamesBibleBeliever2019 /16111 month ago (edited) Show me one verse where Christ went around laughing like that?
Reply 3 Jeffery Williams3 months ago People will follow anyone and anything. Nothing to this
Reply 2 Del Hershman2 months ago This is NOT God,but satanic. Where in the Bible is this supported?
Reply 4 TheRoyalnavy12311 months ago This is a farce, definitely not scriptural, like performing monkeys in a circus and why does this clown need minders, no wonder Christianity is unpopular nowadays when you look at this show.
Reply 8 Pentecostal Believer S-R3 months ago TO THOSE WHO CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON HERE:
THIS IS DEMONIC!! KENNETH HAGIN IS A WORD OF FAITH "PREACHER" WHO HAS DEMONS FOLLOWING HIM AND BECAUSE OF THIS, THEY JUMP ON AND ENTER INTO UNSUSPECTING PEOPLE WHO SHOULD KNOW BETTER HAD THEY READ THEIR BIBLES!!
IF ANY OF YOU CANNOT DISCERN (JOHN 7:24 "JUDGE"), WHAT IS GOING ON HERE, YOU NEED TO GO BACK AND READ YOUR BIBLE--THESE PEOPLE ARE AFTER YOUR SOUL--NOTHING MORE! THERE IS NO "JOY" HERE, BUT A STRONG DEMONIC INFLUENCE.
DO NOT MAKE THE MISTAKE THAT HE HAS ANY SORT OF GODLY POWER; ALL HIS IS DEMONIC. HE GAVE GOD UP DECADES AGO FOR THIS BLASPHEMOUS DOCTRINE OF DEVILS.
Read more Kelli Vance1 year ago This is an insult to Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. Demonic! This is the one. Watch this 5 minute video where they compare the holy laughter to the occult examples. I wouldn't touch this stuff with a ten foot pole, sorry chris. And sorry for the rant, i hope it doesn't make a bona fide dent in the blogosphere. Kundalini Manifestations in the Church Compared to the Occult
--->ENJOY
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Post by mike on Apr 10, 2019 14:14:17 GMT -6
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. CHRIS
