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Post by schooldad3 on Mar 12, 2018 17:47:25 GMT -6
No dreams or visions were involved in the discovery of the following. Just good solid research. Major prophetic development today on the scale of 9/23/17. But because people have a flawed view of Gog and Magog/Ezekiel 38-39 they missed it. The language of 38:4 forces the conclusion that Israel has two encounters with GOG. " 4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth", The Hebrew and English both force the conclusion that Gog and Israel have had an encounter once before ( I will turn thee back ) and will be forced back into a second conflict ( put hooks in your Jaw ) . This was first proposed by Arthur Bloomfield back in the 1950s The first conflict results in the destruction of Israel but with the divine intervention of the Lord driving their enemies out. Obadiah 11- 21. The second conflict results in the armies of Gog being destroyed in the mountains of Israel. Ezekiel 38:17 Thus saith the LORD GOD; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them? The above can only be a reference to the person known as antichrist. An Islamic Army of immense power and size is being gathered www.memri.org/reports/turkish-newspaper-close-president-erdogan-calls-form-joint-islamic-army-fight-israelwww.google.com/maps/d/embed?mid=1XzAUv4ICTHX0vSZKxIzkipQFxQpsqLPK&ll=13.382383368432366%2C37.730771914843444&z=3
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Post by fitz on Mar 12, 2018 20:07:47 GMT -6
No dreams or visions were involved in the discovery of the following. Just good solid research. Major prophetic development today on the scale of 9/23/17. But because people have a flawed view of Gog and Magog/Ezekiel 38-39 they missed it. The language of 38:4 forces the conclusion that Israel has two encounters with GOG. " 4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth", The Hebrew and English both force the conclusion that Gog and Israel have had an encounter once before ( I will turn thee back ) and will be forced back into a second conflict ( put hooks in your Jaw ) . This was first proposed by Arthur Bloomfield back in the 1950s The first conflict results in the destruction of Israel but with the divine intervention of the Lord driving their enemies out. Obadiah 11- 21. The second conflict results in the armies of Gog being destroyed in the mountains of Israel. Ezekiel 38:17 Thus saith the LORD GOD; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them? The above can only be a reference to the person known as antichrist. An Islamic Army of immense power and size is being gathered www.memri.org/reports/turkish-newspaper-close-president-erdogan-calls-form-joint-islamic-army-fight-israelwww.google.com/maps/d/embed?mid=1XzAUv4ICTHX0vSZKxIzkipQFxQpsqLPK&ll=13.382383368432366%2C37.730771914843444&z=3Hi schooldad3 , I see three major conflicts between now and Eternity. 1. Gog-Magog - Ezekiel 38-39 - When Israel is dwelling in safety. Today, despite occasional terrorist strikes or the lobbing of poorly aimed rockets, Israel is pretty much safe, lush, prosperous and full of tourists...in un-walled villages. This is a limited alliance of nations that attack Israel, primarily from areas to the north. Meshech and Tubal, Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya, Gomer, Tomargah…these are most likely the modern nations of Russia, Turkey, Iran, Libya and Sudan. God Himself defeats these invaders on the mountains of Israel. The slaughter will be so great it will take seven months to bury all of the dead. A peace treaty with the AC is either in effect prior to, or possibly as a result of this conflict. 2. Armageddon - Rev. 19:11 - 21 - Israel is not dwelling in safety at this time. At the mid-point of the Tribulation, a remnant have fled for their lives from the persecution of the AC. This is the point at which the AC breaks the covenant (treaty) and attacks Israel, obviously capturing the temple mount. By the end of the Tribulation, the entire world has just suffered through 7 years of the wrath of God. No one will be “dwelling in safety”. The world is a dangerous and inhospitable place at this time. All the nations of the world led by the AC gather against Israel at the end of the Tribulation in the plain of Meggido. Jesus, (followed by us) executes the slaughter of the AC's armies at His second coming. The AC & the false prophet are cast into the lake of fire. The clean-up crew here seems to be critters...fowls of the air, etc. Not sure how that works. 3. After the Millennium - Rev. 20:7:10 – Satan’s last stand…he is released from the pit to deceive the nations one final time. Interestingly, Gog, and Magog are mentioned here in the list of participants, which are ALL the world’s nations that have rebelled against the rule of Jesus and join with Satan. The AC is already in the lake of fire. He can’t come back, so he must not be Gog, at least not in this case. Fire falls from heaven and destroys Satan's last army. Satan joins the AC in the lake. No clean up needed. Next is the Great White Throne judgement. 7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Gog is not necessarily a single person, per se, but rather the spirit of Satan which could be manifest in various persons. (The AC? Putin? Erdogan?) My .02
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Post by schooldad3 on Mar 12, 2018 21:20:42 GMT -6
will be glad to explain it over the phone. I promise you i will leave no stone unturned. here is my email schooldadwinchester@gmail.com. i refuse to dialogue on line any more
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Post by mike on Mar 13, 2018 5:49:43 GMT -6
thanks for your contributions schooldad3, sad to see you go. Hopefully you can put up a video on it instead of phone calls, that way we can all hear what youve discovered
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 11:50:49 GMT -6
Want to second this mike. Though it may be cumbersome and painful to create written or visual summaries, my experience is this is the way we are learning from each other. One to one conversations I found to be helpful for witnessing. Or in discussing particular points. But to lay out findings or teachings is important not only for the reader/listener but also for the writer himself, because it forces us to reflect about the own thoughts and to make sure they transport the intended message. This is applicable to books, articles, posts, videos, .... in simple words: every broadcast. I hope schooldad3, you find the time for it.
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Post by daniel on Mar 20, 2018 9:29:57 GMT -6
I also want to mention the value of online content. I love being a part of this community of like minded believers, interested in studying aspects of our Savior that may be hard to find in our local, face-to-face communities. I only wish Google would index the content in these forums to make it available for search.
This is one of the reasons why I tend to put my discoveries in a blogpost, and then add a link to it in an unsealed.org forum thread. Then Google will index the blogpost (making it available to those who don't know about unsealed.org), yet we can still discuss it here.
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