Post by MissusMack08 on Sept 25, 2017 0:53:50 GMT -6
But here is what I am really getting at.
www.haaretz.com/study-finds-close-genetic-connection-between-jews-kurds-1.75273
This is an older study that was done, but it is very interesting in its conclusions.
First, it uses only Y-DNA information. This is incredibly important because it is Patrilineal genealogies that seem to matter most to God in the Bible. By contrast, Jewish people today tend to rely on matrilineal descent to determine someone's "Jewishness." Y-DNA only deals with that which is passed down from father to son. Therefore you can determine a direct male ancestry by it (to the extent it is accurate). All lengthy genealogies in the Bible follow the Patriarchal line and not the matriarchal line. Therefore, I conclude that when God determines which family, clan, tribe, or ethnicity a person belongs to, He uses patrilinear descent rather than matrilinear, or any other method such as "preponderance of total descent."
Second, The exact origins of the Kurds is not well established in history, especially before about 200BC. You can see the Wikipediaaccount I posted in a previous post to see that.
Third, the Kurds do indeed seem to be centered around the area of ancient Assyria, now and throughout their known history---
Fourth, the Bible indicates the Assyrians are not very closely related to Israelites, especially in a patrilineal sense. . . . (Gen. 10:6-12) (Descended from Ham, not Shem).
Fifth, we have this passage from the Biblical record:
2Ki 18:11 And the king of Assyria did carry away Israel unto Assyria, and put them in Halah and in Habor by the river of Gozan, and in the cities of the Medes:
2Ki 18:12 Because they obeyed not the voice of the LORD their God, but transgressed his covenant, and all that Moses the servant of the LORD commanded, and would not hear them, nor do them.
This Wikipedia article for Tel Halaf reveals some incredible info about this place and its archaeological digs conducted by a German Dilomat-turned-archaeologist, Max Oppenheim:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tell_Halaf
And what I find even more incredible is that the Professor who conducted the genetic testing showing that Kurds are incredibly closely related to Jews is also named Oppenheim--(Ariella Oppenheim), what a coincidence! (See the story at the top of this post). And even more incredible, the article was posted in 2001, after the study was completed (the timing of the study process is not revealed in the article), and this is very close to 100 years after Max Oppenheim discovered Tel Halaf, which is almost certainly one of the Assyrian-occupied cities the northern Israelites were resettled in by the conquering Assyrians.
Then we have this Biblical account:
1Ch 5:26 And the God of Israel stirred up the spirit of Pul king of Assyria, and the spirit of Tilgathpilneser king of Assyria, and he carried them away, even the Reubenites, and the Gadites, and the half tribe of Manasseh, and brought them unto Halah, and Habor, and Hara, and to the river Gozan, unto this day.
Most people who comment on this seem to indicate that the River Gozan is the same as the Khabur River, and that this name is related to the afore-mentioned Habor.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khabur_(Euphrates)
So what I am proposing is the possibility that the Kurds could be Israelites. Some of the lost tribes. Quite possibly they never got all that lost at all, they perhaps stayed in the same place the whole time, and just lost their continuing identity.
One place I read suggests that the fluidity of consonants among the various languages involved could indicate that in older times "Kurd" was pronounced more like "Gurd." And from there, I don't have too much trouble hypothesizing a link to the tribe of Gad, possibly as one of the more prominent of the captured tribes.
The Kurds, even as a predominantly Moslem people group in the past 1,000+ years, have actively harbored and protected Jews, Christians, Yazidis, Zoarastrians, and other minority ethnic and reigious groups from the more aggressive Moslem entities in the area. Now look at this article in the Jerusalem Post last year:
www.jpost.com/Middle-East/This-is-our-1948-Kurds-kindle-a-close-relationship-with-Jews-and-Israel-453715
With all this in mind, are you seeing the connections I am seeing, or am I just imagining it?
It would also put a serious kink in the theory that the 'lost 10 tribes' are spread across europe (british-israelism, et al) - namely, it would be they who are the ones who are the synagogue of satan...