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Post by venge on Aug 14, 2018 10:17:01 GMT -6
Forgive me as I don’t understand why we should leave a letter?
Perhaps it’s just me but I don’t feel Christ leading me to say goodbye like Lot’s wife or I’m gone everyone and if your reading this, repent!
Instead, I’m focusing on saving souls now. Door to door visitation.
I should add, I’m not trying to downplay the OP, but I don’t understand.
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Post by fitz on Aug 14, 2018 11:00:44 GMT -6
Forgive me as I don’t understand why we should leave a letter? Perhaps it’s just me but I don’t feel Christ leading me to say goodbye like Lot’s wife or I’m gone everyone and if your reading this, repent! Instead, I’m focusing on saving souls now. Door to door visitation. I should add, I’m not trying to downplay the OP, but I don’t understand. Not hard to understand. I have good friends, a couple my wife and I have dinner with every 2 weeks, that we've witnessed to. We've traveled to Europe twice with them, hang out all the time. They love us, but they will not believe in Jesus. They won't even begin to look into the things we've told them. They think this "part of our life" is nutty. But otherwise, they love spending time with us. And I've very clearly told them that there will come a day when millions of people will disappear off the earth, and we will be gone too. When that happens, they will come looking for us. They have a key to our house and will come in. I've left a letter for them. Basically says: "...take the food, take the guns and ammo, take the bibles, take anything you want, because you will need it. Do not take the mark of the beast as it's a one way ticket to eternal damnation. Believe in Jesus now if you ever want to see us again and save your eternal soul." That's the short version. My actual letter is two typed pages long and clearly explains the gospel, what has happened to us and the coming tribulation. Why wouldn't I leave this letter for them? If they don't believe me now, bet they will after I am gone...and they will need some instruction. |
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Post by mike on Aug 14, 2018 12:41:36 GMT -6
Forgive me as I don’t understand why we should leave a letter? Perhaps it’s just me but I don’t feel Christ leading me to say goodbye like Lot’s wife or I’m gone everyone and if your reading this, repent! Instead, I’m focusing on saving souls now. Door to door visitation. I should add, I’m not trying to downplay the OP, but I don’t understand. Venge, Does it have anything to do with your Trib view? You don't believe in a pre-Trib rapture event, right? So with that you will be here with those all going through this to some degree and the signs will then become greater and perhaps easier to point out what is happening before our eyes (if the 'mid'-trib view happens)? Mike |
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Post by venge on Aug 15, 2018 3:57:14 GMT -6
Either Trib view, I still don’t get it. My life’s testimony is my letter.
I wouldn’t leave them guns. If you seek to save your life you will lose it. Even the centurion, Christ told his disciples to put away their weapons. If a man smites thee on the right cheek, turn to him the left as well.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 6:00:07 GMT -6
I like the idea of the letters. Our job as Christians is to witness to and spread the gospel to as many folks as we can. Salvation does not stop once the tribulation begins. Bringing the lost to Christ is our ultimate charge, regardless of when.
It’s terrible to think about anyone missing the rapture but being able to witness to someone and help them accept Christ in the literal last days is wonderful. And Gary made it very easy for us..lol. It’s a printable letter that literally takes seconds to prepare. Isn’t that worth it for the chance that it may save someone’s soul? Worth a shot in my book.
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Post by fitz on Aug 15, 2018 6:45:50 GMT -6
Either Trib view, I still don’t get it. My life’s testimony is my letter. I wouldn’t leave them guns. If you seek to save your life you will lose it. Even the centurion, Christ told his disciples to put away their weapons. If a man smites thee on the right cheek, turn to him the left as well. Except for Luke 22: 35 Then Jesus asked them, “When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?” “Nothing,” they answered. 36 He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." Jesus wasn't a hippie pacifist. He allows me the right of self-defense against evil people who would kill me and my loved ones. In fact, I believe God expects me to protect my loved ones, with lethal force if needed, as a last resort. |
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Post by mike on Aug 15, 2018 7:39:39 GMT -6
Venge, I don't think I made my clearly enough but I think Fitz did in his first reply. Your life as a testimony won't be remembered by those who refused to listen to you.
Think about what type of hysteria will present during the time of apost rapture event. If I were left behind the last thing I'm thinking is "where's Mike he'll know what to do". People will be desperate and will hear a leader tell them everything is going to be fine... That smooth talker will decieve.
If someone in that day is even able to get to your things (martial law prevalent?) wouldn't you want them to have something like this? At least that is how I view it. I don't think it could hurt any.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 7:42:55 GMT -6
I like the idea of the letters. Our job as Christians is to witness to and spread the gospel to as many folks as we can. Salvation does not stop once the tribulation begins. Bringing the lost to Christ is our ultimate charge, regardless of when. It’s terrible to think about anyone missing the rapture but being able to witness to someone and help them accept Christ in the literal last days is wonderful. And Gary made it very easy for us..lol. It’s a printable letter that literally takes seconds to prepare. Isn’t that worth it for the chance that it may save someone’s soul? Worth a shot in my book. 100% agreement! I have some unbelieving friends and yes, I am a witness to them now and they have heard the gospel from me and (hopefully) also through my life. The letters I see as first assistance for them after the rapture, if they are then willing to accept the truth. I did this by preparing some emails that are to be sent by an automated server after the rapture. I see them also as a last sign of love for my friends: You are still on my heart, your salvation is something that I am heavily interested in, please turn your life to Christ! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 7:52:37 GMT -6
Is Jesus against medicine? Or warm clothing in cold weather? What about healthy foods as opposed to eating unhealthy junk?
These things could all be viewed as seeking to save my life just as much as protecting my family with firearms.
Guns are just a tool and they are not inherently evil.
I am not trying to personally attack you venge or pile on, but the demonization of guns in general is a stickler of mine. You don’t have to agree with me or see eye to eye. I still will love you as a brother😀
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Post by venge on Aug 15, 2018 7:54:41 GMT -6
Why would people seeing a letter think your in heaven and that you didn’t flee or were killed? They wouldn’t know. And if they knew what you believed and never listened when you were here, most likely, the letter would not support the notion to them.
I’m not saying don’t do it. On the contrary I’m trying to understand the use of it positively when I can’t see it logically.
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Post by venge on Aug 15, 2018 8:01:27 GMT -6
Either Trib view, I still don’t get it. My life’s testimony is my letter. I wouldn’t leave them guns. If you seek to save your life you will lose it. Even the centurion, Christ told his disciples to put away their weapons. If a man smites thee on the right cheek, turn to him the left as well. Except for Luke 22: 35 Then Jesus asked them, “When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?” “Nothing,” they answered. 36 He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." Jesus wasn't a hippie pacifist. He allows me the right of self-defense against evil people who would kill me and my loved ones. In fact, I believe God expects me to protect my loved ones, with lethal force if needed, as a last resort. But Fritz, We aren’t talking of you! They aren’t family. You said 2 friends that aren’t saved. You’re leaving weapons to sinners, not family, and hoping they can use them lawfully in the worst time in mans history. There is not a right of self defense if there is a way out. Christ preaches that. Even Peter sheathed his sword. |
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Post by Gary on Aug 15, 2018 8:05:31 GMT -6
Hi Venge,
The purpose of this thread was to share Left Behind letters and printables, not to debate the merits of leaving them. If you would like to debate the merits, please start another thread.
Thanks,
Gary
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Post by nana on Aug 15, 2018 8:25:08 GMT -6
Wrote a letter decades ago and have either updated it or rewrote it over time.
This is one way we can still witness to our family, friends, neighbors or even a stranger after we are taken.
Gather everything and place it where someone will see it when they are in your home because people will come into your homes after you are gone. I believe God himself will direct the feet of many to go to specific home to gather the information left and supplies. This is your opportunity to witness and help those left behind.
Suggested items:
1) Bibles opened to specific salvation passages and rapture passages, also highlight the passages and place a ribbon or place holder on the page for future reference.
2) Prophecy books, tapes, vcr's cassettes, dvd's, dvr's, magazines, articles, printouts, spreadsheets.
3) Strong's Exhaustive Concordance and Strong's Complete Dictionary.
4) A list of websites that may help them along with your password and place the website links in your favorites too.
5) The letter, stating what has happened, why and what to do and a timeline. Also include where supplies are located in the home or on the property.
6) Marked up calendars, as far back as you have them.
7) A timeline of the Feast and what they represent.
8) Let them know you love them and that there is still hope.
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Post by venge on Aug 15, 2018 17:46:34 GMT -6
Hi Venge, The purpose of this thread was to share Left Behind letters and printables, not to debate the merits of leaving them. If you would like to debate the merits, please start another thread. Thanks, Gary Ok Gary. Was trying to understand the logic behind it. Moving along...……. |
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Post by disciple4life on Oct 8, 2019 16:29:19 GMT -6
Why would people seeing a letter think your in heaven and that you didn’t flee or were killed? They wouldn’t know. And if they knew what you believed and never listened when you were here, most likely, the letter would not support the notion to them. I’m not saying don’t do it. On the contrary I’m trying to understand the use of it positively when I can’t see it logically. There are hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people who have heard the truth and have even heard about the rapture, and are somewhat aware of what the Bible teaches regarding the tribulation period.
Then, there are the films by Hollywood, seen by tens of millions more. They don't believe now, but they have heard their crazy Pentecostal Aunt Suzie, or their Crazy grandpa who took them to VBS and believes in a rapture.
The reasons are also countless,- they've seen hypocrisy, they've been hurt by the church, or those claiming to be Christians, they just don't want to surrender, They think they'll change later in life, the cost is too great, too concerned with peer pressure, what others will think, etc, etc,
But when tens of millions of people all go missing, and it's 24/7 wall to wall hysteria, and the rioting and looting is everywhere, and the economy melts and collapses, - you better believe they will be remembering their Crazy aunt Suzie.
The world leaders will need to get their story straight, and what about the missing leaders-?? Missing congressmen, senators, police, military officers, and lawmakers, doctors. At that point, when your neighbor's sister is gone and your Crazy aunt Suzie AND Crazy Grandpa and the pastor's wife who works in your office, everyone will know someone who is missing. When the bloggers and keyboard warriors notice it happened on a Feast Day, people will be dusting off the Bible they got from Crazy Aunt Suzie.
With all the writers and journalists and reporters, it will take less than 12 hours for them to make the connection that the Alien abduction story has a lot of holes. Millions missing all over the world, but somehow, the aliens didn't take a single Buddhist, or Muslim or a single atheist, or a single Jehovah's witness, or a single Mormon, -- only Christians.
I left a letter for a dear friend, along with money, and instructions. I know it doesn't make sense to him now - he can think I'm crazy - that's OK. When the internet collapses, and the phone lines are jammed, he'll get out my letter. ;-)
Along with the letter, I've printed some links to articles, and also the names of other believers who are mutual friends, who would also be missing. I think that this would be a helpful strategy so that people can make some sense. connect the dots. I also highlighted several verses as well, and told him not to believe anything about an alien abduction, or any other message he would hear from the media.
Maranatha,
Disciple4life
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