Jan Markell and Billy Crone flat out lying about 9/23/17

In my response , Billy crone has his own opinion. He is expressing what he believes. The study of eschatology has so many factors that it is very difficult at times to know exactly what and when something will happen. Scripture is very clear. Only God knows. We Christians are all fallible humans who are saved only by God's grace. We just need to remember that.

Maybe if they keep yammering, the attention they bring to it will cause many to actually dig into it deeper. Any superficial investigation of the sign shows that it does not happen this way every 11 years. Even if you eliminate the three planets in Leo, the retrograde of Jupiter within the quadrangle of Virgo definitely does not happen every 11 years. Jupiter passes through the sign every 11 years, but it is just one of the many hands on the clock that all have to line up perfectly. The retrograde is another hand of the clock. So is the sun, so is the moon, so is Mars, so is Mercury, so is Venus.

Mercury, Venus, and the moon are very fast-moving hands. Venus and Mercury are tied to the sun from earth's perspective, and so their orbits are likely to be visibly near to the sun at any given time.

Mars on the other hand is another big variable, like Jupiter.

For them all to line up in neat formation with Regulus is highly unlikely, though.

I would like to see somebody come up with a demonstrably meaningful analysis of what are the chances, statistically, in any given year, that this sign would appear.

If it were just the sun and the moon involved, it would happen approximately once per year. Multiply that times Jupiter's coming through Virgo, that makes it once in 11 years, or so. But what is the frequency and percentage chance of Jupiter's retrograde in any given year, as a factor of the size of Virgo's womb? That factor, I think would be a major telling point.

I also don't know whether Jupiter's retrograde period is ALWAYS the same amount of time (c. 40 weeks) though I assume it must be.

Then you factor in Mars' cycle, and then Merc and Venus. Those two, being based off the sun much more directly to our vantage, than Jupiter and Mars, may be harder to analyse.

Gary, I would hazard an educated guess that no part of Jupiter's retrograde happens in Virgo's womb any more often than maybe one time out of fifty. For it to fit neatly within the confines of the quadrangle, or even close, would have to be even more unusual.

Yeah, I remember hearing Richardson say something about those faint stars being the crown. Problem is, no depictions, ancient or modern, count those stars in the constellations of either Virgo or Leo. They are not meaningful stars. They are also very faint and oftentimes completely invisible to the naked eye.

Lately Virgo and Leo have been high in the night sky in my neck of the woods and I've been able to see what these things really look like. I count exactly 9 stars in Leo - the same 9 stars that show up in Stellarium. Just an interesting little coincidence. I can also see all four of the stars that make up Virgo's womb + Jupiter, but not much else.

The Stearman/Crone video got hammered so bad with the down votes (comment section was disabled) that Stearman took the video down!

I am amazed at this...  I have been on a mission to tell EVERYBODY  I KNOW about the alignment... It's been my experience that most of the "Christians" I've told this to won't even bother to look this up for themselves! The eye roll and then the infamous "nobody knows the day or the hour" slogan will always come up! If you feel like your friends are about to write you off for "going over the deep end", you are not alone.... keep planting seeds! Don't stop! See ya in the clouds!

Something that occurred to me this morning is that Scott Clarke and company have defined and established the narrative for this so powerfully, that the for-profit preachers don't have a strong enough argument to recapture the narrative. The one angle of attack they have left is the imminency argument, and that won't work if Clarke and company make the validity of the sign and what it signifies two separate questions.