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Post by stormyknight on Apr 8, 2018 7:53:10 GMT -6
I just came across this video about why the Jews don't see Jesus in Isaiah 53. I was exasperated that this man, Nehemia Gordon, a Jew, could talk about Luke 24, v.13, the story of the two disciples on the road to Emmaus, retelling the story himself, yet he still doesn't believe that Jesus is the one to redeem Israel, or rather, he's doesn't know...yet. So I get on my favorite online reference bible site, the Blue Letter Bible, and check out Luke 24 and read the story again for myself. Sure enough, the two disciples don't realize who Jesus is until He breaks bread with them. Nehemia explains that Jesus has to be revealed to the two disciples in order for them to recognize Him. Ok, sounds right. But then, I pull up Isaiah 53:1 and right there in the first verse it says that very thing! "Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed? " Yes, I got 'giddy'. I really love it when the Holy Spirit shows us little nuggets like this!
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Post by stormyknight on Apr 8, 2018 8:35:56 GMT -6
While I was watching that first video, my wife was watching this video, so, when I told her about the first video, she say's 'wow, you should see this one!'
Blown away again!!!
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Post by fitz on Apr 8, 2018 8:54:08 GMT -6
Baffling. This blindness that God has put on them is a powerful thing. I believe the rapture will open their eyes as the blindness is lifted.
Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2018 10:12:10 GMT -6
This is indeed astonishing.
Want to add my own experience on that.
I have visited Israel several times and my messianic friends there use to go to the streets and public places and ask passing Jews there to read Isaiah 53. Virtually every Jew has his bible or lets say OT in his pocket.
(Isaiah 53 is btw a forbidden chapter in synagogues....!)
Afterwards they were asked to identify that man.
Nearly everyone says: "The man from Galilee". They don't say Messiah.
But my friends there see a growing interest in the bible and the Messiah and this is very encouraging.
In Israel you can talk with strangers about God, the bible, the Messiah without any problems and all people I have met are very open minded.
This is unthinkable here in Germany...
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Post by mike on Apr 9, 2018 9:10:32 GMT -6
I wasnt aware Isaiah 53 was forbidden. Similarly I learned recently that Daniel 9:24-27 is also forbidden and carries a curse according to the Talmud.
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Post by mike on Apr 9, 2018 10:30:13 GMT -6
so while I was looking for a reference to the Talmud forbidding/cursing those who read Dan 9:24-27 I found this very interesting article on Torah Class website explaining the timing of the 483 years. What I found most interesting as I was reading the beginning I wasnt certain if this a Jewish article written to disprove when the Messiah came or Messianic Jew type site to prove the timing. However the thing that sticks out to me was the pause in the years. " The reader needs to understand that nowhere in this prophecy does it state that these are 490 consecutive years." Meaning there could be a pause after the first 7 years, or a pause after the next 483 or a pause elsewhere. I think that @stephan and witness1 may enjoy this article. Its not too long to read maybe 5-10 minutes. Please share the content in appropriate areas as needed  |
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Post by witness1 on Apr 9, 2018 10:42:31 GMT -6
Thanks mike. I can’t wait!
As an aside, my Jewish friend said Jews are forbidden from studying ANY Messianic prophesies without a rabbi.
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Post by stormyknight on Apr 9, 2018 14:16:23 GMT -6
@stephan, did your Messianic friends record these interactions and put them on YT? I have seen a couple of videos on there just like what you describe. I had not heard about Dan. 9:24-27 being forbidden though, mike. It really surprises me that, especially in Jewish circles, some of the scriptures would be stamped 'forbidden'. But, of course, just like a little kid, if you tell them "NO", you know very well they are going to want to do it, so I'm thinking there is a large number of Jews that know Isaiah 53 and Daniel 9 by heart, though they might say otherwise. Just my speculation, I could be wrong. I guess it might be similar to what the Council of Nicea did in allowing only certain books into the final Canon. |
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