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Post by peoplegetready on Mar 16, 2018 18:03:02 GMT -6
FOOT OF OPHIUCUS - (CRUSHING SCORPIO'S HEAD)
February 1-8, 2018 Mars Stock Market fall 2-2-18 (666 points) and continuing
December 6, 2017 Venus President Trump's Jerusalem Embassy declaration
June 21, 1982 Uranus Birth of Prince William (I just couldn't help myself) He will be 36 (6x6) this year. The
number 36 means enemy. There was a solar eclipse that day over the club of Orion.
A lot of people think he could be the Antichrist. He does look like the image on the
Shroud of Turin (if the Shroud means anything).
October 6, 1973 Neptune Yom Kippur War -- Venus was in Scorpio close to Antares.
November 29, 1947 Jupiter UN Proclamation
December 6/7, 1941 Mercury Pearl Harbor
October 31, 1517 Venus The Reformation (This is my personal favorite, and the sign that got me looking for dates
and signs).
FUTURE DATES--
November 27, 2018 Jupiter, ? This looks scary to me, but who knows?
Mercury,
& Sun
December 21, 2020 Venus Same time as Jupiter/Saturn conjunction
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Post by douwant2go2heaven on Mar 18, 2018 9:51:21 GMT -6
120 days from March 28, 2018----
July 27, 2018 - 2 huge heavenly signs on Tu b'Av (both in Capricornus)
CENTRAL BULL'S EYE BLOOD MOON ECLIPSE
Seen in Jerusalem as moon arises. The eclipse is near Capricornus' mouth
MARS (MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL) AT OPPOSITION (BRIGHTEST IN 15 YEARS)
Mars is brightest since 8-27-03 when it was the brightest in thousands of years. Also in Capricornus.
My guess is both these signs on 7/27 mean the Ezekiel 38-39 war. I am in the camp that thinks part of
these chapters describe the United States also, besides Israel.
Mars and Saturn conjunct April 2, 2018, in Sagittarius. I read years ago on Cutting Edge that the Illuminati
like to start or have wars when Mars is in Sagittarius (only if God allows, of course). Mars starts brightening in
April. Probably the Isaiah 17 and Psalm 83 wars are in here somewhere.
Now get this (I just found this out a couple of minutes ago looking for when Mars enters Capricornus)--ta da
Mars enters Capricornus on MAY 14...wouldn't you know...and Venus is in between the horns of Taurus. Israel's
70th birthday and Pres. Trump's trip to Israel. WOW
Amazingly, there are 1,000 days (inclusive this time) from July 27. 2018, to another big sign on December 21. 2020.
Continued on next post.....
Yes. Amen. The United States is clearly implicated in Ezekiel 38-39. The "evil scheme" that Gog and his army devises "on that day" is an all out first strike nuclear attack on Babylon the Great and Israel. Gog and all his hordes from the north will be successful in destroying Babylon the Great, but will utterly fail when they try to take out Israel simultaneously. God is also said to send a "fire on those who dwell securely in the coastlands" in Ezekiel 39:6 This is another reference to the United States, who in Ezekiel 38 is identified as the "young lions" of the merchants of Tarshish aligned with Saudia Arabia (Sheba and Dedan). The United States has many synonyms in the Bible. Over and over and over again she is shadowed in the prophetic books by many of the ancient kingdoms who fell. She is totally destroyed on the cloudy day by not only the 10 kings, but also by God Himself!
"The LORD has opened his armory and brought out the weapons of his wrath, for the Lord GOD of hosts has a work to do in the land of Babylon." Jeremiah 50:25 Inside the armory of God are the hail stones and coals of fire that will satisfy His wrath on Babylon the Great, the mistress of witchcrafts that has practiced harlotry since her youth!
“Have you entered the storehouses of the snow, or have you seen the storehouses of the hail, which I have reserved for the time of trouble, for the day of battle and war?" Job 38:22-23 The hailstones and coals of fire are unleashed on the day the temple in heaven is opened. It all happens when The LORD shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem! The heavens and the earth will shake! But the LORD will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel! The shaking of the heavens and the earth are all connected to the battle of Gog and Magog! God will open up the temple in heaven with a shout...meaning He will roar out of Zion! The voice of the archangel will cry out to reap the harvest......meaning Michael is standing up for the time of trouble as seen in Daniel 12 and Revelation 10 & 12. The trumpet of God will raise the dead in Christ first and we who are alive and remain will be caught up in the clouds to meet the LORD in the air and so shall we ever be with the LORD!....meaning that the voice of God, which is like a trumpet, will call His body through the open door in heaven on the cloudy day as Revelation 4:1-5 tells us! All of this happens suddenly and in an instant for those who belong to Him! But for those who don't, the cloudy day will be the beginning of the most traumatic time in all of human history. Mankind will blaspheme God for the plague of the hail because it will be exceeding great, each stone will weigh about 100 pounds each! Mankind will try to hide in the dust for the fear of the LORD and for the glory of His majesty! Mankind will cry out for the rocks to cover them and for the mountains to fall on them because of the wrath of the lamb, for who shall be able to stand? NO ONE! Ezekiel 38 tells us that every living thing on the planet will shake at the presence of God on the cloudy day! At the fall of Babylon the whole world shakes according to Jeremiah 50:46. John says that the greatest earthquake to ever occur in the planets history will move every island and shake every mountain in order to make way for the rise of the 4th beast kingdom, headed by the 10 kings and the "little horn" who understands dark sentences and destroys many by peace. The rapture event aka cloudy day aka day of sudden destruction aka the beginning of the day of the LORD is given so much attention in the word of God because it is the day when everything changes! There is so much written about it, it's mind boggling. I'm willing to venture that more is spoken about the cloudy day than even the 2nd coming of the LORD to the earth to set up the 1,000 year reign from Jerusalem! I believe God has given us so many details, types, and shadows about the cloudy day because He doesn't want us to miss the ramifications of it. To be left behind on the cloudy day is just such a terrible prospect that it defies comprehension. There's not even a guarantee that you will survive the cloudy day because there will be many dead bodies in every place! God will pour out mans flesh like dung on that day! 1/4 of the worlds population will be killed from the cloudy day event and all 1/4th will go straight to hell hence why hell follows right after death when the 4th horse rides. There will be no chance of repentance for those caught in the judgment of the cloudy day! The hypocrites will be found out on the day of sudden destruction and will be sent to hell because they played God for a fool! But for those who do survive the cloudy day event, WOE...WOE....WOE!!!!!! Praise the LORD that He gave you grace and extended to you mercy because you will have a chance to repent during the tribulation, but those days will be filled with sorrow and desperate grief! If in the land of safety you were troubled....which is right now....how will you be able to endure when the Jordan swells...which is the tribulation? If you have raced with men on foot and they have wearied you...which is right now.....how will you compete with horses? when the tribulation begins? Sad that lots of folks are deceived into thinking that they'll be able to wait until the tribulation to get right with God. The devil is working behind the scenes right now and the lost still can't comprehend his schemes! How in the world will they be able to resist the enemy when he is openly manifested in human flesh? Along with all his henchman? Woe worth the day! Kind of went off on a tangent....but I was just typing what God put on my heart right now. God bless you and keep up the good work my friend. I am enjoying your thread. Amen. |
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Post by peoplegetready on Mar 18, 2018 15:31:40 GMT -6
Thank you douwant2go2heaven. Your post had a lot of good information to think about.
Here's my 2 cents. We were warned by the solar eclipse on 8-21-17. (To whom much is given, much is required.)
The U.S. is hit with nukes from the North (over the north pole) sent by the Lord. Many in the U.S. are destroyed, but
many are left. The children of Israel and Judah are to return to Israel. Jeremiah also says many will go back to their
own country (the immigration problem solved). It will be hell on earth for the U.S. from then on. It will be invaded
by foreigners--Chinese, Russians and many others. The traitors in this country have let many of them in just waiting
for the day. They also have the concentration camps ready to go. Death, destruction, famine, and pestilence will reign.
There will be many tribulation saints martyred.
Revelation 18:2 says Babylon the Great is fallen, is fallen. To me, it means twice. The second eclipse on April 8, 2024,
is the other warning. This is the final destruction of the U.S. or what's left of it.
One more thought--Isaiah 17, is Damascus (imminent in my opinion). I've been taught by J.R. Church and Southwest
Radio Church and others that Isaiah 18 is the U.S. Isaiah 18:5 says:
For afore the harvest when the bud is perfect, and the sour grape is ripening in the flower,
He shall cut off the sprigs with pruning hooks and take away and cut down the branches.
I think the grape harvest in California is towards the end of August/September. July seems about right to me--Mars
brightest and the Lunar eclipse on July 27, 2018.
Like I said--just my 2 cents.
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Post by witness1 on Mar 18, 2018 18:07:28 GMT -6
I'm confused by this idea that the hailstones weighing 100 pounds each fall on the "The rapture event aka cloudy day aka day of sudden destruction aka the beginning of the day of the LORD". The plague of the hailstones is the 7th plague/7th bowl, which seems to me to be at the end of everything. When this happens, the angel says, "It is done". Not "It begins". "The seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and a loud voice came out of the temple, from the throne, saying, “It is done!” And there were flashes of lightning, rumblings,peals of thunder, and a great earthquake such as there had never been since man was on the earth, so great was that earthquake. The great city was split into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell, and God remembered Babylon the great, to make her drain the cup of the wine of the fury of his wrath. And every island fled away, and no mountains were to be found. And great hailstones, about one hundred pounds each, fell from heaven on people; and they cursed God for the plague of the hail, because the plague was so severe." Rev 16:17-21 Wondering if you could explain to me how you see the 7th bowl happening the day of the rapture, douwant2go2heaven. I struggle with the idea of God killing everyone immediately. I do think many people will have time to come to Him during the tribulation, even though I wish they would do so now! I get that God just rained down judgment in the OT, and that He would be completely just if He were to do so today. But why does the angel fly through the air proclaiming the Gospel and warning people not to take the mark of the beast, if He just kills nearly everyone from the beginning? I am beginning to view the tribulation as God's mercy to give people trials that draw them to Him and not merely wrath. |
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Post by peoplegetready on Mar 18, 2018 18:20:37 GMT -6
URANUS - the 7th Planet
This is my case for Uranus representing the Philadelphia Church-----
Uranus was discovered on March 13, 1781, by Herschel. On that day it had just crossed into Taurus. It had
always been in the heavens, of course. It has an 84-year orbit around the sun--an average of 7 years per
constellation (some constellations are bigger, some smaller, so it varies). It is hard to see because it looks
like a star, is dim, and moves slowly.
I have been listening to Dr. David Jeremiah on the radio. He started Revelation in February. The first part of
March, he did the 7 Churches. His programs on the Philadelphia Church inspired me to read about the
Great Awakenings (good articles on Wikipedia).
The First Great Awakening started in England with George Whitefield, John Wesley, and Gilbert Tennet in the
1730's. George Whitefield came to the states and preached several places. Get this--I just looked it up--I put
in 1730 and Uranus was in the foot of Ophiucus crushing the head of Scorpio (oh how I love to say that)
and then it slowly moves across Scorpio. Remember, it only happens every 84 years. In 1741, Jonathan
Edwards started preaching "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God" all over.
My opinion is the First Great Awakening was the very early beginning of the Philadelphia Church--the Holy Spirit,
the new birth, regeneration, personal Bible study, and the missionary work started.
Then there was the Second Great Awakening in the 1800's with Spurgeon, D.L. Moody, and others.
So in about the middle of the two Great Awakenings, Uranus was discovered! This is not a coincidence in my
opinion ( we don't believe in coincidences anyway).
p.s. David Jeremiah did "The Church Through the Ages" program listed as 3-17-18. He explains the Awakenings
way better than I can. DavidJeremiah.org/radio (sorry I don't know how to put it on so you can just
click it--you know me).
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Post by peoplegetready on Mar 18, 2018 19:07:57 GMT -6
Witness1:
In the last few months, I have come to the exact same conclusion as you. The Tribulation is God's mercy, not just
judgment. If things went along normally, very few would get saved. The world needs a wakeup call.
I went through a lot of trials, as so many others, to get saved. It makes it easy to see. Look what Israel has to go
through. It will be the same for the rest of the world. The wars and hardships will result in hundreds of millions
getting saved.
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Post by witness1 on Mar 18, 2018 20:15:04 GMT -6
Yes! My trials were God's grace to me to know Him more fully. I can say with Paul that I count all things as loss for the surpassing greatness of knowing Him. I agree with James that we need to count it as joy when we receive various trials, even though discipline does not feel pleasant at the time. Often I have recognized that God worked in my heart during these trials, and it was He who gave the trials in the first place. So then I look around at my neighbors who are happy and healthy and prosperous and won't listen to my message to them, and I wonder how anyone will draw close to God without a trial to draw them. Perhaps the Lord will do just this.
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Post by douwant2go2heaven on Mar 19, 2018 0:00:04 GMT -6
I'm confused by this idea that the hailstones weighing 100 pounds each fall on the "The rapture event aka cloudy day aka day of sudden destruction aka the beginning of the day of the LORD". The plague of the hailstones is the 7th plague/7th bowl, which seems to me to be at the end of everything. When this happens, the angel says, "It is done". Not "It begins". "The seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and a loud voice came out of the temple, from the throne, saying, “It is done!” And there were flashes of lightning, rumblings,peals of thunder, and a great earthquake such as there had never been since man was on the earth, so great was that earthquake. The great city was split into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell, and God remembered Babylon the great, to make her drain the cup of the wine of the fury of his wrath. And every island fled away, and no mountains were to be found. And great hailstones, about one hundred pounds each, fell from heaven on people; and they cursed God for the plague of the hail, because the plague was so severe." Rev 16:17-21 Wondering if you could explain to me how you see the 7th bowl happening the day of the rapture, douwant2go2heaven . I struggle with the idea of God killing everyone immediately. I do think many people will have time to come to Him during the tribulation, even though I wish they would do so now! I get that God just rained down judgment in the OT, and that He would be completely just if He were to do so today. But why does the angel fly through the air proclaiming the Gospel and warning people not to take the mark of the beast, if He just kills nearly everyone from the beginning? I am beginning to view the tribulation as God's mercy to give people trials that draw them to Him and not merely wrath. Blessings Witness1. John is seeing the same event from different perspectives. The same event that he is seeing is the opening of the temple in heaven and the effects of it. 1. Revelation 4:1-5 2. Revelation 8:2-5 3. Revelation 11:19 4. Revelation 15:5-8 5. Revelation 16:18-21 All 5 passages of scripture are talking about the same event. Only each time the event takes place John gives more "revelation" of it. When John first sees the event take place he goes through the open door in heaven (the rapture) and he sees the throne of God, hears the voices, hears the thunders, and sees the lightning In Revelation 4:1-5. What John doesn't experience are the effects that are taking place on earth at the same time because he has been raptured to the Fathers house. The effects that come on the earth are the hailstones and coals of fire and the great earthquake. It's not until he gets more "revelation" that he records what takes place on earth at the same time the temple in heaven is opened. The second time John records the temple in heaven opening is in Revelation 8:2-5. Now John is in heaven and not on earth as he was when he first recorded the temple in heaven opening in Revelation 4:1-5. Because John is now in heaven his perspective of the temple in heaven opening has changed. John is now a witness to how the temple in heaven is opened and what happens not only in heaven but also what comes on the earth. That is why John is able to tell us where the fire comes from that will rain down on the earth on the cloudy day. The fire comes from the golden altar in heaven as Revelation 8:2-5 tells us. The third time John sees the temple in heaven opening is in Revelation 11:19. This is the first time that the temple in heaven is "SPECIFICALLY" said to be opened. And John records the same things that take place in his previous 2 mentions of the event. He says that the ark of the covenant is seen in heaven which is the throne of God. The same ark of the covenant that was seen when John first went to heaven (the rapture) in Revelation 4:1-5. John also records flashes of lightning, noises, thunder, an earthquake, and heavy hail. The same 5 things that John said he saw in Revelation 8:2-5. The fourth time John sees the temple in heaven opening is in Revelation 15:5-8. Here John again tells us SPECIFICALLY that the temple in heaven is opened and describes how the temple in heaven is opened and who comes out of the temple. John tells us that the 7 angels who stand before God who also have the 7 trumpets are given 7 bowls of wrath and exit the temple doors. The "smoke" that fills the temple is the same scene that is playing out in Revelation 8:2-5 when the angel who stands by the golden Altar offers up the prayers of all saints upon the Golden Altar of incense. It is the same thing that happens in Leviticus 16 when God appears in the cloud over the atonement cover because the smoke of the incense has filled the holy of holies! Only this time it's the heavenly temple that is opening on the cloudy day because Yeshua is going to appear on the ark of His covenant (the throne of God) and the clouds will go before Him. It's the same thing that Isaiah saw in his vision in Isaiah 6. It's all connected. The fifth time that John sees the temple in heaven opening is in Revelation 16:18-21. Now John gets the complete "REVELATION" of what happens on the cloudy day. He gets the details of the great earthquake. He gets the details of the hail stones. John gets the full scope of the 4 visions that came prior to this one. The 7th angel who pours out his bowl into the air and the voice coming from the throne, saying, "it is done" is the 7th bowl. IT IS DONE is the 7th bowl of wrath! Not the words that come after it describing the destruction of Babylon the Great, the greatest earthquake in human history, and the hailstones falling weighing 100 pounds each. When the 7th bowl of wrath is poured What happens next is the return of Yeshua at the battle of Armageddon. We read about that in Revelation 19:11-21. When the 7th bowl is poured out and God says "It is done" the heavens open and Yeshua comes riding on the white horse! He destroys His enemies at the battle of Armageddon by the brightness of His coming and by the word of His mouth; not with hailstones and an earthquake. When the heavens open at the 7th bowl of wrath, the FULL GLORY of GOD is revealed! No need for hailstones and coals of fire! The enemies of God are going to melt where they stand on that day! When the rapture comes the clouds come first because the brightness of God must be shielded from those on the earth or else everybody would melt! Hence why on the cloudy day the judgment is hailstones and coals of fire and the greatest earthquake in human history. Mankind will still be living at that time, hence why they are able to blaspheme God because of the hailstones! When Yeshua comes again at the battle of Armageddon there is no blaspheming going on! The heavens will open on that day and God will destroy all those who are alive at that time by His brightness and the word of of His mouth! The word of His mouth is the 7th bowl of wrath....... IT IS DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nothing else to be said. No fight. No struggle. No war. The enemies of God are all destroyed at the battle of Armageddon with those 3 words! And all of us who were at the marriage supper of the lamb will follow the King of Kings on white horses as victors to reign and rule with Him for a 1,000 years! I hope I explained it for you. I actually did a whole series on this on youtube with explanations and pics. Amen. |
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Post by douwant2go2heaven on Mar 19, 2018 0:15:26 GMT -6
witness1God said that 1/4th of the worlds population will die from the cloudy day judgment. The prophets speak ad nauseam, in a good way, about the event, Praise the LORD! Revelation 6 tells us the exact figure of how many will die when the temple in heaven is opened. And 1/4th of the world will perish. So not everybody is going to die when the greatest earthquake in human history occurs and the hailstones and coals of fire fall. But according to God every living thing will shake at His presence as Ezekiel 38 tells us. We have to remember that this is God Himself coming! Just like 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 tells us. The LORD himself is going to descend from heaven! Just like He descended upon Mount Sinai and the whole mountain quaked violently! Only this time it will be the whole earth! This is God coming! This is the ALMIGHTY coming! Psalm 18 tells us what happens on this day! Ezekiel 38 tells us what happens on this day! The 5 scriptures I referenced in the previous post out of Revelation tells us what happens on this day, plus many more that I haven't even touched on! God is going to come riding on the clouds of heaven and the idols of the world will be moved at His presence! This is GOD coming! With hailstones and coals of fire in His clouds and the greatest earthquake to ever shake the planet leveling everything to the ground just like the 6th seal describes! This is GOD coming! GOD in the FLESH! But again the clouds go before Him! The brightness of God is hidden on the cloudy day from those who are left behind! If not they would all be burned up and there would be no time of Jacobs trouble! It's not until the battle of Armageddon when the glory of the LORD is revealed when the 7th angel pours out his bowl into the air and God says "IT IS DONE". Then the glory of God is revealed and everybody on the planet is destroyed by the brightness of His coming and the word of His mouth!
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Post by douwant2go2heaven on Mar 19, 2018 0:23:59 GMT -6
unsealed.boards.net/thread/1368/when-temple-heaven-opened-changes?page=1In the link above on the first page I have 5 simple illustrations that gives a visual on each of the 5 passages of scripture in Revelation that John sees when the temple in heaven is opened. 1. Revelation 4:1-5 2. Revelation 8:2-5 3. Revelation 11:19 4. Revelation 15:5-8 5. Revelation 16:18-21 Remember John is seeing the same event from different perspectives and he records new information regarding the same event as he receives more "revelation". In Revelation 16:18-21 John wraps it all up by giving us the full details of what happens on the cloudy day, all the way down to the weight of the hail stones and how great the earthquake is. I pray that God will guide us all in our understanding and continue to teach us great and mighty things that we don't know. In Jesus name I pray, Amen.
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Post by disciple4life on Mar 19, 2018 4:09:09 GMT -6
I'm confused by this idea that the hailstones weighing 100 pounds each fall on the "The rapture event aka cloudy day aka day of sudden destruction aka the beginning of the day of the LORD". The plague of the hailstones is the 7th plague/7th bowl, which seems to me to be at the end of everything. When this happens, the angel says, "It is done". Not "It begins". "The seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and a loud voice came out of the temple, from the throne, saying, “It is done!” And there were flashes of lightning, rumblings,peals of thunder, and a great earthquake such as there had never been since man was on the earth, so great was that earthquake. The great city was split into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell, and God remembered Babylon the great, to make her drain the cup of the wine of the fury of his wrath. And every island fled away, and no mountains were to be found. And great hailstones, about one hundred pounds each, fell from heaven on people; and they cursed God for the plague of the hail, because the plague was so severe." Rev 16:17-21 Wondering if you could explain to me how you see the 7th bowl happening the day of the rapture, douwant2go2heaven . I struggle with the idea of God killing everyone immediately. I do think many people will have time to come to Him during the tribulation, even though I wish they would do so now! I get that God just rained down judgment in the OT, and that He would be completely just if He were to do so today. But why does the angel fly through the air proclaiming the Gospel and warning people not to take the mark of the beast, if He just kills nearly everyone from the beginning? I am beginning to view the tribulation as God's mercy to give people trials that draw them to Him and not merely wrath. Agree, witness1. I also see a lot of problems with USA being Babylon. The USA is Israel's strongest ally, and this administration - whatever people think of Trump - is clearly and decidedly the most pro-Israel presidency in US History. All his grandchildren are Jewish, and his daughter is Jewish and Judaism is passed through the mother. hmmm. - Also, Trump was elected because of the tens of millions of Pro-Israel Evangelicals. - Also, remember is was the US [Trump Administration ] that was the first in the world to officially declare that Jerusalem is the capital of Isreal AND to move the embassy. - This decision was followed by none other than Czech republic - an atheist country. hmmm. J D Farag believes that the reason the US won't help Israel is NOT because we don't want to - but that tens of millions of Military, including high-ranking military officers, Law enforcement, pilots and firemen, - along with tens of millions of Americans - from nurses to doctors will be raptured. Total anarchy and chaos. Russia and Iran, Turkey, - Alliance of Gog of Magog will see this chaos and take action. All the players of the Ezekiel 38 war are in place.
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Post by douwant2go2heaven on Mar 19, 2018 6:11:13 GMT -6
I'm confused by this idea that the hailstones weighing 100 pounds each fall on the "The rapture event aka cloudy day aka day of sudden destruction aka the beginning of the day of the LORD". The plague of the hailstones is the 7th plague/7th bowl, which seems to me to be at the end of everything. When this happens, the angel says, "It is done". Not "It begins". "The seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and a loud voice came out of the temple, from the throne, saying, “It is done!” And there were flashes of lightning, rumblings,peals of thunder, and a great earthquake such as there had never been since man was on the earth, so great was that earthquake. The great city was split into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell, and God remembered Babylon the great, to make her drain the cup of the wine of the fury of his wrath. And every island fled away, and no mountains were to be found. And great hailstones, about one hundred pounds each, fell from heaven on people; and they cursed God for the plague of the hail, because the plague was so severe." Rev 16:17-21 Wondering if you could explain to me how you see the 7th bowl happening the day of the rapture, douwant2go2heaven . I struggle with the idea of God killing everyone immediately. I do think many people will have time to come to Him during the tribulation, even though I wish they would do so now! I get that God just rained down judgment in the OT, and that He would be completely just if He were to do so today. But why does the angel fly through the air proclaiming the Gospel and warning people not to take the mark of the beast, if He just kills nearly everyone from the beginning? I am beginning to view the tribulation as God's mercy to give people trials that draw them to Him and not merely wrath. Agree, witness1 . I also see a lot of problems with USA being Babylon. The USA is Israel's strongest ally, and this administration - whatever people think of Trump - is clearly and decidedly the most pro-Israel presidency in US History. All his grandchildren are Jewish, and his daughter is Jewish and Judaism is passed through the mother. hmmm. - Also, Trump was elected because of the tens of millions of Pro-Israel Evangelicals. - Also, remember is was the US [Trump Administration ] that was the first in the world to officially declare that Jerusalem is the capital of Isreal AND to move the embassy. - This decision was followed by none other than Czech republic - an atheist country. hmmm. J D Farag believes that the reason the US won't help Israel is NOT because we don't want to - but that tens of millions of Military, including high-ranking military officers, Law enforcement, pilots and firemen, - along with tens of millions of Americans - from nurses to doctors will be raptured. Total anarchy and chaos. Russia and Iran, Turkey, - Alliance of Gog of Magog will see this chaos and take action. All the players of the Ezekiel 38 war are in place.
Blessings disciple4life. To whom much is given of them shall much be required. No other nation, beside Israel, has received as much light as the USA has. And because the USA has received so much light the USA will be judged more harshly. All those things you listed are fine and dandy, but the immorality of the USA has not been forgotten by God. Ancient Israel serves as the model. Israel thought that God would never destroy her because they had the temple. They cried: "the temple of the LORD is here, the temple of the LORD is here" and because of the temple they believed that God would never send judgment. But how misinformed they were. America is no different.
"For behold, I begin to work disaster at the city that is called by my name, and shall you go unpunished? You shall not go unpunished, for I am summoning a sword against all the inhabitants of the earth, declares the LORD of hosts." Jeremiah 25:29 The sword begins to fall on the cloudy day and Babylon the Great is the greatest casualty of the event. Babylon the Great is the nation that rules over all the kings of the earth before the 4th beast kingdom rises. Once the 4th beast kingdom rises there is no more Babylon the Great. That is why the 10 horns have 10 crowns when the beast rises in Revelation 13. Prior to the 4th beast taking over the 10 horns didn't have 10 crowns because Babylon the Great was ruling over ALL the kings of the earth in Revelation 17. Babylon the Great was actually sitting on the beast with 7 heads and 10 horns because she was in charge. But once the 10 kings destroy Babylon the Great by fire in 1 day and in 1 hour they are granted authority to rule with the beast for 1 hour during the tribulation period. There is no other nation on the planet who is currently ruling over all the kings of the earth at the moment than the United States of America. If this is the time of the end than America is the only one who meets EVERY qualification that God has given in His word for who Babylon the Great is. I just posted this in another thread but here it is again: All the nations of the world have gone mad because of Babylon the Great according to God. God says that all nations of the world have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, all the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and all the merchants of the earth have grown rich from the power of her luxurious living. The financial markets of the world are located right in New York! The whole world comes to meet right in New York at the UN. Not Rome Not the vatican Not Mecca or any other place people say is Babylon the Great. Babylon the Great can be no other nation but America. No one else fits the bill. The world moves to the beat of America's drum. Everything that the world does and gets its influence from is centered on American culture. Fashion is dominated by American culture Music is dominated by American culture Movies are dominated by American culture The most populous nation on the planet, China, just recently banned Hip-Hop Culture and Tattoos From Television! Hip-hop was started in America! And China is sick of it influencing their youth! time.com/5112061/china-hip-hop-ban-tattoos-television/The perversion that America pumps out is disgusting! America pollutes the world with pornography! The porn industry was birthed in America and continues to "thrive" in producing non-stop content in the San Fernando Valley in California. It is then distributed on the internet and can be seen around the world by anyone with access to it. How much damage has this caused to countless souls? I know when I first got corrupted by pornography when I was about 9 years old I used to watch it on old VHS tapes. Now it's at the fingertips of any person who has access to a cell phone in any part of the world with wifi! The world has gone mad because of Babylons immorality! That is just one example out of numerous others! And God gives a litany of other descriptions of Babylon the Great throughout His word that only America fits such as: 1. Babylon having the best military in the world 2. Babylon having a great space program 3. Babylon dwelling by many waters 4. Babylon being a bread basket 5. Babylon being a land of immigrants and I can go on and on. But just the above qualifications immediately rules out Mecca, Rome, or the Vatican. Each of those 3 all fail on multiple points in meeting the requirements that must be fulfilled in order for them to be Babylon. But not so for the USA. The USA fits every qualification perfectly. And those are just a few out of many more that God has listed in His word. Amen |
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Post by douwant2go2heaven on Mar 19, 2018 6:20:08 GMT -6
The above video is the best presentation i've ever seen on why America is Babylon the Great. If everything is about to happen then it would behoove us to understand the mystery that is Babylon the Great.
The 7th king is in office right now and he only rules for a short time. God wanted us to know that the 7th king is on the scene because he took office when he was 70 years 7 months and 7 days old. He also won the electoral college vote by 77 votes. He was also 700 days old when Israel became a nation again on May 14, 1948.
Donald Trump is the 7th king spoken about in Revelation 17. Once Babylon the Great is destroyed the 8th king takes over. The 8th king is the antichrist. I've done this teaching here:
Amen.
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Post by disciple4life on Mar 19, 2018 7:28:37 GMT -6
The above video is the best presentation i've ever seen on why America is Babylon the Great. If everything is about to happen then it would behoove us to understand the mystery that is Babylon the Great. The 7th king is in office right now and he only rules for a short time. God wanted us to know that the 7th king is on the scene because he took office when he was 70 years 7 months and 7 days old. He also won the electoral college vote by 77 votes. He was also 700 days old when Israel became a nation again on May 14, 1948. Donald Trump is the 7th king spoken about in Revelation 17. Once Babylon the Great is destroyed the 8th king takes over. The 8th king is the antichrist. I've done this teaching here: Amen. You may be correct - and I certainly do see a lot of parallels. I deeply appreciate your study and your attitude and your passion. ;-) It's very inspiring and encouraging. It's not my intention to be combative on this point or to hijack the thread. I've also seen very compelling evidence of why US is not Babylon.
Regardless of who - what country or entity is Babylon the Great - I think that we will be raptured, - before God pours out his wrath and judgement on Babylon. Just like God of Magog. We can see the alliance of Turkey, Iran and Russia, and things are heating up almost weekly, and Damascus is already almost a ruinous heap. It's totally surreal. People can speculate about who pushes the button, or sends the nuclear missile, or launches the attack on Israel or the US, but it won't matter for us really. We will be gone. A Far more likely prospect/ scenario is that Russia falsely reports "an Attack" on one of it's allies - [Syria, Iran, Turkey, NK or Russia] by Israel - which would be false - and then it all starts.
The point of NK trying to attack us with nuclear weapons doesn't hold up. Aside from the fact that their army is literally starving to death, and they've had multiple failed missile accidents, etc, etc. we can intercept any missile they send.
Even if one made it through and hit DC or NY, we could make them a parking lot. The Battle of Gog of Magog is really about Israel, - Russia wants the oil. Iran wants Israel wiped off the earth. I agree America is far from God. But God promised that whoever blesses Israel, He will Bless, and whoever curses Israel - He will curse. God will not destroy the tens of millions of Evangelicals who love and support Israel. After the Harpazo - All bets are off. -- Think about it friends - millions of Jews are in the US. When the rapture comes - these will be part of the 144,000 Jewish missionaries. The scales will be lifted off their eyes.
It also underscores my belief that - this specifically is why Paul said - "The Feasts are a shadow of things to come" They are "Moadim - Appointed Times." What other way to provoke the Jews to jealousy than for Messiah to come on their feast - "the ones who were supposed to know the signs" - and to take a Gentile Bride. Wow. JUST WOW.
With all my heart - every part of my being - I want it to be Passover, but I don't see the things falling into place in two weeks- and no other feast has near the parallels as Feast of Trumpets.
We could be surprised by some event that is the "water breaking". At that point - no one worries with timing the contractions - we get our bags that have been packed and go to the hospital. Now we see through a glass dimly, and I think that God in his wisdom has kept things hidden/ unsolved until "his moadim- his appointed time."
Maranatha. Disciple4life.
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Post by douwant2go2heaven on Mar 19, 2018 8:42:33 GMT -6
Thank you douwant2go2heaven. Your post had a lot of good information to think about. Here's my 2 cents. We were warned by the solar eclipse on 8-21-17. (To whom much is given, much is required.) The U.S. is hit with nukes from the North (over the north pole) sent by the Lord. Many in the U.S. are destroyed, but many are left. The children of Israel and Judah are to return to Israel. Jeremiah also says many will go back to their own country (the immigration problem solved). It will be hell on earth for the U.S. from then on. It will be invaded by foreigners--Chinese, Russians and many others. The traitors in this country have let many of them in just waiting for the day. They also have the concentration camps ready to go. Death, destruction, famine, and pestilence will reign. There will be many tribulation saints martyred. Revelation 18:2 says Babylon the Great is fallen, is fallen. To me, it means twice. The second eclipse on April 8, 2024, is the other warning. This is the final destruction of the U.S. or what's left of it. One more thought--Isaiah 17, is Damascus (imminent in my opinion). I've been taught by J.R. Church and Southwest Radio Church and others that Isaiah 18 is the U.S. Isaiah 18:5 says: For afore the harvest when the bud is perfect, and the sour grape is ripening in the flower, He shall cut off the sprigs with pruning hooks and take away and cut down the branches. I think the grape harvest in California is towards the end of August/September. July seems about right to me--Mars brightest and the Lunar eclipse on July 27, 2018. Like I said--just my 2 cents. Amen people get ready. The great American solar eclipse was the last warning given by God for America as a whole to repent. It was the sign of the prophet Jonah. The biblical model found in Jonah had to be duplicated if judgment was to be averted. From the president on down every citizen has to repent and call out to God just like Nineveh! It’s all or nothing with God. America failed to repent and once the 40 day warning was up and America showed no signs of repentance the deadliest shooting in American history occurred in “Sin City”. It was a shadow of what will happen when the ultimate destruction comes. Instead of bullets raining down at harvest time, nukes, hail stones and coals of fire will rain down when the harvest comes and it is time to thresh Babylon the Great. Amen. ”This is what the LORD of Heaven's Armies, the God of Israel, says: "Babylon is like wheat on a threshing floor, about to be trampled. In just a little while her harvest will begin." Jeremiah 51:33 |
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