Post by neural on Mar 23, 2018 18:11:02 GMT -6
Ok, the scene here is pre-flood. Enoch has had his little boy Methuselah running around for 300 years. The world was a mess. The Fallen angels had been procreating with human women and having offspring by them.
The law had not been laid out yet. Grace was not part of the equation.
Ok, just going to try and keep this short, but can we all agree that with the shape that the world was in at the time, that Enoch had to be a pretty amazing believer if God simply said "no dying for you, you're coming with Me."?
I mean, is this the sort of thing that would be in God's character to do, if Enoch was't a very righteous man?
Some of you may think you know where I'm going with this, but I'm going to cut some of it off at the pass.
I am NOT proposing to argue that the Book of Enoch is inspired.
I AM however going to pose that if the writing of this book was anything but righteous, would it not have counted against the righteousness of Enoch? And why is the entire 2nd chapter (short as it is) quoted in Jude, if it is not at least something that God finds worthy of being quoted? Not to mention the references to Jesus being the "son of man" in various locations in the Bible, which is a phrase directly from the Book of Enoch (used to refer to Jesus).
I'd like to understand why people don't take this book more seriously, as it appears to be not only historical but prophetic as well.
Look, I know it's hard for some people to grasp, so let me put it this way. If the news pops up tomorrow that a previously unknown handwritten journal was found written by Billy Graham that outlined visions he had had throughout his life, how would it be received by the church? Again, while no such thing exists (that I know of) a find like that I think would need to be taken seriously considering who the author was.
I say the same of Enoch, considering who he was, I think that inspired or not, we should be looking much closer at what he wrote, especially as it pertains to the end times.
There are people like me who it would not be surprising for Jesus to stand at the door, hold His nose and say "well done good and ...just..just go in, the line is backing up!" (not saying He would, it's example and satire).
But Enoch.. no. God found Enoch to be so righteous that the Creator of the universe stretched out His hand and snatched Enoch up from the earth.
Maybe I'm crazy, but to me, that says that Enoch was something special, and I think anything that an individual like that wrote is worth intensive focus after so many millennia of being shunned.
The law had not been laid out yet. Grace was not part of the equation.
Ok, just going to try and keep this short, but can we all agree that with the shape that the world was in at the time, that Enoch had to be a pretty amazing believer if God simply said "no dying for you, you're coming with Me."?
I mean, is this the sort of thing that would be in God's character to do, if Enoch was't a very righteous man?
Some of you may think you know where I'm going with this, but I'm going to cut some of it off at the pass.
I am NOT proposing to argue that the Book of Enoch is inspired.
I AM however going to pose that if the writing of this book was anything but righteous, would it not have counted against the righteousness of Enoch? And why is the entire 2nd chapter (short as it is) quoted in Jude, if it is not at least something that God finds worthy of being quoted? Not to mention the references to Jesus being the "son of man" in various locations in the Bible, which is a phrase directly from the Book of Enoch (used to refer to Jesus).
I'd like to understand why people don't take this book more seriously, as it appears to be not only historical but prophetic as well.
Look, I know it's hard for some people to grasp, so let me put it this way. If the news pops up tomorrow that a previously unknown handwritten journal was found written by Billy Graham that outlined visions he had had throughout his life, how would it be received by the church? Again, while no such thing exists (that I know of) a find like that I think would need to be taken seriously considering who the author was.
I say the same of Enoch, considering who he was, I think that inspired or not, we should be looking much closer at what he wrote, especially as it pertains to the end times.
There are people like me who it would not be surprising for Jesus to stand at the door, hold His nose and say "well done good and ...just..just go in, the line is backing up!" (not saying He would, it's example and satire).
But Enoch.. no. God found Enoch to be so righteous that the Creator of the universe stretched out His hand and snatched Enoch up from the earth.
Maybe I'm crazy, but to me, that says that Enoch was something special, and I think anything that an individual like that wrote is worth intensive focus after so many millennia of being shunned.